Long render time in FCP after using Handbrake

After seeing a suggestion in these forums on converting non-copy written DVDs to usable files in FCP I downloaded Handbrake. It works fine but the render times seem to be extremely long.
Is there any way to speed this up or perhaps any other programs I can use?

Match your export settings to an Easy Set up preset in FCP.
And you don't need Handbrake for unencrypted DVDs.
Use MPEG Streamclip

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Xtremely long render times

I am doing a very simple project that seems to be taking longer than it should. I'm taking Sony HDV 1080i clips, about 10-15 minutes long, and adding an elapsed time window, and a time code reader window to them for a research client. 3 layers, no editing, no sound. I have place the HVD file in it's native sequence, so there's no rendering until I add the filters from FCP. Then, it takes from 11-15 hours to render these sequences, then another 2 or so to export the files as h.264 for the client's use. That seems really long to me. I made a compressor setting, h.264 1920x1080, 25000kb, so I might avoid the long render time, but that took about 9 hours. Am I missing something? I usualy work with DVCPro HD, and notjhing I do, with lots of laysers take that long.

Not looking over your shoulder, I'm making a few possibly invalid assumptions.
The HDV is your first major problem. You should transcode that to ProRes422LT on ingestion and build your sequence in that format. The files are much larger but they're uncompressed. Well, they're compressed but they don't require decompression before they can be rendered.
Exporting to H.264 from PRLT in 1080 is four to six times realtime depending on your system's specs. I't seight times on mine.
Placing your HDV sequence into a native sequence only means the base layer doesn't need to be rendered to be played. But the HDV must be unpacked, frame at a time, to be rendered with effects and that takes two to six times realtime. You say the clips are 15 minutes but you don't say how long the sequence that takes 15 hours to process is.
bogiesan

After Effects CS6 super long render times.

I am trying to render multiple 30 second long compositions and the renders are reaching over 5 hours each. There is nothing special in any of the compositions. I have rendered these same compositions in the past with minor changes in AE CS5 and they finished in seconds using the Open GL renderer. I understand CS6 uses a different engine for rendering. I have ensured my video card is in the supported list (added it), and ray tracing is set to the GPU. I triple checked all the drivers and everything is up to date. I have tried every combination of settings I can think of with no results. Help!
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Five hours is not an unusual render time for a 30-second composition, depending on the details of the composition.
See this page for resources about making After Effects work faster: http://adobe.ly/eV2zE7

Premiere-After Effects Dynamic Link render times vary wildly after minimal composition changes

Here is something strange that happens a lot to me.
I'll have a sequence in Premiere Pro CC 2014 that is entirely or largely an AE comp that I have dynamically linked. I'll use a specific case as an example, but it's happened with various projects.
In this most recent one the visual (but not audio) of my Premiere sequence is one AE dynamically linked comp of about 90 seconds. It's more or less a fancy slide show- some photos with moves, some text, motion blur, masking, maybe a few filters. Fairly basic stuff as far as After Effects goes.
Anyhow, I like to render the sequence in Premiere and then watch it down with music to see if the timing works and make adjustments from there. That's my usual workflow. The strange thing is that when I render, the render times can vary tremendously. With this particular project, one time rendered in about 2 minutes in Premiere. I watched it down and I noticed a spelling error, which I fixed. Just changing one word of text in AE. This, of course, causes the entire linked comp to need to be rendered again in Premiere. This time when I go to render, it took about 20 minutes and it only got about 70% of the way through. A huge difference and all I changed was a couple letters, which shouldn't impact how intensive of a render is needed. What I usually do is cancel the render when it takes that long, then quit Premiere, reopen, and render right away after I open. When I do this, after the application restart, the sequence will then render in the faster approximately 2 minute duration. Almost invariably this is true.
So I end up quitting and restarting Premiere a lot to get the faster render times. But of course that's annoying.
What is going on here?
I know that some might have critiques of the workflow and watching in Premiere and the fact that one letter change forces the entire sequence re-render. I know I could break it up and there are ways around that. But I am not interested in such critiques. My work flow actually is quite efficient when the 2 minute render time happens. Just not when it takes 10x more than that for the same thing. Why are there these huge render time swings?
My guess is that some cache gets filled up, so when the application is just started, and the cache is empty, the render works much better. But I really do not know.
Help please.

There is currently a bug that causes Dynamic Link performance to be poor when the main After Effects application is running. (The underlying issue is that the main After Effects application is sending many more messages during Dynamic Link than it needs to.)
The easy workaround is to quit the main After Effects application when using Premiere Pro to process a dynamically linked After Effects composition.
This bug is fixed in an update due to be released in less than two weeks.

New machine, new drives...all of a sudden, long render times. Need help!

Just purchased a new 8 core, 6 gigs of ram, and Sonnett raid array. All going well for a few weeks. Now, just to render a simple jpeg with a drop shadow or a 5 second Motion file it takes 7 minutes. I feel like I just threw 10 grand out the window! What is going on? Please help.

Thomas, I have a late 2007 MacPro, I have also just started with HD, well HDV, editing. I use motion very heavily and have to say that I have been noticing pretty significant render times as well. To answer your question yes, exporting an FCP sequence-native animation from motion will be muuuch faster that using templates. Templates are cool, and the idea is right on the money, but from what I have found, they take a long time to render and do not play back very well in FCP unless they have been fully rendered. If I use a template, it is with a graphic that I will overlay once the entire timeline has been put together, this way, I don't have to screw around with rendering templates as I am trying to edit other video/audio/graphics together in the timeline. I just finish the timeline, add the templates, and render the whole thing at once.
Like you, I am becoming very frustrated. As I mentioned above, my work around is to export most of my Motion 3 animations in HDV 1440x1080, send them to FCP and then they don't require any rendering at all - the only downside is that it won't support an alpha channel (at least not that I've seen) so those animations can't use any transparency.
Finally, I have also been having a ton of crashing issues with FCP giving me that same message about "Pro Media Plug In may have caused the crash" or whatever that dumb message says. I looked for any plug in that matched that description and couldn't find it - so I am dumbfounded. Has anyone else had this issue - FCP has crashed 8 times on me today.
Good luck, I'll be checking back on this thread to see if anyone has a fix or workaround or whatever.

Render Times on FCP Not Accurate?

Hi, <- My casual Greeting
Hopefully there are a few video editors out there on the forum... cause this one is program specific....
So I have been an avid Final Cut Pro guy for the last 4 years. I love the program.... I can work very easily in it but recently I got a new job in which I have been using both FCP and Adobe Premier.
Here is my issue... I have been using files that come in as MPEG 2 and have been using MPEG Streamclip to convert them over to a ProRes file for FCP. From FCP I have had to export them into 3 formats
1. Mpeg 4 (the file format our website takes)
2. FLV (Format for online video sites)
3. QuickTime (XDCAM) for our tricaster
The last week I have been using FCP and my render times have been (for a 5 min clip)
1. Mpeg 1 hour+
2. FLV 20 min+
3. QuickTime (XDCAM) 1 hour +
Yesterday I was told to use Premier as my boss uses Premier on a regualr basis and I assured him that the times would be the same as FCP is a Mac native program and that Premier was made to work on a mac but is essentially a PC program (I am eating my words now)...
I redid the renders on the same file...
On premier the render times were
1. Mpeg 30+ min
2. FLV 12 min
3. QuickTime (XDCAM) 40 min
Why is this? Do I just have something really messed up in my settings that FCP is not rendering quickly and Premier is? I would hate to have to hop over to Premier... I enjoy using FCP way to much.
The other question I have is why are FCP render times not accurate...
The renders will start saying 5 min then 10 then an hour etc.... and the time will not be accurate. If it says 5 min it may go for an hour... or if it says an hour it may just complete while still telling me I have an hour to wait.
Adobe Premier, right off the bat, will tell me the frame it is on and the percent and time left... almost to the T.
If possible... please help me get my fcp back on the right track.
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Rendering can be much faster if you have a multi core intel Mac and you use Qmaster with Quick Clusters.
Here's how.
Set up Quick Clusters in Qmaster. (A description of how to do this is in the manual and also can be found in the Qmaster forum here in the Apple discussions as well as out on the web.)
Export your sequence from FCP using "current settings". (Do NOT use Quicktime Conversion!)
Open up Compressor and submit your file. Add the three output elements.
Submit the file and click "use unmanaged services"
Go have a cup of coffee while all the cores chug away at things. I guarantee it will be faster than the way you are currently exporting (if you aren't using clusters)
x

Render time between fcp and motion

I make my own project in motion 3, this project is something like a slideshow but I used a new camera, a light, and the images (png files) in a 3d way. the number of media in the scene is always low, one ore two without filters too. Anyway, when I export the animation directly from motion to a .mov file I obtain a render time very quick, but if I import my motion project in fcp I can't work with this; just the visualization time is prohibitive! than when I export through compressor or directly from fcp tha application crash!
so my question is what elements fcp doesn't like? light? camera? 3d elements?
this time I solved the problem exporting my clip from motion like file.mov but I only move the problem... I cant't archive my project, it's to big!
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In my experience, these problems are more likely to crop up when using oversized images. Especially those greater than 2k or 4k (depending on your card). Motion gets a larger "workspace" on its own than when invoked to render from within FCP or Compressor...
Patrick

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I love MB Looks - really getting into it...but the render times are killing me.
Could I potentially speed things up? Right now, I'm looking at 25 minutes to render about a minute.
Just to clarify, these clips are at about 45% speed and already have a Looks color filter on them. I've just added the misfire vignette, (which I think looks better than the vingettes I used to make with black video and the circle effect).
Previous to adding MisFire, everything was all rendered up....
Twiddling Thumbs.....
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Looks is slow to render, but after completing a recent project I have discovered that the misfire effects are extremely slow. They are optimized very well. I feel like they need a major overhaul to take advantage of multicore CPUs. A great alternative to using the circle filter or misfire to create a vignette is to use the titler. In order to get realtime playback with my GPU, I did the following:
1. Create a new title and add a black square the size of the title plate
2. Add a white oval to the center of the title (the size of the oval will control the size of the vignette)
3. Place the title in the track above the video you want to add the vignette to
4. Change the transfer mode to Multiply
5. Add a Gaussian Blur and crank the blur up to create a smooth gradient from white to black (I had a value in the hundreds)
6. Adjust the opacity to taste
Just another way to create a vignette that will render much faster.

MacBook no longer connects wirelessly to internet after using ethernet

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Much longer render time for a few small changes?

I bought a new Macbook pro last week with a 2.4 ghz intel i5 processor and 8 GB of ram. I got Adobe premiere pro yesterday and I made a video which combined taking footage shot from my flip video camera and audio commentary that I recorded across the full video. The video was rendered with the setting H.264 and the preset Youtube widescreen HD, the final video was about an 800 MB .mp4 file. It took about 30-40 minutes to render.
Today, I added a 17 minute mp3 file for background music, which was 17 mb. I also added 6 images and 2 titles which overlay the video at different points. The only other thing I added along with these two was a 16 second mov file which serves as an intro video to my series. With these 3 (what I consider to be fairly small) changes, my render time has jumped dramatically. With the same export settings, I see the render time build and build until it reaches 4+ hours and I decide to stop. I've tried a couple different formats, but I'm not sure what else to do. I feel that 8gb should be plenty to render a video like this fairly quickly (like I did yesterday) and I'm not sure why it's taking so long compared to yesterday. Is this normal? Any help to guide me with reducing render times would be much appreciated. Thanks!

The Export time will differ by what one is Exporting from and what they are Exporting to. In this case, the "to" has not changed.
What has changed?
Well, the stills for one. What is the format and what are the pixel x pixel dimensions of those?
The addition of the MOV is another place to look. What is the CODEC inside that MOV "wrapper?" Having to decode via the CODEC can impact the Export time.
The new Audio has changed. What is the format/CODEC of that music file?
Those are the first thoughts that I have on this, and good luck,
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Rendering Hundreds of Audio Previews Upon Export, Long Render Times

Hi everyone,
I have an assembly cut of a feature, with footage and a timeline at 422 ProRes HQ, 24 fps, 96kHz audio.
When I try to export any length of a clip, I get exorbitant render times and hundreds of audio previews to render.
Video alone is rendered almost instantaneously.
There are some audio files on the timeline (music and SFX) at 48k sample rate.
Any ideas what the problem is?
Thanks.
Premiere CC 2014
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Thanks, Ann. I'm thinking that may be a factor because this is the first time I've had to work with audio recorded at 96 and I've never had this problem.
Can anyone else elaborate more?

Long Render Times Using Timewarp

Hi Todd. I went to After effects to transform a 3 hour clip I slowed down useing the timewarp effect and then I added it to the render queue. It was going to take approx 26 hours to render. Is this correct? I use a pretty powerful machine. Please see these specs...
These are the After effects settings

Am I seeing this correctly? You want to slow down a 3 hour clip? That means your composition is going to have to be 12 hours long. The maximum length of an After Effects composition is 3 hours so you won't be able to render the entire movie.
I can't imagine anyone wanting to watch a 12 hour, or even a 3 hour movie that's been slowed down to 1/4 speed. Asside from that, if that's what you really want to do, Timewarp may not be your best option. It's a slow to render effect that does a whole bunch of calculations to try and manufacture the extra pixels and put them in the right spot.
I'd look at using an NLE. PPro has speed functions that render very quickly and would probably be better suited to a project of this length.

Extremely Long Render Times!! Please help!!

Hello,
Let me start off by saying I am new to premier, forums, and video editing for the most part.
My content comes from (2) GoPro Hero 4 cameras set at 4k and a Sony FDR-AX100, also set at 4k.
MY PROBLEM (well hopefully the one you can help me with)
I import the content into Premier Pro CC 2014 (which is all up to date) applying color correction, fades, and titles. When I try to playback the files even with all effects turned off my computer will not do it. I need to first render preview files. So I select my in and out points and try to render but it takes, DAYS to complete. For example: A 3 minute selection on the timeline will take 70 hours to render the preview files. After it renders, I make a few more adjustments and let my computer render for a few more days.
I must be doing something wrong. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
MY SETUP:
I use the Nvidia CUDA architecture as my playback engine in Premier.
Premier is installed on my internal drive. The footage & project files are kept on a WD VelociRaptor Thunderbolt Drive and my preview files are set to a second WD VelociRaptor Thunderbolt Drive.
My preferences are set to use up to 12 gigs of ram for Premier, leaving the other 20 for other applications. It is optimized for Memory. I have tried most all combinations of ram setting here with little luck. (again, I'm new and don't know what I'm doing.)
My Premier sequence is set to be 1080p & my sequence settings are set to a width & height of 960 x 540 with the program monitor set at 1/4 quality.
All the above and I can't even play a file. I have nothing else open or running and have stopped everything that would normally run in the background at startup (like the iTunes helper).
Anywho. Thanks for taking the time to read all the above. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Warm regards,
Alex

A quick update for anyone stumbling on this later...
As it turns out, I am not utilizing the full amount of RAM available to me. In fact, I am unable to. As it was explained to me, my workflow is bottlenecked by my processor and because I have an iMac, well, I'm stuck with what I have until I can afford to replace the machine.
I have 32 gigs of RAM, and with my processor at 90% use, only 9 to 10 gigs of RAM are utilized.
I'd rather buy a new machine (custom PC) rather than swap to FCP. So the saving begins...
However, I am not up the creek yet. It was recomended I drop the quality/file size by using Media Encoder and converting all my footage to Apple ProRes files, replace clips, and finish what I started.
I began converting last night.
I guess we can chalk this up to Beginners Luck?
Thanks again Steven for all your help.
Warm regards to all,
Alex

Long Render Times in HDV

I've just started on FCP HDV and have noticed that it take a really long time to render. The timeline is set up in the same formatt at the files i've captured and my export settings follow suit.
can anyone explain why it takes an hour to export 4 minutes of timeline.
I am running a brand new G5 and the IT dept have it running well.
I know that HDV is huge but I never had this problem with Premiere Pro HD.
Cheers heaps for any replies,
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I am making DVD's in the end. I have used the easy set up and everything is flush. Exports are done using Quicktime export not quicktime Conversion. My other question is there an easy to export a low res QT of the timeline quickly.
I am also using the H.264 blah blah range of codecs too but only on renders with Aftereffects. They dont need to be rendered in the FCP timeline and my fields still look good.
Im pretty sure I have the intermediate codec though. Is ther a completed codec out yet?
Thanks for the replies guys

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