Logic vs. express

I am new to digital recording. Currently using garageband with a cheap mixer I want to step up to express or logic. I want to do this for as little money as possible. The plan is to get a presonus firestudio package which includes the interface, MXL 990 & 991 mics, and M-Audio BX5A monitors. Does anyone have any comments criticism or suggestions? I am using garageband as just a tape recorder so to speak. I really don't use loops or synths. Allot of acoustic guitars and vocals. What is the difference sonically between Garageband, Express and Logic. oh yea, I have a macbook 13" lap top with tiger (I think ?) 10.4.11 2GHz intel core 2 duo, upgraded to 3 GB RAM

Depending on exactly how serious you are about "as little money as possible," you could simply get Express now and then upgrade to Studio--I believe it doesn't cost anything extra to do it in two steps like that. Express is quite a beefy program for the money. If you have any interest in programming beats, you may find Ultrabeat is worth $200 alone.
On the other hand, if you think you'll use loops and samples a lot, and you've got the extra $300 or so, might as well go straight to Studio because you'll get all the Jam Packs, which include quite a few loops and sampler instruments.
Oops, just saw that you don't use loops or synths. Might want to simply go for Express then--no penalty to upgrade later and for $200 it's a sick value. You'll get a lot more effects and production tools than I believe you have in Garageband (haven't used it since version 2). I think the main advantage for you of Studio would be the Space Designer reverb (which is very good), possibly Delay Designer, if you're into delay, and MainStage if you want to use Logic for live guitar effects. If money is short, I don't know that it makes sense for you to get Studio.

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I am wondering if I can record audio and midi at the
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