Logic Pro 7 to Logic Studio 8 transition good or bad?

Hi all,
Just wondering what you have experienced going from Logic Pro 7 to Logic Studio 8?. I'm asking as I just bought the upgrade to Logic Studio and want to install it. I'm currently right in the middle of making an album in Logic Pro 7 and can't afford to lose anything. Is there anything I should be aware of? I haven't got any 3rd party plug in's running accept my Melotron plug in 'M'Tron'. Everything else including all FX's, I'm using Logic's built in plug in's. Also, I'm running Pro at full power with some songs and it still struggles at times. I'm using a Power Mac G5 dual 1.8ghz for the record. It's pre-Pentium dual core! Just worried about how well Studio 8 will run on my machine compared to Pro 7? Will Studio 8 require a lot more CPU usage?
Many thanks,
Nick.

+I'm currently right in the middle of making an album in Logic Pro 7 and can't afford to lose anything. Is there anything I should be aware of?+
Yes, me too. But after a week of testing L8, I've taken the plunge as I already like it better, although I had planned to complete all existing projects in LP7 first.
1) Make extensive backups of everything, including all project assets, IRs, samples etc. which should all be in your existing project folders, before you install L8.
2) Open copies of your projects and save them immediately in L8. As you probably know, installing L8 leaves LP7 untouched, so you can always go back if disaster strikes. I did some reconfiguring of stuff (not that you have to) such as changing old bus objects to auxes etc. just to make it more L8-like, reworking screensets etc.
+I'm running Pro at full power with some songs and it still struggles at times. I'm using a Power Mac G5 dual 1.8ghz for the record....Just worried about how well Studio 8 will run on my machine compared to Pro 7? Will Studio 8 require a lot more CPU usage?+
Actually, I've found that in general projects run more smoothly. I've had some weighty projects that were puffing a bit in LP7 which run much better in L8. Other threads in this forum contradict this, so either I'm lucky or because I keep my production machine very clean I didn't get any problems.
Good luck.

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Logic unfortunately does not support any VST's by themselves. Rather they support AU's (Audio Units). So you cannot plug Halion 2 into Logic easily.
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HT1444 How do I upgrade my Logic Pro to Logic Pro X ?

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So is it ok for me to have Logic Express installed, too?? This way, I dont need to plug in the "node key" (or whatever it's called).
I know i can buy a USB hub, but i cant afford one right now.
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Is there a difference between Logic Pro and Logic Pro X?

Maybe this is a stupid question, but is there a difference between Logic Pro and Logic Pro X?
Already thx!

Hi
Short answer: No
Longer answer:
Logic Pro X is the latest release version of the DAw known as "Logic Pro". Previous versions were: Logic Pro 9, Logic Pro 8 etc.
There was also a "Logic Express" (no longer available) which, though similar to Logic Pro, was missing a few features of Logic Pro in it's later versions)
This might add more details:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic_Pro
CCT
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I see that I have both Logic Pro and Logic Pro X on my Macbook Pro. Will deleting Logic Pro create issues when using Logic Pro X? If not, how do you delete it without messing up the X version? Thanks.

The actual app, in your Applications folder is tiny. You can simply put it into the trash and empty the trash. It will have no affect on the use of Logic X.
Similarly, because it is so small, there's no real harm in keeping the Logic 9 app in place in case you ever need to use it.

MBP as centerpiece of Logic Pro 7 home studio?

Hello All.
I am VERY close to placing an order for my first Mac and right now its neck and neck between the MacBook Pro and the 20-inch Intel iMac.
My main purpose for the Mac is to be a dedicated computer for serious hobbyist music creation with Logic Pro 7, Garageband & various plugins, web surfing, management of an iTunes Library over 12000 songs and occasional iLife usage. I currently use Cubase, Reason and various VST's on my PC. My songs consist mainly of sofwtare instruments, a few breakbeat loops or beats that I create myself. Eventually, I will add those programs and VST's to the Mac when the universal binary versions of them come out.
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1) Anyway, have any of you ever used a laptop (like the PowerBook G4, for example) as the centerpiece of your home studio? How did that work out? Is that something that you'd recommend or would I be better off with an iMac desktop?
2) Also, should I be concerned with the heat that laptops like the MBP and PowerBowk put out? I was gonna have the 100GB 7200RPM drive installed in the MBP so I wonder if drive noise could be a factor here as well?
3) Lastly and on a side note, regardless of whether or not I get the MBP or the iMac, I'd be using my Edirol PCR-50 MIDI USB Keyboard Controller to control the software instruments and plug-ins. If I simply plugged this into the computer via USB, would I experience any latency issues with Core Audio/Core MIDI of OS X? Or is a MIDI absolutely necessary? Does OS X allow you change the latency settings?
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Hello
i used to have a Soundcraft 24/8/2 mixboard, a MPC 2000XL, an EMU e6400, a MicroModular, a Nord Lead, three DBX266XL compressors, a TC M-One, a Lexicon MPX100, a Sherman Filterbank ...
i've sold everything except the nordlead and bought a powerbook G4 1.5 ghz with Logic Express 7.
i've never been as productive as now. I used to be forced to compose in front of the same stupid wall. now i can make music anywhere. i bought some good headphones, plug them directly to the powerbook soundcard and make music most of the time on the sofa next to my girlfriend while she watches tv.
i have a super small usb midi keyboard (m-audio o2) which i plug when i need to enter notes. sometimes i even enter notes using the CapsLock keyboard integrated in logic so i don't even need my usb keyboard.
when i've finished my track i go to my office and plug my firewire soundcard (Echo Audiofire 8, lots of inputs / outputs, useful to plug guitar / bass / mic and eventually a friend's computer) and check the mix on my monitors.
i'll never go back to a desktop computer again. i'm not a pro working for any kind of business, i'm just a musician making my demo. my mixes sounds as good as or better than when i had all this audio hardware.
i have two sessions in os X, one internet, one audio. i surf the web heavily, no virus, no ********. sometimes i even load safari while boucing a track in logic, professionals will tell you it's baaaaaaad, i don't care.
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1) i recommend having a laptop and good headphones (100$ minimum) if you're just making music for pleasure. pro need big G5, we don't.
2) i don't have problem with heat. when it's on my thigs it can get very hot which is not recommended. you must let the heat get out.but i didn't have any problem
3) no midi latency problem at all, wether it is pure midi or usb.
Lastly : i think the MacBook Pro is too expensive. a powerbook G4 is too old for big sessions. wait for the MacBook (the iBook successor), which is supposed to be intel 1.67 ghz solo core 13"3 inch screen, a little more than 1000$, and may be released on April 1st (apple aniversary)
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(be careful there are near to 0 plugins out on intel macs yet be sure you will only use logic plugins)
cheers
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Logic Pro Home based studio on 10K budget

Continuation of discusson from:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=436969&tstart=15
I will sumarize in the next message.

I think anyone would love to have this setup, but I can't resist a few comments:
I think an appropriate setup, without buying any
truly cheap stuff, would be more like $6000.
Example:
- Mac mini CoreDuo, 2G RAM, keyboard, mouse $1160
- 20" Dell Monitor $500
- external hard drive $200
- Focusrite Saffire $400
- monitors $900 (lots of good choices)
- Rode NTK $500
- cables, etc $200
- Logic Pro $900
- MIDI keyboard $500 (Fatar)
- some more software, samples $900
For the price of a Mini, 2G of RAM, and a $500 monitor, you can get a 17" iMac with 2G of RAM. (I went to the store with my heart set on a mini and walked out with the iMac for this reason.)
There's no need for an external hard drive right off the bat. They are only getting cheaper and bigger while you wait.
Few people need more than two simultaneous inputs, and fewer still need more than two outputs. For $400, the Saffire looks like a pretty awesome deal. I think I'd feel a little cramped with this setup though. I'm thinking some day you may want to have a buddy or two over with his guitar for a little jam; you'd be wishing you had some more mics. For just a little more you can get a Mackie Onyx 1220 with four mic pres and four stereo inputs, all of them running simultaneously.
I would also recommend getting a dynamic (an SM58 is as good as any) and a pair of good cheap condensers for X-Y recording, in addition to your main mic. One really expensive mic isn't as good as four or five decent ones.
(Don't forget that your mac will have a pair of 24/192 input, and the mini also has a S/PDIF input.)
If you are going to spend money for a nice keyboard controller, forget buying a controller. I would put the extra money into a cheap digital piano like a Roland RD-300 or a Yamaha P-series. Dedicated MIDI controllers have poor keyboard actions, and the RD will absolutely blow away the audio quality of the piano in EXS24 while using zero of your CPU. Plus, you have a real zero-latency piano in your studio for when you just want to play.
I think 1200 for monitors as budhalite suggested is a little over the top, but I'll admit that I am saving up for a pair of HR824's right now. I don't like the events as much.
And finally, something I discovered when I set up my first studio, almost nobody ever correctly estimates how much they need to spend on wire. In a small pro studio or a moderately large home studio, wire and patchbays can add up to more than the computer.
When you get your dream studio set up, you will find that all sorts of things you never thought of will become weakest links. Soundproofing, room size, computer fan noise, the guy nextdoor with the CB hobby. There will always be something to spend that next pension check on.

Logic Pro Based recording studio

Hi all, I am intending on building a smallish recording studio around Logic Pro - I need your experience and expertise!
My imagined setup is based on a hefty Mac Pro, using Apogee Symphony Cards as Audio inputs. I considered using Motu or M-Audio..any thoughts?
My big Questions:
1. Mixing Desk/Control Surface
Firstly do I need a separate Mixing desk? or will a digital control surface do? Can all the audio go straight to the Mac through the interface? or does it need to go through a desk for monitoring etc?
2. Control Surface
I would very much like to find a decent control surface of the digidesign C24/C20 style, but I don't seem to be able to find anything with more than 8 channel strips that says its compatible with Logic Pro - these all seem targeted at the prosumer/home user category of artist - Any thoughts?
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No software program is truly bug-free. The issue with Logic and the most current OS (10.5.2) is that these bugs are not being addressed... at all. Logic 8 has been around for 8 months or so and so far there have been no major updates to improve stability, core audio issues on the OS, etc.
Basically Logic is $500 because there is no support - you're buying only software.
Avid, Ableton, Cakewalk and the like are primarily software companies and they thrive on constantly updating their apps. Apple Inc, is not a software company. So you proceed at your own risk when it comes to Apple "solutions".
And keep in mind there is no such thing as a "solution"! Only tools, craftsmanship and love of music.
Your other question I believe about an external mixer, there are two simple descriptions: ITB & OTB.
In the box & Out of the box, respectively. Of course these two worlds overlap and arguably, one is not better than the other. I'd suggest looking for those terms on other forums. Tapeop.com, gearslutz.com, soundonsound.com, there are hundreds, I'm sure.
One last thing and it's a bit of a gripe: But Apple has also taken the liberty to arbitrarily remove certain features and/or consolidate features that were special components to Emagic's program... many of these features will be missed, ie, syncing Logic to an external MIDI clock. R.I.P. external MIDI clock...
Have fun.

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You dont have to do anything.. Just install LPX, download all it's additional content and any loops you had previously installed with LP9 will be included in LPX's loop browser without any dupes.... In other words everything is merged together.. and so by uninstalling LP9 you would actually save very little space as the LP9 app is relatively small in size.
Note: LP9 and LPX can happily coexist on the same system.... and it's actually wise to not uninstall... but keep it that way as any older projects that use 32bit AU plugins will not import into LPX as LPX is unable to utilize such plugins...
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What would I gain by going to Logic Pro or Logic Express.

I am a current power user of Garage Band (funny huh?) and I have figured out ways around a lot of things. Most my material are samples with vocals. I am doing dance music and want to step up. But will I really be gaining anything. I do not use midi. I just want the ability to timestrech vocals to fit beats and that sort of thing. Should I go to logic express or jump right into logic pro?
What can pro do that express cannot?
thanks, technoreid

You can find a brief feature comparison on Logic Express' page. This will give you an overview of what Express can and cannot do. If all you are doing is time stretching audio to fit already made beats, then Express may be what you need. You can do some beat composing with Express, but you won't have plug-ins such as Ultrabeat. If you can get by with the EXS-P and perhaps the Remix Tools Jam Pack, you can come up with some pretty good stuff in Express.
And like Stash put it: if you need more, you can always upgrade.
jord

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Based on the replies in the Logic Express forums, it looks like I'll just have to suck it up until Logic 10 comes out.
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I'll answer a couple of these and let others chime in.
In my opinion... you don't want to use built-in Mac audio output/iMac speakers for anything remotely resembling professional work. You have some pro equipment you need a pro or semi-pro audio interface with multiple ins/outs. You already have a MIDI interface so you're ok there.
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You will have to purchase from the App store.
Read this post to see what is, and what isn't included.
https://discussions.apple.com/message/17113786#17113786
Don't bother downloading anything on the iPad that would be a wasted effort.
Hope you have a fast connection, Logics additional content is many, many gigs of data.
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