Logic Studio - Presonus Firepod w/ Firewire 800 Drive (Firewire Issues?)

Hi all,
Having a problem on this end. I had picked up a Lacie 160gig bus-powered external HD. I had wanted to run this over Firewire 800, but it's not working.
Whenever I open the HD, my audio cuts out and remains cut until I reboot the system. The Firepod is running off Firewire 400, still get a connection (blue light), but no sound.
The problem only exhibits itself when I open up the HD.
Anyone else having issues running an external audio interface via Firewire 400 and an external Firewire 800 drive?
Thanks,
-B

Have a FW400 Focusrite Saffire Pro and a WD HD on the FW800. They wont work together on the built-in FW400 and FW800 ports of the MBP. Had to get a FW400 Expresscard and put the Saffire on that and the HD on the built-in FW800 port to get them to work together. Also please notice how professional using a lot of capital letter acronyms makes me seem.

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