Logic Pro 9 CPU Utilization
Hello
I have two major questions about how well Logic Pro 9 utlizes Multi-core CPUs.
1. What is the maximum number of threads/cores that Logic Pro 9 can support. I heard that it was 16 threads, which means that a processor with 8 physical cores is the maximum since Intel's HyperThreading makes them 16 thread/cores. So does anybody know of the max?
2. How well does Logic Pro 9 utilize processors that have more than 4 cores? Does the performance increase greatly with additional cores or is there barely any difference?
Thanks
Hi
It sounds to me like you are considering which new Mac to buy?
YJKimNaDa wrote:
1. What is the maximum number of threads/cores that Logic Pro 9 can support. I heard that it was 16 threads, which means that a processor with 8 physical cores is the maximum since Intel's HyperThreading makes them 16 thread/cores. So does anybody know of the max?
Support for 6/12 core Macs was added in v 9.1.2. I believe that the max number of threads is 16, but I have not checked this on a 12 core MacPro.
YJKimNaDa wrote:
2. How well does Logic Pro 9 utilize processors that have more than 4 cores? Does the performance increase greatly with additional cores or is there barely any difference?
This is not an exact 'science'. Taking into account the way that Logic assigns "channels" to CPU cores, the overall performance will depend on what you need it to do.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3161
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4426
For example, a large (8 Part) multi-timbral instance of Omnisphere could seriously load 1 CPU, leaving the others relatively un-touched. (Here, a faster CPU Core helps).
Running several 'smaller' instances of Omnisphere, the CPU load would be distributed more evenly over the cores. In this sort of situation, more cores would be better.
Ultimately, it comes down to this: if you can afford it, get as many cores as you can, and get the fastest cores that you can. There is a "price point" where the benefits of the additional cost of faster cores/ number of cores becomes too expensive.
hth
CCT
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Please help - CPU trouble (mainly in Logic Pro).
Hi,
I've had my Mac Pro for 3 & 1/2 years. It's a Quad-Core Intel Xeon 2.66 GHz with 12GB RAM and 3 640GB HDs. I know this spec is nowhere near the scale of other people's machines at this point in time, but it doesn't justify the speed mine runs at. I primarily use my Mac for music production, mainly in Logic Pro 9 and Sibelius 7.
Although it generally seems to be running quite slow, my biggest problem is when using Logic. I mainly compose orchestral music, using Eastwest Symphonic Orchestra Gold, Spitfire Albion I (via Kontakt), Ivory Synthogy Grands II and Spectrasonics Omnisphere. For the sake of this thread, I'll use the track I'm working on currently as an example...
I have 40 tracks with separate instances of Play (for Eastwest Gold) and Kontakt (Albion I) running. (I've tried multi-outputs, but the inability to Freeze tracks is rather obstructing.) There are also a few auxilliary tracks with Logic's compressor & Eastwest Spaces running - no more than 8 separate instances. I also have a 14-minute video running. Currently, I don't have many tracks recorded, but as they begin to build up, Logic just can't handle it - and that's running on 512 samples I/O buffer size and a 'Large' Process Buffer Range. What's more, if I load a single instance of Ivory Grands II in, about 1/7th of my CPU bar is consumed simply when it's idle. I hope this covers all bases, but you get the idea...
I've researched so much and tried it all - using Freeze tracks extensively; hardware test; disk utility; clearing my system HD, including moving my sample libraries to my other HDs (my main HD is currently at about 20% capacity); and probably a myriad of other things that I can't think of right now. As you can imagine, I've spent a lot of money on this system, and to be behaving like this after 2 years (this has been an ongoing problem for quite some time...) is extremely frustrating and upsetting.
Any help on the matter would be greatly appreciated — thank you.He, the OP, does not appear to have a 3,1 Early 2008 at all.
Processor upgrades for those are fewer and harder to find and he would already have 8-core.
A copy paste of the system profile, minus serial number, helps.
Three SSDs, one for system, and two on Sonnet Tempo Pro PCIe SSD, would go a long ways.
How To Install and Remove Memory Mac Pro
https://support.apple.com/kb/HT4433
2x2GB FBDIMM DDR2 667MHz @ $30
http://www.amazon.com/BUFFERED-PC2-5300-FB-DIMM-APPLE-Memory/dp/B002ORUUAC/
Komputerbay 8GB (2x 4GB) DDR2 PC2-5300F 667MHz CL5 ECC Fully Buffered FB-DIMM (240 PIN) 8 GB
http://www.amazon.com/Komputerbay-PC2-5300F-Buffered-FB-DIMM-Heatspreaders/dp/B0 05HIWD5U/
eBay (Europe)
http://viewitem.eim.ebay.dk/KOMPUTERBAY-8GB-2X4GB-MEMORY-for-APPLE-MAC-PRO-EARLY -2008-31-DDR2-800MHz/140962093586/item?transId=808969265004
2008: Ideal RAM config 8 DIMMs - offers 17% improvement memory bandwidth performance
667MHz FBDIMMs are cheap, excellent and 4% 'hit' you would never know about.
http://www.barefeats.com/harper5.html
For best performance on Mac Pro, install memory in risers symmetrically
The Mac Pro comes with two memory riser cards, each with four DIMM slots. With a total of eight slots, you can add up to 32 GB of memory.
Note: DIMMs must be installed in pairs of equal size from the same vendor. For instance, you must not have one or three DIMMs on either riser at any time. Additionally, two DIMMs from different vendors should not be combined and used as a pair.
Other configurations of DIMM pairs are still compatible with Final Cut Studio, but may not achieve the same performance levels as when DIMM pairs are installed on both risers evenly.
https://support.apple.com/kb/TS1957
SSD: Samsung 840 128GB
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Series-120GB-internal-MZ-7TD120BW/dp/B009NHAF06/
SSD Maintenance
Icy Dock $15
http://www.amazon.com/2-5-3-5-Ssd-sata-Convert/dp/B002Z2QDNE/
Sonnet Tempo Pro
http://www.sonnettech.com/product/tempossdpro.html
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Sonnet%20Technologies/TSATA6SSDE/
WD Black 1TB $85
http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Caviar-Internal-Desktop/dp/B0036Q7MV0/
Western Digital 3TB WD Black SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Desktop Hard Drive WD3001FAEX
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B2UWTHE/ -
Is there a way to manually distribute dual CPU resources in Logic Pro 7?
Hi,
Most of the time you can see that only one of the two CPU is used in Logic Pro. When it's saturated, the sound clips and it's over Is there a way to manually distribute processes and apps between the two CPUs? This is possible in Win thru Task Manager, and should be possible in Mac, but I dont know for sure. Can anyone help?
thx.It is handled by Logic and OS X. Node'ing is the only thing you can really do to control distribution of CPU aside from running standalone apps as standalone apps and not using Logic to host them. Logic's Multiprocessor support is sort of adrift. One day it will work and a half hour later it is concentrated on the 1st processor and not sharing tasks. It is kinda broken for some people sometimes. You just kind of have to live with it for now.
J -
Logic pro 9 in Mavericks CPU spikes to red
Ok, I was running logic pro 9 in OSX 10.7.5 and my project was running fine. I never once noticed the CPU levels spiking into the red.]
I upgraded to Mavericks and now 2 of the CPU's are constantly in the red!
It is the same in 32 bit or 64 bit mode.
I have 16gb of RAM, quad core i7 late 2011 Macbook Pro. I am using an external 7200 rpm drive.
This is such a joke.
I am about 1 day away from quitting logic forever and buying cubase 7. And after that i'll probably buy a pc.
Anyway I digress..
So now I have 8 cores showin, 2 are constantly maxed out in the red while the others look normal. Is this a bug in Mavericks?
Like i said - nothing else in my setup has changed, same logic 9.1.8, same project, etc.
Are Apple going to fix this? Or will they just tell me to upgrade to Logic X?
Well actually i wouldn't mind trying logic X to see if it has the same issue... but oops Apple forgot to make a trial version.
I have tried changing a whole bunch of settings in Logic, but to be honest I don't see why I c=should even need to try that. Surely it should work the same in Mavericks - if not better right?
Aaaaarrgggh,I am about 1 day away from quitting logic forever and buying cubase 7. And after that i'll probably buy a pc.
While I understand you are venting......
Such comments/"threats' are largely met with the following type of response here...
Please go ahead and do so.... Don't stop.. don't pass go.. don't collect your $200...Just do it.
....because we are all just users like yourself and not Apple employees here.. and so frankly, we don't care either way if you change to a different DAW or switch to a PC.. It makes not one jot of difference to us...
So, please bear that in mind in the future..
If you want to get your feelings heard by Apple then reading this User tip will probably help you do so...
Why doesn't Apple answer the questions that we ask about Logic Pro?
Thanks! -
Downloaded 10.4 Logic Pro X on Oct. 27 and immediately started noticing the HD and or fan coming on frequently. Today I used the activity monitor and sure enough it's clearly Logic take ALL the CPU resources. I increased the buffer as well as removed all peripherals and this did nothing to solve the issue. I did not have this problem with V.9 or V.x when it first came out. I can hear the drive/fan come on for no reason, making a lot of noise (thus impossible to record with mic in the room which was never a problem before) and the activity monitor indicates Logic is the culprit. Then Logic starts acting irratic and buggy and I have to shut everything off and reboot. Even loading a new song with one small audio region, Logic takes all the resources. I have a MAC Book Pro with 8mg and 400gig hd, no additional 3rd party plugins at this point and not running ANY other software while using Logic. I'm a musician, not a a computer expert. It has become impossible to work. I like some of the new features in X and don't want to go back to 9. Solutions anyone? Thanks in advance.
All the automation dissappears too! I regularly have to open backed up sessions to get everything back.
Is anyone else having this issue... or is it just me?
Best wishes,
Jon -
Slow responding Logic Pro 9, but enough cpu left
Hi there!
A really frustrating problem, wich i don't seem to get fixed.
I am working with:
2x2.26 6GB 1066 Mhz
LION
Logic Pro 9
Apogee DUET soundcard
Axiom Pro midi Keyboard
All is updated with the newest update
When i work on a project, with almost 85% CPU left, my projects in Logic Pro becomes really slow and doesnt seem to respond to anything.
If i play the project and hit the space again to stop it, the song continues to play. If i wait 10 seconds, its stops.
If i play the project and take my mouse and turn on a knob of a plugin, it responds really late o not at all. If i press space to stop the project, no respons, if i press stop on my midi keyboard the project does stop. After this all actions made before, are made at the moment the project stopped.
Notice: If i press the stop button on my midi keyboard, the tracks seems to stop immediately. Really strange.
Somehow it is only possible to stop the song with my midi keyboard. But even when it does and i start again, the problem stays.Playing the song and making changes at the same time is almost impossible. After a few seconds, the project gets really slow again. Mostly the slow error occurs after 1 minute working in the project.
So there is some strange problem, but what exactly?
I formatted my harddisk, installed LION on it again and reinstalled all my software. Then i created a new project with only 2 plugins and a few effects, still the same problem occurs.
This problem makes producing and a good work flow now nearly impossible.
Does anyone have an idea what this could be, any suggestions are most appreciated!
Thanks!
QuintinWith Activity Monitor, (already done it a few times) there was nothing really high in cpu.
Yes i already had an axiom pro added in Control Surface (setup).I also selected hypercontrol for in and out there.
Logic crashed twice, after clicking on 'Bypass All Control Surfaces' . After selecting this and going to setup > it crashed selecting an axiom pro..
So there is going something wrong over there?
I copied the crashreport maybe it is useful:
Process: Logic Pro [691]
Path: /Volumes/VOLUME/Applications/Logic Pro.app/Contents/MacOS/Logic Pro
Identifier: com.apple.logic.pro
Version: 9.1.6 (1700.43)
Build Info: Logic-17004300~1
Code Type: X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [127]
Date/Time: 2012-01-11 22:35:25.524 +0100
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.7.2 (11C74)
Report Version: 9
Interval Since Last Report: 73962 sec
Crashes Since Last Report: 2
Per-App Interval Since Last Report: 65825 sec
Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 2
Anonymous UUID: 3E0CA135-5DC3-4149-9844-9CDDFC28DBFE
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000000
VM Regions Near 0:
--> __PAGEZERO 0000000000000000-0000000000001000 [ 4K] ---/--- SM=NUL /Volumes/VOLUME/Applications/Logic Pro.app/Contents/MacOS/Logic Pro
__TEXT 0000000000001000-0000000000be4000 [ 11.9M] r-x/rwx SM=COW /Volumes/VOLUME/Applications/Logic Pro.app/Contents/MacOS/Logic Pro
Application Specific Information:
objc[691]: garbage collection is OFF
abort() called
Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x900839c6 __pthread_kill + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a146f78 pthread_kill + 106
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a137ce3 __abort + 198
3 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a137c1d abort + 231
4 com.apple.logic.pro 0x003e3b59 std::ostream& TraceOutContainer<CEvs>(std::ostream&, CEvs, char const*, int) + 3831609
5 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a19c59b _sigtramp + 43
6 com.apple.logic.pro 0x005a1dcf std::ostream& TraceOutContainer<CEvs>(std::ostream&, CEvs, char const*, int) + 5659055
7 com.apple.logic.pro 0x005a14cb std::ostream& TraceOutContainer<CEvs>(std::ostream&, CEvs, char const*, int) + 5656747
8 com.apple.Foundation 0x97dd5f49 __-[NSNotificationCenter addObserver:selector:name:object:]_block_invoke_1 + 49
9 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x92a77ff3 ___CFXNotificationPost_block_invoke_1 + 275
10 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x92a42d78 _CFXNotificationPost + 2776
11 com.apple.Foundation 0x97dc1136 -[NSNotificationCenter postNotificationName:object:userInfo:] + 92
12 com.apple.Foundation 0x97dd63ca -[NSNotificationCenter postNotificationName:object:] + 55
13 com.apple.AppKit 0x997cee2c -[NSTableView _sendSelectionChangedNotificationForRows:columns:] + 174
14 com.apple.AppKit 0x997a41bd -[NSTableView _enableSelectionPostingAndPost] + 428
15 com.apple.AppKit 0x997cb9f9 -[NSTableView mouseDown:] + 5181
16 com.apple.AppKit 0x9972d7b1 -[NSWindow sendEvent:] + 7533
17 com.apple.prokit 0x010104a6 -[NSProPanel sendEvent:] + 257
18 com.apple.logic.pro 0x007c54d3 std::ostream& TraceOutContainer<CEvs>(std::ostream&, CEvs, char const*, int) + 7901363
19 com.apple.logic.pro 0x0003fd36 std::ostream& TraceOutContainer<CEvs>(std::ostream&, CEvs, char const*, int) + 14614
20 com.apple.AppKit 0x996c56ff -[NSApplication sendEvent:] + 4788
21 com.apple.prokit 0x00feb368 -[NSProApplication sendEvent:] + 2043
22 com.apple.logic.pro 0x0061187d std::ostream& TraceOutContainer<CEvs>(std::ostream&, CEvs, char const*, int) + 6116445
23 com.apple.logic.pro 0x00616321 std::ostream& TraceOutContainer<CEvs>(std::ostream&, CEvs, char const*, int) + 6135553
24 com.apple.logic.pro 0x006118af std::ostream& TraceOutContainer<CEvs>(std::ostream&, CEvs, char const*, int) + 6116495
25 com.apple.AppKit 0x99656c82 -[NSApplication run] + 1007
26 com.apple.prokit 0x00fedb78 NSProApplicationMain + 439
27 com.apple.logic.pro 0x0002bb85 DummyConnection::DummyConnection() + 193
Thread 1:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9008490a kevent + 10
1 libdispatch.dylib 0x92bccc58 _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 969
2 libdispatch.dylib 0x92bcb6a7 _dispatch_mgr_thread + 53
Thread 2:: com.apple.NSURLConnectionLoader
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x90081c22 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x900811f6 mach_msg + 70
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x92a250ea __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 170
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x92a2e214 __CFRunLoopRun + 1428
4 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x92a2d8ec CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 332
5 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x92a2d798 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 120
6 com.apple.Foundation 0x97e2a21c +[NSURLConnection(NSURLConnectionReallyInternal) _resourceLoadLoop:] + 378
7 com.apple.Foundation 0x97e1df7d -[NSThread main] + 45
8 com.apple.Foundation 0x97e1df2d __NSThread__main__ + 1582
9 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a144ed9 _pthread_start + 335
10 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a1486de thread_start + 34
Thread 3:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9008383e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a148e21 _pthread_cond_wait + 827
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a0f942c pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 71
3 com.apogee.DuetPlugIn 0x0abd734f apogeeDriverPlugInMessageQueue::WaitForNextMessageInList() + 57
4 com.apogee.DuetPlugIn 0x0abd7616 ClientBiDirConnection::HandlePropertyChanges() + 28
5 com.apogee.DuetPlugIn 0x0abd78dc PthreadHandlingPropertyChanges(void*) + 21
6 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a144ed9 _pthread_start + 335
7 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a1486de thread_start + 34
Thread 4:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9008383e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a148e21 _pthread_cond_wait + 827
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a0f942c pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 71
3 com.apogee.DuetPlugIn 0x0abd6fcc MessageTX::TXThread() + 118
4 com.apogee.DuetPlugIn 0x0abd7266 TransmitThread(void*) + 21
5 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a144ed9 _pthread_start + 335
6 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a1486de thread_start + 34
Thread 5:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x90083a9a __recvfrom + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a0f94a2 recv$UNIX2003 + 54
2 com.apogee.DuetPlugIn 0x0abd7c65 ClientBiDirLocalSocketConnection::ReceiveData(void*, int) + 53
3 com.apogee.DuetPlugIn 0x0abd6489 MessageRX::RXThread() + 193
4 com.apogee.DuetPlugIn 0x0abd6973 ReceiveThread(void*) + 21
5 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a144ed9 _pthread_start + 335
6 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a1486de thread_start + 34
Thread 6:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x90081d36 mach_wait_until + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a0f2439 nanosleep + 388
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a0f0cba usleep + 60
3 de.access-music.virus_ti.util.hal 0x0bcb8e63 PGOSXDevice::threadRun() + 391
4 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a144ed9 _pthread_start + 335
5 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a1486de thread_start + 34
Thread 7:: com.apple.CFSocket.private
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x90083b42 __select + 10
1 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x92a7c195 __CFSocketManager + 1557
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a144ed9 _pthread_start + 335
3 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a1486de thread_start + 34
Thread 8:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9008383e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a148e21 _pthread_cond_wait + 827
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a0f942c pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 71
3 com.apple.music.apps.MAAudioEngine 0x02ccdb29 MDFileIOThread_IsBusy + 3593
4 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a144ed9 _pthread_start + 335
5 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a1486de thread_start + 34
Thread 9:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x90081c22 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x900811f6 mach_msg + 70
2 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x013bbfcb XServerMachPort::ReceiveMessage(int&, void*, int&) + 101
3 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x013def8b MIDIProcess::RunMIDIInThread() + 259
4 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x013df912 MIDIProcess::MIDIInPortThread::Run() + 24
5 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x013bd59f XThread::RunHelper(void*) + 17
6 com.apple.audio.midi.CoreMIDI 0x013bcf69 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 123
7 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a144ed9 _pthread_start + 335
8 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a1486de thread_start + 34
Thread 10:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9008383e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a148e78 _pthread_cond_wait + 914
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a148f7b pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47
3 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x945ba5a3 TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 178
4 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x945ba319 TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon + 490
5 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x945ba12a TSWaitOnSemaphoreRelative + 24
6 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9462f46c TimerThread + 292
7 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a144ed9 _pthread_start + 335
8 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a1486de thread_start + 34
Thread 11:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x90081d36 mach_wait_until + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a0f2439 nanosleep + 388
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a0f0cba usleep + 60
3 de.access-music.virus_ti.control.bundle 0x246f3cc3 PGOSXDevice::threadRun() + 391
4 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a144ed9 _pthread_start + 335
5 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a1486de thread_start + 34
Thread 12:: com.apple.appkit-heartbeat
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x90083bb2 __semwait_signal + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a0f97b9 nanosleep$UNIX2003 + 187
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a0f9558 usleep$UNIX2003 + 60
3 com.apple.AppKit 0x998a2be2 -[NSUIHeartBeat _heartBeatThread:] + 2399
4 com.apple.Foundation 0x97e1df7d -[NSThread main] + 45
5 com.apple.Foundation 0x97e1df2d __NSThread__main__ + 1582
6 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a144ed9 _pthread_start + 335
7 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a1486de thread_start + 34
Thread 13:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9008402e __workq_kernreturn + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a146ccf _pthread_wqthread + 773
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9a1486fe start_wqthread + 30
Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0x00000000 ebx: 0x00000000 ecx: 0xbfffed0c edx: 0x900839c6
edi: 0xacc082c0 esi: 0x00000006 ebp: 0xbfffed28 esp: 0xbfffed0c
ss: 0x00000023 efl: 0x00000246 eip: 0x900839c6 cs: 0x0000000b
ds: 0x00000023 es: 0x00000023 fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x0000000f
cr2: 0x0dda0000
Logical CPU: 0
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How to reduce CPU usage when working in Logic Pro and Kontakt5
Hello All,
I have a MacBook Pro 15" early 2011 2.0 GHZ. My main acitivity is making music with my macbook pro. I am using Logic Pro 9 in combination with Kontakt 5.
I want to get some suggestions in the setup so I can reduce the usage of the CPU. By the way I have upgraded my system with a SSD 256GB , 16GB RAM and have removed the optical drive and installed the the previous factory set HD in the optical bay. I have placed the samples of the Kontakt 5 in the HD so I have enough space on my SSD to run the progrmas fast and smooth !
If possible give your advise on an optimum setup such as reachanaling the sounds through BUS to AUX channels and other methods in order to reduce the CPU usage. You may even post some good links where I can find more info.
Thanks in advance
Wkrgds, Levonwelshwiggle wrote:
So Center of Pan,
If you were to run something like Omnipshere on an active SI track do you get anywhere near the "1 core CPU" spike I'm getting on my Late 2011 TOTR MBP?
I still dont really get why L9 on a new MBP peforms worse than eg your PC.
Older versions of Logic (ie: 5.5) don't see individual cores, there is one disk meter and one CPU meter. In some ways it's a more efficient system. This is running on WinXP which happens to be a very good system for audio. Consider this, XP can be installed and take up only half a gig of disk space and do 90% of what most operating systems can do today.
I do see single core spikes on my single processor quad core Mac Pro. There's no way to get around a processor intensive plugin on a single track. A channel strip is tied to a single process (core). I stopped upgrading at 10.6.8 and Logic 9.1.3, because it works. I still get the occasional single core use even with multiple plugs and tracks but I can usually break the logjam by quickly starting and stopping Logic 2 or 3 times.
I will not upgrade Mac hardware or software unless the next version of Logic is outstanding, I'm fine where I'm at for the next year or two. I enjoy recording performers more than anything else so al I really need is a good sounding, solid system. -
Logic Pro 9.1 64bit - THANK YOU!!!
Just wanted to thank Apple for providing this 64bit option, very much appreciated and even more so that it runs extremely well on my older (2007) MacPro.
I don't use 3rd party plug-ins as I've never needed to go outside of what Logic provides (except maybe for 96Hz 24bit recorded samples).
I've found the 9.x releases/updates to be considerably more stable than any prior version of Logic Pro. And it seems to work better with the kind of work I do. I've loaded it up with some pretty heavy hitting projects (surround sound) and it has never crashed nor failed me.
The only issue I've had was with a "stuck" midi message, but that's probably not Logic's fault -- and if that's the worse I've seen since the release of LP9, then I consider this a HUGE success for Apple and big improvement.
What I would like to know, and the real reason for my post -- the 64bit mode seems to be able to utilize my 2 X 2 (4 cores) better than 32bit mode. Were there any changes to multi-threaded CPU support? In the performance meter (the one in LP9), I see all 4 of my cores working nicely and virtually no disk I/O any more. When I was running in 32bit mode, I'd get more Disk I/O activity and only see 2 cores being used.
RobI can't really answer your question, but here's a useful link explaining how logic deals with multicores:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3161
I would say that it makes sense things work better with 64 bit, since both the Processor (Xeon) as well as the OS (Snow Leopard) were designed for 64-bit.
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