Logic Pro X performance difference between iMac i7 3.5ghz (non-Retina) and the i7 4.0 ghz (Retina)?

Hello - on the verge of getting an iMac - it's for Logic Pro and some video editing with Premiere Pro (don't *really* need the Retina screen though) - i'd just like to get an idea of the performance difference (especially in Logic Pro X) between the quad i7 3.5ghz (non-retina) and the quad i7 4.0ghz (retina)?
I use loads of plugin instruments (incl. big Kontakt libraries) and effects with just a few audio tracks (only ever record max a couple of audio tracks at a time)
Thanks!

I owned the imac and then returned it for the 2.6 MacBook Pro. After using both there is a noticeable speed difference between the 2. Not a huge difference but there is certainly more lag using the MacBook Pro. I found that lots of the lag went away when I attached to an external display though. At the end of the day I think you just need to decide if you need the portability or not. At first I thought I would keep the imac and then get a cheap MacBook Pro to use on the road but the thought of having multiple Lightroom catalogs sounds very annoying to me. Plus all the transferring back and forth. I will say also that I've been getting a lot of freezes in Photoshop on my mbp and weird errors like the sleep wake failure error some people are talking about when connected to a USB device. I didn't have any of these problems with the imac

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import java.io.DataOutput;
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Hi Robert,
Indeed, only the Filter.evaluate(Object obj)
method is invoked, but the object passed to it is a
MapEvent.<< In fact, I do not need to implement EntryFilter to
get a MapEvent, I could get the same result (in my
last message) by writting
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true)instead of
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DataOutput.writeInt(int) writes 4 bytes.
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for the long type as well, but your stamp attribute
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