Logic on a dual 1ghz processor machine.

I have a quicksilver dual 1ghz processor machine with 1.5gig ram. The minimum requirement for Logic is a single 1.25ghz processor. It would "seem" like a dual 1ghz processor board would trumph a single 1.25ghz processor. I went to the local Apple store and asked several "genious" and software reps if I could run logic on my machine and the best I could get was "ummmmmm, good question...."
Does anyone know if I can run it? Apple doesn't - and if you buy the software and it doesn't work, you can't return it.

I was using a G4 MDD 1 ghz dual when I first upgraded to LP8. it did work but it was much slower and problematic than LP7. I found a good deal on a G5 on ebay and I am very glad I went that way. You will get a warning message when you instal Logic Studio, but it will work
Don

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Ouch, I was hoping it wouldn't be one of those.
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Before Replacing the Processor
Important:
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slot 5.
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part number 661-3654).
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PS verfication:
1. Power Mac G4 (QuickSilver/QuickSilver 2002) (see Figure 3): Connect the black lead of the volt meter to pin 11 of the 22pin power supply connector. Connect the red lead of the volt meter to pin 22 of the power supply connector. The volt meter should measure approximately +25V. If you do not get a reading of +25V, re-check the volt meter connections and measure the voltage again. If voltage is still not present, replace the power supply; otherwise, go to the next step. If you do measure +25V on pin 22, the power supply is likely OK. Go to the next step for further verification.
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The QS didn't like PC100 because it has a 133mhz system bus. You can use PC133 in a machine with a 100mhz bus, but not conversely.
The max RAM is still three 512MB modules for a total of 1.5GB. That model isn;t one that can exceed the original specs.
2) Is ‘generic’ ram a complete no-no for these machines?
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You should probably call the seller and ask for someone who knows Mac RAM. In addition to being unbuffered and non-parity, it needs to be low-density.
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0x009f67d0 JavaThread "Low Memory Detector" daemon [_thread_blocked, id=1796]
0x009f5b20 JavaThread "CompilerThread1" daemon [_thread_blocked, id=1072]
0x009f4a00 JavaThread "CompilerThread0" daemon [_thread_blocked, id=2464]
0x009f3910 JavaThread "AdapterThread" daemon [_thread_blocked, id=2588]
0x009f27d0 JavaThread "Signal Dispatcher" daemon [_thread_blocked, id=3568]
0x009f1b20 JavaThread "Finalizer" daemon [_thread_blocked, id=2592]
0x009f0880 JavaThread "Reference Handler" daemon [_thread_blocked, id=2688]
0x009e24e0 JavaThread "main" [_thread_blocked, id=2712]
Other Threads:
0x009efa40 VMThread [id=2692]
0x009f72e0 WatcherThread [id=3824]
VM state:not at safepoint (normal execution)
VM Mutex/Monitor currently owned by a thread: None
Heap
PSYoungGen total 27840K, used 1576K [0x3fb90000, 0x41d00000, 0x46d50000)
eden space 23744K, 6% used [0x3fb90000,0x3fd1a1b8,0x412c0000)
from space 4096K, 0% used [0x41780000,0x41780000,0x41b80000)
to space 4864K, 0% used [0x412c0000,0x412c0000,0x41780000)
PSOldGen total 15104K, used 14054K [0x06d50000, 0x07c10000, 0x3fb90000)
object space 15104K, 93% used [0x06d50000,0x07b09ba8,0x07c10000)
PSPermGen total 23296K, used 20545K [0x02d50000, 0x04410000, 0x06d50000)
object space 23296K, 88% used [0x02d50000,0x041607b0,0x04410000)
Dynamic libraries:
0x00400000 - 0x00417000      C:\Program Files\Siemens\HiPath Wireless Manager\lib\JavaService.exe
0x7c800000 - 0x7c8c0000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntdll.dll
0x77e40000 - 0x77f42000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\kernel32.dll
0x77f50000 - 0x77fec000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\ADVAPI32.dll
0x77c50000 - 0x77cef000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\RPCRT4.dll
0x6d840000 - 0x6dbcb000      C:\PROGRA~1\Siemens\HIPATH~1\langley\jre\bin\server\jvm.dll
0x77380000 - 0x77412000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\USER32.dll
0x77c00000 - 0x77c48000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\GDI32.dll
0x76aa0000 - 0x76acd000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\WINMM.dll
0x77ba0000 - 0x77bfa000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSVCRT.dll
0x71bc0000 - 0x71bc8000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\rdpsnd.dll
0x771f0000 - 0x77201000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\WINSTA.dll
0x71c40000 - 0x71c98000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\NETAPI32.dll
0x76b70000 - 0x76b7b000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\PSAPI.DLL
0x6d2f0000 - 0x6d2f8000      C:\PROGRA~1\Siemens\HIPATH~1\langley\jre\bin\hpi.dll
0x6d680000 - 0x6d68c000      C:\PROGRA~1\Siemens\HIPATH~1\langley\jre\bin\verify.dll
0x6d370000 - 0x6d38d000      C:\PROGRA~1\Siemens\HIPATH~1\langley\jre\bin\java.dll
0x6d6a0000 - 0x6d6af000      C:\PROGRA~1\Siemens\HIPATH~1\langley\jre\bin\zip.dll
0x6d530000 - 0x6d543000      C:\Program Files\Siemens\HiPath Wireless Manager\langley\jre\bin\net.dll
0x71c00000 - 0x71c17000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\WS2_32.dll
0x71bf0000 - 0x71bf8000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\WS2HELP.dll
0x71b20000 - 0x71b61000      C:\WINDOWS\System32\mswsock.dll
0x76ed0000 - 0x76ef9000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\DNSAPI.dll
0x76f70000 - 0x76f77000      C:\WINDOWS\System32\winrnr.dll
0x76f10000 - 0x76f3e000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\WLDAP32.dll
0x76f80000 - 0x76f85000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\rasadhlp.dll
0x68000000 - 0x6802f000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\rsaenh.dll
0x76920000 - 0x769e4000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\USERENV.dll
0x5f270000 - 0x5f2c9000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\hnetcfg.dll
0x71ae0000 - 0x71ae8000      C:\WINDOWS\System32\wshtcpip.dll
0x6d070000 - 0x6d1d7000      C:\Program Files\Siemens\HiPath Wireless Manager\langley\jre\bin\awt.dll
0x73070000 - 0x73097000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\WINSPOOL.DRV
0x76290000 - 0x762ad000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\IMM32.dll
0x77670000 - 0x777a4000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\ole32.dll
0x4d480000 - 0x4d5e5000      C:\Program Files\Siemens\HiPath Wireless Manager\lib\clcapi.dll
0x780c0000 - 0x78121000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSVCP60.dll
0x766d0000 - 0x766d9000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\SHFOLDER.dll
0x77d00000 - 0x77d8c000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\OLEAUT32.dll
0x77da0000 - 0x77df2000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\SHLWAPI.dll
0x76cf0000 - 0x76d0a000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\iphlpapi.dll
0x77420000 - 0x77523000      C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.3790.1830_x-ww_7AE38CCF\comctl32.dll
0x6d660000 - 0x6d666000      C:\Program Files\Siemens\HiPath Wireless Manager\langley\jre\bin\rmi.dll
0x49510000 - 0x49524000      C:\Program Files\Siemens\HiPath Wireless Manager\lib\ws2ping.dll
0x71bb0000 - 0x71bb9000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\WSOCK32.dll
0x76cd0000 - 0x76ce9000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\MPRAPI.dll
0x76df0000 - 0x76e23000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\ACTIVEDS.dll
0x76dc0000 - 0x76de7000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\adsldpc.dll
0x76b80000 - 0x76bae000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\credui.dll
0x7c8d0000 - 0x7d0d3000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\SHELL32.dll
0x76a80000 - 0x76a98000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\ATL.DLL
0x76e30000 - 0x76e3c000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\rtutils.dll
0x5ccf0000 - 0x5ccff000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\SAMLIB.dll
0x770e0000 - 0x771ea000      C:\WINDOWS\system32\SETUPAPI.dll
VM Arguments:
jvm_args: -Xmx1024m -Dcatalina.home=.\\apache\\tomcat -Dmysql.home=.\\mysqldb -Dwebserver.rootdir=.\\apache -Djava.library.path=.\\lib -Dresource_check=9090,8009,8005 -Djava.rmi.server.codebase="http://localhost:9090/classes/ http://localhost:9090/classes/ManagementServer.jar http://localhost:9090/classes/AdventNetSnmp.jar http://localhost:9090/classes/SNMPDebugger.jar http://localhost:9090/classes/AdventNetARUtils.jar http://localhost:9090/classes/AdventNetSAS.jar http://localhost:9090/classes/jta.jar http://localhost:9090/classes/mgmt_service.jar" exit
java_command: <unknown>
Environment Variables:
PATH=C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem
USERNAME=Administrator
OS=Windows_NT
PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER=x86 Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 3, GenuineIntel
--------------- S Y S T E M ---------------
OS: Windows Server 2003 family Build 3790 Service Pack 1
CPU:total 4 family 15, cmov, cx8, fxsr, mmx, sse, sse2, ht
Memory: 4k page, physical 2097151k(2097151k free), swap 4194303k(4194303k free)
vm_info: Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (1.5.0_03-b07) for windows-x86, built on Apr 13 2005 01:49:52 by "java_re" with MS VC++ 6.0
Every crash the Java and native frame trace usually report something different, but it is always the File related operation that causes the crash. Ok, now make it even more bizzar I have another Java standalone application running on this machine that also access files has no problem, so just wondering if anyone else here had the same problem before. Oh, almost forgot the same program runs fine on a single processor machine.
Thanks a lot in advance.

I am encountering similar crash when the java.io.WinNTFileSystem.list - java.io.File.list() is called. Have you found any solution?
Env:
Java Version 1.4.2_10 (48.0)
Java Vendor Sun Microsystems Inc.
Stack: [0x08640000,0x08740000), sp=0x0873f61c, free space=1021k
Native frames: (J=compiled Java code, j=interpreted, Vv=VM code, C=native code)
C [ntdll.dll+0x70d4]
C [kernel32.dll+0x8ec3]
C [java.dll+0x81ef]
J java.io.WinNTFileSystem.list(Ljava/io/File;)[Ljava/lang/String;
J com.wm.g11n.util.ResDirMonitor$ResDirMonitorTask.checkAllFiles(Ljava/io/File;)J
v ~RuntimeStub::alignment_frame_return Runtime1 stub
j com.wm.g11n.util.ResDirMonitor$ResDirMonitorTask.run()V+34
J java.util.TimerThread.mainLoop()V
v ~RuntimeStub::osr_frame_return Runtime1 stub
j java.util.TimerThread.run()V+1
v ~StubRoutines::call_stub
V [jvm.dll+0x71d74]
V [jvm.dll+0xabc2f]
V [jvm.dll+0x71c81]
V [jvm.dll+0x7197d]
V [jvm.dll+0x719b6]
V [jvm.dll+0x89962]
V [jvm.dll+0xcfc69]
V [jvm.dll+0xcfc37]
C [MSVCRT.dll+0x291ed]
C [kernel32.dll+0xa990]
Java frames: (J=compiled Java code, j=interpreted, Vv=VM code)
J java.io.WinNTFileSystem.list(Ljava/io/File;)[Ljava/lang/String;
J com.wm.g11n.util.ResDirMonitor$ResDirMonitorTask.checkAllFiles(Ljava/io/File;)J
v ~RuntimeStub::alignment_frame_return Runtime1 stub
j com.wm.g11n.util.ResDirMonitor$ResDirMonitorTask.run()V+34
J java.util.TimerThread.mainLoop()V
v ~RuntimeStub::osr_frame_return Runt

Labview 7.1 and Dual Core Processors

Hi,
I was wondering if anyone has encountered any problems using Labview
7.1 and the newer dual-core processors. I have a Dell Dimension DXPO51,
2.8 GHz Pentium D with 1 GB ram. There is NO virus software or any
other non-essential programs running in the background. The computer is
totally dedicated to controlling a machine.
Other NI boards installed: PCI-6221 for analog inputs, PCI-6602 for
reading encoders, PCI-7352 Motion Control board to control 2 motors.
The problem:
Periodically when I start my program, it locks up and I get the "Tell
Microsoft about this problem..." screen. After it exits out of Labview
and I restart, the Run arrow is not broken but the program will not run
until I make a change on the block diagram. Then I can run again.
Doesn't happen all the time, doesn't happen after running after a
certain amount of time, doesn't happen after a particular change is
made (i.e. adding case statements, adding an event, etc.). In other
words, totally random.
I have tried totally uninstalling ALL National Instruments software,
including cleaning the registry, and re-installing everything. Didn't
help.
The machine will be shipping with the executable file only but I'm still leary of problems arising due to this issue.
Any help or suggestions of things to try would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Teri

Hi Teri,
I've seen scattered reports of users having trouble with dual-processor
machines with earlier versions of LabVIEW, though I'm not aware of
verified solutions in those cases. The dual-processor operation
should be completely transparent to LabVIEW, although I know XP has had
some difficulties in providing the abstraction correctly. A
workaround that has been successful in the past is to set the processor
affinity for LabVIEW to a single processor. This should eliminate
the dual-processor nature of the system from consideration. If
the problem still recurs after that, then the issue stems from another
source and we can investigate further. Does it show this behavior
with any program (or just by opening the LabVIEW environment)?
How often does this occur (10%, 50% of the time)?
Cheers,
Matt Pollock
National Instruments

Jdeveloper dual core processor performance problem

I have a dual core 2.4 ghz processor and 2 gig of ram and Im running Jdevloper 9.0.5.2 and my performace is terrible. Other developers in the company have non-dual core processors and they can start up in debug mode using the Jdeveloper embedded oc4j our application in 10 seconds where it takes me 4 min!!!!! It is a struts,ejb web application. Is there anything I can do to help in debug mode??? cheers.
Murray

Hi Bernard,
Which version of McAfee are you using?
On my (personal) laptop, I'm using McAfee VirusScan 9.0.10. I don't frequently run JDeveloper on this laptop, but when I do, it's not experiencing signficant startup delays (it's a very low power machine: PIII 650 512Mb)
McAfee VirusScan seems to have very few configuration options (noticably different from Norton, which I use on my corporate desktop machine). I specifically remember changing the "File Types to Scan" option to "Program files and documents only". You can get to this by right clicking the "M" notification area icon, VirusScan->Options menu, Advanced button on the ActiveShield page.
In Norton, I think I have it configured so that it only scans files on write rather than on read. I also exclude directories which contain jdeveloper installs or other large Java apps (although scanning only on write elliminates most of the performance problems anyway and still leaves your system reasonably secure).
The easiest way to convince your MIS dept that the virus checker is the source of your problems might be if you ask them to allow you to turn it off in order to test the difference it makes to performance. It's a reasonable request to make if you're trying to elliminate possible causes for the slowdown (from the description you gave, it does sound like the AV upgrade is the first place I'd start looking).
If the virus checker is the source of your problems, you'll probably be seeing massive slowness in most large Java applications that have a large number of JARs on their classpath.
Thanks,
Brian

Toshiba Sattelitte L550D, AMD dual core processor M520, Firefox 3.6 works fine; any later version produces only server not fond for any URL; any one have a fix?

Forgot to mention op system is Windows 7 64 bit; 4 gig memory and a 320 gig 5400 rpm (slow) SATA drive. Have tried Pale Moon with the same result although its site shows the AMD Turion II dual core processor as supported

Yes, the question was poster from my desktop machine which is set to dual boot both windows 7 and Xp. I regularly run spybot scans but I'll try all the others you mentioned.
Thanks

Noob in Need of Help: Where can I find a 1Ghz Processor?

Hi, I'm Elaine, I was given a 450Mhz, G4 Gigabit ethernet Tower as payment for some graphics work (yeah, I feel like I got cheated, but that's just me).
Anyhoo, I'm rather fond of mac computers, but I'm finding to do the work I do I need to basically upgrade the processor, RAM, and hard drive and of course, add a TON of software (I'm a writer-filmmaker-animator-graphic novel creator-self publisher).
From what I can figure out from reading the posts here, I could make do with a 1Ghz processor and about 2Gb SDRAM and a 160Gb hard drive. Most of the hardware I can find on ebay, except for the processor.
Someone posted something about a "sonnet" processor, but I couldn't find anything like that.
Could someone PLEASE tell me where I can find an AFFORDABLE processor?
Can I use an AMD processor? Newegg seems to have one that's a single core selling for $33.00 if that's to be believed.
Well, I won't keep prattling at you, and will simply thank you all in advance for your assistance.
Namarie,
E.

Seeing you were given this Mac for payment, and seeing that you're new to Macs, you need to ask yourself if you have the skills needed to do these upgrades as well as whether you want to plunk down a sizeable amount of cash to upgrade a 10 year old Mac that will never perform as well as either a newer model or brand new Mac.
If this is a 450 MHz Gigabit Ethernet model it is probably a dual CPU 450 model. I do not think you can put a single CPU upgrade into a dual processor Mac. I believe you need to stick witwh dual processor CPU upgrades.
AND you cannot use just any CPU chip that would be available for Window PCs.
The CPUs in older Macs are PowerPC CPU processors made by Freescale (formerly Motorola).
Dual processor upgrades will not be cheap!
A company called Other World Computing sells CPU upgrade, but none are very cheap.
http://eshop.macsales.com/MyOWC/Upgrades.cfm?sort=pop&model=165&type=Processor&T I=5206&shoupgrds=Show+Upgrades
Based on what you listed that you would like to do with a Mac, the Mac you were given as payment is really not up to the challenges you want to put this Mac through.
It's just going to get too costly.
The Mac you've been given is just not worth plunking that kind of money into.
I would either try and sell it or recycle it and look at new or newer model Macs with more computing horsepower.
If a new Intel Mac tower or iMac is too expensive for you, my advice would be to give a serious look at the high end Mac Mini. Price to performance ratio is hard to beat and will easily do everything you want to do on a Mac.
MHO

G4 Dual 1GHz MDD slows to creep then freezes

I have an employee running MacOS X 10.4.7 on a G4 Dual 1GHz MDD with 2GB RAM. This employee is having problems with the system slowing to an absolute crawl, where there are delays even in mouse movement. The system then finally locks up, and the only way to restart it is manually. Over the past couple of weeks, I have done a clean install, replaced the hard drive (because the original one completely died), and replaced all of the RAM. I have run disk and permission repairs multiple times, and have wiped out the cache multiple times.
The only thing I see left to replace is the video card. Could this be the culprit, or do I need to look at replacing the system with a new Mac?

The only background applications that have been installed are Retrospect Backup Client, and FontAgent Pro, both of which are installed on every other Mac at the office.
I have not run memtest or any other memory tester, however, the fact that I can take a complete set of RAM out of an identical machine that is stable, put it in this one, and have it still crashing should cancel RAM out as the cause of the problem.
I replaced the hard drive with a 250GB Western Digital. It is the only hard drive, so their should not be any IO conflicts between it and other drives. I have used FSCK, Disk Utility, and Drive Genius to check the drive and they all say it is good.
There are no 3rd party PCI cards installed in this system.
This Mac is configured just like all the other identical ones in the office. In fact, due to just having a clean install performed, it is even cleaner than the others.
I have reset the PRAM and NVRAM. Sometimes after resetting these, the system locks up before the gray apple even appears, requiring me to run FSCK. I have not reset the PMU yet.
Is it possible it is a bad video card? I know an inexpensive card can be obtained for testing, but my main concern is the time it will take to get it in. I don't want to waste that time if it is obvious the video card is not the answer.

Logic on a dual 1ghz processor machine.

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