Logical System and Client copy

Hi Gurus ,
I just now finished ECC 6.0 successfully , I want to take the client copy . But i hacve one doubt , In client creation one TAB logical system is there , Kindly advice me how to create Logical system and steps .
Regards
Selvan

Hi Manjula ,
              Below i mentioned the full detail about the error .
    RFC destination for client copy in systems with Financials Basis     (FINBASIS) component.
The system could not find any suitable RFC destination for processing     for client 000.     This note also appears if an RFC destination was found but this does not     work.     o   RFC destination: FINBTR@ID3CLNT000     o   Error text: Error during the retrieval of the logon data     Proceed as follows to eliminate this error:
1. Start the wizard to create a new RFC connection     or perform the following steps manually:     1. Create an RFC destination with the target ZK>source client of client         copy (in this case 000).
2. Check whether the RFC destination works in transaction SM59.         To avoid errors when assigning the password or the authorizations of         the RFC user, use the authorization test Test -> Authorization.
3. Enter the RFC destination:         -   Transaction: FINB_TR_DEST (Destinations for Transport Methods of             the Financials Basis)         -   Client: 000
4. Start the client copy again.
Kindly advice me
selvan

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