Login keyboard layout messed up?

Spanish keyboard.
Language set to Spanish LA
I've set up a password for my account (the only account on this macbook) which includes an @ and an !. I know my password perfectly fine, and after setting it I've used it to wake up my macbook from sleep, so it works and I know exactly what password is.
SO after a while, I decide to actually turn off my computer instead of just closing the lid and letting it sleep. Big mistake.
Now I CANNOT login. It says "wrong password" everytime I write it. I had this same issue on Snow Leopard, where the @ was SHIFT+2 instead of ALT+2 JUST on the login screen, everywhere else (including the password prompt after waking up the macbook) was the normal ALT+2. But on snow leopard this does not seem to be the issue. I cannot change the keyboard layout from the login screen, cannot reset password from the DISC (at least couldn't find how to) and I just cannot login. I have a lot of files already, and quite a few apps I really wish I did not have to set up again.
Any ideas what I may be able to do? How do you (US people) normally type a ! and an @ ??

EnriqueRamirez wrote:
How do you (US people) normally type a ! and an @ ??
If your keyboard layout has been set to US for login, then ! is at Shift + 1 and @ is at Shift +2.
You can have the input menu appear at login by checking a box in system prefs/accounts/login items

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Last edited by bull3t (2013-03-03 14:10:15)

cfr wrote:Have you tried specifying a variant?
I exclude a variant problem considering that in any other condition the keyboard layout is right. The system is configured for an it KEYMAP but it is obvious that in entrance/kdm is used an 'us' map. Is this hardcoded somewhere? I also tryed to comment out any entry in /etc/locale.gen except 'it_IT.UTF-8 UTF-8': still 'us' keymap in graphical login screen.
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I've took some of screen captures.
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Capture 1:
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Capture 2:
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Capture 3:
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