Logic Pro -Used in Live Performance

Hi All,
I know this will seem like shameless self promotion ( it is, kinda...)
But, many folks on this list are always asking about "live" applications of Logic Pro and Virtual Instruments..
Latency, practicality etc..
Well... here is my experience: LIVE,
for your amusement and entertainment:
http://www.youtube.com/user/DrRyman
Macbook Pro 2 gig
RME FF800
Logic Pro
third Party plugs..
( yeah, I'll fess up as to what they are after i see anyone is interested)
Novation SL 61 controller
Let me know what you think,
Daniel

Yeah I haven't even touched the Environment...I don't get how it works whatsoever...and now I have even more complications.
I'm currently using two keyboards. One is a generic midi keyboard with just a midi in/out and another is my Edirol PCR-30. I also have a 8-pad drum machine unit that has it's own built-in-sampler and can also be used as a midi controller.
Now I'd like to "automate" the changes in keyboards. For the record, all of my keyboard sounds come from the built-in audio instrument plug-ins such as the ESX24, Sculpture, ES E, ES P, etc.
How could I have my larger generic keyboard play one sound, while my other controller plays another sound, and then, for example, for the choruses in my songs, have both of them play completely different sounds?
Would I need to get like a MOTU midi interface for all of these?
Is there anyway you can do this WITHOUT using the Environment? If not, could someone show me how to use this or send a screenshot of what their environment looks like so I could use it almost as a guide to building my own environment?
Also, we're trying to send the click track to our drummer without hearing the click in the main mix. Is there anyway to isolate/send the click using a presonus firepod? If not, can anyone reccommend a device that's reliable for this sort of thing?
Finally, what's the best way to connect to the main PA. Do most people run line out from their interface into the tape in of the mixer, or send maybe outs-1-2 to an interface?
I feel like I've conquered the software one day, and then the next I feel like I'm still new to the system. All help is very much appreciated, since I'm no expert at environments or music tech.
Thank you very much,
-D

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Am a lover of Logic Pro 7,
I will be taking it out on the road soon and basically I am looking at new ideas to use it live. I run the backing off iTunes so it really is only running as a sound source.
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At the moment I just have a simple 16 channel sound pallete, each with a different sound and all on 'rec'. This way I can access all the sounds one by one by selecting a midi channel etc etc.
However I would love to get more adveturous with my live set up
Having split or even zones set up to play sounds on different sections of the piano/synth. Or play two channel strips at once, etc etc
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Regards :))

Hi
Just have made the switch to MBP CD2 for my live instrument..
10.4.8 LP 7.2.3
Did Namm Demos solid using live VIs and FX and many backing tracks.
All plugs and transport controlled by Novation Sl 61..
Never an issue, solid..flawless.
Also did live band at my own wedding.. 4 songs with backing tracks..
Live instruments and Live lead from MPB
Solid.
proof at:http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=DrRyman
Regards,
D

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my name is Luca, I live in London.
Is there any workshop I can book for Logic Pro X?
Has Apple stopped to offer such workshops? It doesn tm appear to be on their list anymore..
Where can I find it? Who should I contact?
The store regent street referred me on their online workshop list being unaware that the logic workshop doesn t appear there.......mmm

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-18 dBFS on a digital scale is the same as 0dB on an analog scale.
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Mac G4 MD dual 1.4Ghz Mac OS X (10.4.3) 1gig omem 17in macdisplay
Mac G4 MD dual 1.4Ghz Mac OS X (10.4.3) 1gig omem 17in macdisplay

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IMAGE A - Configure track header on a blank project
IMAGE B - Configure track header on a existing project template
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GarageBand is meant to be able to open, and use easily and immediately by anyone with a mac. Logic pro is the opposite.
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