Logic Pro 7 with MOTU 828 or Apogee Ensemble??

I've been using Logic with MOTU's 828MKII interface for about 4 years now. Since couple of days go, the 828 keeps freezing. I had to turn unit off and turn it back on and it starts to work again, but freezes again couple seconds later. I've talked to MOTU guys and they told me to switch voltage back and forth and try again. Same thing.
I finally came to 2 option.
1. Send the unit to MOTU and get it fixed and hope to work with it without anymore problem in the future.
2. Get the new MOTU 828MKIII
3. Get Apogee's Ensemble audio interface. (this one is really pricey for me)
What do you guys think?
Should I just get 828MKii fixed or try new gears..?
I'm a starting film/TV composer/producer and beginning to
do quite large projects.
My set up is
-G5 Quad PowerPC with 2.5GB RAM
-250GB main hardrive, 500GB second internal hardrive
-Yamaha HS50M Speaker
-Yamaha S90ES Synthesizer
-Apple Cinema 23inch
-Running Logic Pro 7 with bunch of samples
and plug-ins in my second internal hard drive.
Share your opinions please.
Thanks
Chris

Motu use to make one of the most reliable drivers in industry. If you're happy with it and can get it fixed... so why not stick with it for a while?
On the other hand the new Apogee's software seems to be really solid and Ensemble's converters are much better than MKII.
So get the 828 fixed, stick with it for a while, save some cash, buy the Ensemble, dump the old 828.
Hope that helps

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