Long term planning,mid point scheduling,finite scheduling

Dear Sir,
Please explain the Long term planning,mid point scheduling and finite scheduling in simple words
thnx.

Hi,
LTP: Long term planning used to simulate your future production plan. Based on your future production plan, you can check by simulation, loading the products requirements in the inactive planning version and defining the inactive planning version in the scenario and you can execute the MRP run. Then the system will create the capacity requirements and you can see the overloads. Based on this simulation run, you can include any new work centres and increase the manpower or increase the shifts.
Finite Scheduling: This will consider the real details, like the no of work centres and working hours per day and working days in a year and considering the existing loads. This is called finite scheduling. R/3 does infinite scheduling. If the capacity not exist also you can release the production orders.
Regards,
V. Suresh

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Long term planning-Scheduling problem

Hi Experts,
When I am doing Long term planning run MS02, i am facing the following problem:
There are 10 stages of operations to make a finished product. Each stage having different order types and planned orders are created at each stage.
For the last stage material i am doing the Long term planning ( ie. Raw material)
After running MS02, The results are like this:
the scheduling for the first 6 stages are according to the requirement dates.
But the last 4 stages the scheduling is not correct. The system is combining 10 days requirement and giving only one planned order.
I want seperate planned orders date wise.
Please give me a solution.
Thanks & Regards
Bala

Hi Dharma,
There is no planning calendar or period lot size assigned for any materials.
MRP type is PD for all materials except the long lead time material and the lot size is EX.
For the long lead time material ( ie. the bottom stage material) MRP type is M1 and lot size EX.
Thanks & Regards
Bala

Use Reorder Point Planning and see VSE Requirements in Long Term Planning

Hello,
I would like to use reorder point planning short term and something similar to MRP planning long term. I am trying to drive actual production off of consumption and plan long term for capacity, inventory and BOM components. Our plan is to delete the near term forecast and leave the long term forecast in to show requirements for LTP.
I'm configured for Reorder Point Planning as follows:
MRP type V1, Reorder Point Planning with External Requirements
Planning Strategy 52
HB Max Stock Level
For the longer term forecast requirements I'm configured with:
Independent Requirement Type VSE, Planning without final assembly. This is creating non convertible planned order independent requirements.
The reorder point planning is executing perfectly, but how do I get the VSE planned order independent requirements to show up in long term capacity and inventory planning? What am I missing? Is it something with MRP type, am I missing an option in the long term planning setup?
This has been a tough issue and I would greatly appreciate any advice on this.
Thank you,
Wes
Edited by: weslaney on Jul 21, 2009 11:40 PM

HI
check the planning scenario in MS31 and the PIR assignment in MS31 also check the plant assignement.
Check In MD61 you have enter PIRs in simulation version and the same version is to assigned in planning scenario
Also check T code OPU5 for LTP setting for planned orders
Regards
Anupam Sharma
Edited by: anupam sharma on Sep 3, 2010 2:33 PM

T399D - Long-term planning allowed for a plant

Hi gurus,
I was checking the table T399D and it has the "Long-term planning allowed for a plant" field (T399D-SIMPL), but, I do not know where I can customise this!
I was checking OMI8 and OPPQ (Parameters for DS section) transactions, but, I cannot find this field.
Could you help me in order to know where I can customise this?
Kind regards,
Sandra

Hi Sandra,
As it is correctly said that there is not much configuration required to Run LTP, but what you basically need to maintain/configure is as follows-
To carry out an annual planning or a rolling quarterly planning run you require information on the
future stock and requirements situation. This means you need to know how sales and operations
planning influence resources(conceptually)-
In long-term planning you can also plan materials that usually require very little planning in
operative planning, such as, materials planned using reorder point planning, bulk material, and
materials planned using KANBAN. In long-term planning, you can plan these materials as you
would MRP materials. This provides you with an overview of how these materials influence the
demand program.
The materials you want to plan in long-term planning must have already been planned in
operative MRP.Apart from above conceptual knowledge what else you require to configure /maintain is-
Planning Scenario(If you are running wity reference to it)-MS31
And run it through MS02(with reference to planning scenario) where you have to put mandatory MRP Control Parameters according to your business process eg.Processing key,create MRP list,planning mode,scheduling,firming planned orders.
Hope it fulfils your purpose at some extent.
Regards
Chandra

Capacity requirement for long term planning and make to order planning

hello,
anybody please guide me.
my client using make to order scenarion and we are doing regulaly MRP run is MD50 with refernce to sales order.
sales orders planning will follow for 2 to 3 months.
at the same time my client wants to do long term planning also. to analize the capacity.
for that he is creatind planning scenario and multi level planning with MS02 also.
But the problem is when they are checking capacity requirement in cm38 it is showing only planning scenario load only. my client wants existing load and longterm planning load also. so they can plan the planning is sutibale in existing plan.
so how can i get both plan in CM 38or is there any other T.code to get that data.
please suggest me
Thanks & Regards
Bhakta

Hi Pierre and Rajesh,
When we create the simulation version, you have the possibility to choose the short-term planning. My point of view is, you can use the LTP fonction to do your scheduling for ex the next 3 months.
I think it's what Pierre did. Am I right ?
between to scheduling scenario to deliver my customer. With the simulation mode I can do my scheduling + use the MRP simulation to check if the raw material are available or not. Then use the MD04 to do the comparaison (or MS04 to compare between 2 scenario).
But I found 2 problems :
First : I don't find the parameters to show in the graphic MFS0, the planed fix order (I can only see the process order)
Second : When my scheduling is finished, I want to update my operational planning with the simulation version. But I don't want to do article by article : when you have 400 references (raw mat, packaging, finish goods) it's impossible (same issue like Pierre)
Have you found a solution for this 2 points ?

Extracting LTP (Long Term Planning) Data from SAP ECC to SAP BW

Hello all
Here is the task in hand. There is a standard report that Production Planners execute post their MRP/LTP runs. This report can be accessed through T-code "MCB)". The program in action is RMCB1200. I tried looking for any standard extractors but to no avail. I would be fine to know either or both of the following:
An extractor
All the primary tables involved ( I have found a few tables through the program but a list by some expert will help me understand that I have not missed anything significant)
Also, if anyone has done this before, how was your experience with the extraction in terms of extraction volume and performance.
Regards
Gajendra

After further digging, here is some information that I found out.
T-code
Program
BADI
MSEX
RMDMRPEXTRACT02
MD_SR_LIST_EXTRACT
This could possibly provide the data required. The program can be scheduled and the output can be managed by SPRO settings for Extraction Mode. I am running tests to confirm if it provides me the correct information and matches with MCB) output.
Here are some tables, just for reference:
LTP Tables: PLSC, PBHI, PLPT, MDTP, PLPR, PLPB
MRP Records:
MDKP
MRP Document Header Data
MDTB
MRP Table Structure (no data)
PLSC
Planning Scenario (Long-term Planning)
MDFD
MRP Firming Dates
MDVM
Planning File Entries
S094
LIS -- Stock/Requirements Analysis

Short, medium and long term planning in SNP

Hi,
can somebody explain me what Short, medium and long term planning mean in SNP?
Lets, say I have this scenario:
If I have a product with SNP horizon of 35 days, which means that the product is planned in SNP only after 35 days from today. Only PPDs deals with orders in these 35 days.
I have a 3 planning books
short term with 30 days from today
medium term with 7 months from today and
long term with 2 years from today.
When I say short, medium and long term planning in SNP what exactly happens in these ?? What do users usually do in these books?
SNP horizon is 35 days and the short term book is 30 days long, in which SNP does nothing. What's the use of this book?
Thanks.

When I say short, medium and long term planning in SNP what exactly happens in these ??
Nothing much from a technical stand point.
What do users usually do in these books?
Check the Time Bucket Profile for the different books. The short Term Book will be in days, the mid term in weeks and the long term in months/quarters etc. The different books allows users to see the keyfigures in different time-based aggregate level.
But if Heuristic is executed then behaviour will be different. Remember SNP Location Heuristic run uses the bucket of the data view to compute the Net Requirement and then try creating Receipts in each bucket within the time horizon of the data view using suitable master data. So if you run Location Heuristic in the short Term (daily) view then you will have many receipts one per day most likely. If you run in mid-term Weekly view then there are less number of receipts one receipt per week till 7 months. likewise for the long term view.
SNP horizon is 35 days and the short term book is 30 days long, in which SNP does nothing. What's the use of this book?
Maybe just to see the data. Location Heuristic run will not generate any new receipt.
Thanks,
Somnath

Capacity planning Long-term planning CM38

Hi,
I am using Long-term planning scenario. I have created 12 PIRs for 12 months from January 2010 to December 2010. I executed MRP in MS01 in Lead scheduling Mode.
There are 12 planned orders created for the 12 PIRs for the months Jan to Dec-2010. When I see the planned orders in MS04 the satrt and finish date for the planned orders are showing in respective months beginning.
But when I check capacity in transaction CM38, all the 12 planned order for Jan to December months are displayed in the month of January itself instead of the respective months from Jan to December and the work center is overloaded 199%.
Please suggest to solve this issue.
thanks and regards
Murugesan

Hi,
In customization for Capacity Planning you can define you own selection profiles to work with. You may specify further selection criteria in selection profile and enhance query speed from database. Slection profiles are assigned to overall profiles and overall profiles can be called by CM07 transaction. CM38 is also working over an overall profile which you may learn from SAP help. This can also be changed.
Also check OPC5 to limit max data for selection which might be useful.
Regards.

Sap mm md04 and ms04 stock requirement and long term planning issue

Hi guru's,
i have one issue regarding MD04 and MS04. in MD04 3 storage locations were showing. in that the stock in 2 storage locations was excluded due to no long term plan.
now if we see in ms04, these 2 storage locations are not appearing. now my logistics manager wants to maintain the long term planning for these two also.
in md04,,, 3 storage locations available ..same like ms04 should follow
provide the solution as soon as possible
Thanks & Regards
Prasad.

Mukesh,
To change the forecast from occuring at start of period ( month) you can always select the Schedule line Tab in MD61,MD62. then select period indicator as Day format as shown below
Per. Ind          Date              Qty
D     17.05.2010     30
D     15.06.2010     40
D     15.07.2010     50
System will then plan PIR (forcast) based on dates assigned by user instead of being placed on the first day
of the period. This will prevent forcast to fall into the previous month. Also it will resolve the capacity issue you are facing.
If you have more questions please come back.
thanks,
Ram

Long term Planning - capacity issue

Does any one have a way of running Long Term Planning in SAP.
When checking CM38 for production volumes, the start dates of
the planned orders always fall into the previous month from the
forecast (the monthly forecast is always placed on the first day
of the period and due to lead time scheduling the planned orders
to satisfy that forecast fall into the previous month). If i check the
capacity it show in same month for different month requirment.( it is clubing the requirment)
Though capacity scene was created from June to August , system shows loading from May month.
Month wise loading and availability are shown clubbed in capacity planning sheet.
Thanks in advanc....

Mukesh,
To change the forecast from occuring at start of period ( month) you can always select the Schedule line Tab in MD61,MD62. then select period indicator as Day format as shown below
Per. Ind          Date              Qty
D     17.05.2010     30
D     15.06.2010     40
D     15.07.2010     50
System will then plan PIR (forcast) based on dates assigned by user instead of being placed on the first day
of the period. This will prevent forcast to fall into the previous month. Also it will resolve the capacity issue you are facing.
If you have more questions please come back.
thanks,
Ram

Long-term planning: planning details of work center capacity

Hi,
we need to know what is the effect on planned production orders (generated by MPS, transaction MD40) of the flag “long-term planning” in planning details of work center capacity (table name: RC68K; field name: KAPLPL). We made a test analyzing planned orders scheduling details in Stock requirements list (MD04) and in the Planning table (CM21) in both cases: with "long-term planning" flag set and without this flag for the same work center.
The schedule of planned production order on that work center is the same in the two instance.
Could you suggest us something?
Thank you.

Hi Rudy,
Purpose for carrying out Long Term Planning to simulate impact of Future Demand Program on
u2022 Material Requirements
u2022 Capacity Requirements
u2022 Material Cost budgeting (activity by Accounts dept.)
T.Codes used -
u2022 Demand MD61, MD62, MD63
u2022 Scenario Creation MS31, MS32, MS33
u2022 LTP Variant Creation & Execution MSBT, SM37
u2022 LTP statistics Evaluation SM37, MS04
u2022 Data Set Up MS70, MSB&
u2022 Evaluation based on Set up data MCB), MCEA, MCEB, MCEC
u2022 Capacity Evaluation CM38
To Summarize -
u2022 In long-term planning, production plans for future demand programs are simulated using MRP runs with reference to the planning scenarios.
u2022 The parameters for the simulation in the simulation planning area are defined in the scenario.
u2022 The Evaluation of LTP Statistics enables identification of Material for which LTP processing was terminated.
u2022 The Data set for purchasing & Inventory Control enables reports for demand analysis
u2022 LTP run with setting for u201CLead time scheduling and capacity planningu201D enables simulation of capacity situation/overload on work centers.
Hope it is helpful to you.
Srini

Long-Term Planning (PP-MP-LTP)

Do you know BI content for Long-Term Planning (PP-MP-LTP)?

Not that I know.
Often business people actually mean SOP (BC: 0SOP_PLANNING) when talking about long-term planning. I don't see any point in reporting LTP that is more like alternative MRP scenarios. It is operational and different scenarios easily get confusing in reporting.
BR,Tuomas

Query on Long Term Planning (MS31)

During the creation of long term planning the following steps i followed before i am stuck at one point.
1)T code MS31
2)Planning Scenarion and detail
3)Long term Planning Radio Button selection
4)Planning period +Use Gross Lot Size (EX)
5)BOM Selection ID 01
6)Tab Planned Independent requirement details filled
Now in Plant TAB when i give my plant id the message is REQUIREMENT PLANNING IS NOT ACTIVE FOR MY PLANT CODE.
Message no. 61139
Please tell me how to make it active.
Thanks in advance
Rupesh Jha

Dear Rupesh,
Plz Refer to Mr. Mangalraj inputs on LTP
1.A plannig scenario has to be created for a plant in T code MS31 & for the same Planning scenario
configuration settings has to be made in OPU5 for the planned orders for LTP.
2.Requirements has to be given in MD61 in an inactive version and also after giving the requirements
kindly remove the tick mark against version- active check box.
3.Assign this plan to the planning scenario in MS32,release it and ensure the planning file entries are
entered or created,the same can be checked using MS21.
4.After taking LTP simulation run in MS02(individual material) or MS01 you can see the simulated
planned orders obtained in MS04 T code.
5.These Simulated planned orders can't be converted into production orders or it cant be used for any
business confirmation purpose.
6. For capacity planning analysis,use T Code CM38,
Before that Ensure for all the work centers in CR03 which are used for operation under capacity header
you have included the check box for Long term planning,otherwise in CM38 you can't see any capacity
requirements data.
7.Before executing CM38,ensure under settings---> general you are giving the period settings properly.
Revert back incase of any more clarifications required.
Regards
kumar

Long Term Planning-Planning File Entry

Hi Gurus/Friends
In the long term planning after PIR with inactive version and creating Scenario, assinging versions, Plants,....then
during Release+Save it is giving the Result of Planning File Entries
Logically the system has suppose to give the Number of Planning File Entries in Propotionate to the Specific Planning Scenario number and materials inside
But it is giving for all the Materials inside the Plant
Is there any settings to restrict the Planning File Entry creation w.r.t Planning scenario during Release+Save
other than the solutions through Transaction MS20,MS22 and MSAB
(Because during Release+save logically it has to call the MS22 t.code and do planning file entries for the materials in that scenario)
Awaiting for reply
thanks
K.Prabakaran

Hi,
Please Refer Below SAP help .
*Releasing a planning scenario*
You first have to release a planning scenario before you can plan it in the long-term planning run. When you release the planning scenario, the system creates planning file entries for all materials in all the plants allocated to the planning scenario. There is a separate planning file entry for this purpose. This guarantees that your operative planning is kept completely separate from your simulative planning. This long-term planning file contains all the materials that are also contained in the operative planning file. After the release, every change relevant to MRP triggers an entry in the planning file as in operative planning.
Pradeep
Edited by: Pradeep Kumar on May 9, 2008 4:22 PM

Excluding storage location from MRP run in Long Term Planning

Hi,friends,
In my scenario , i want to exclude storage location from MRP run in long term planning.When i set storage location MRP indicator "2" in SPRO and SLoc MRP indicator "1" MRP4 in material master, i can exclude the storage location after run MRP with MD01/MD02,and i can see the expected result in MD04.But in Long Term Planning scenario the storage location can not be excluded after run MRP with MS01/MS02,and the requirements list in MS04 include the stock in the storage location i want to exclude. i dont know if i miss something.Plz give me some advice.
Regards
Joey

Hi,
Refer the OSS Note 208017 - LTP: Long-term planning and storage locations
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Symptom
In long-term planning (Transactions MSBT / MS01 / MS02 / MS03), the MRP indicator of a storage location for a material is not taken into account (material master, view MRP 2 [up to and including Release 3.1I] or MRP 4 [as of Release 4.0A]).
The storage locations excluded by MRP or planned separately are also planned in the plant segment.
Additional key words
LTP, MM01, MM02, MM03, master data, MRP indicator, LGORT ...
Cause and prerequisites
The MRP indicator for a certain storage location of a material is only taken into account in operative planning (requirements planning, MRP).
The long-term planning occurs exclusively at plant level.
Solution
This is no error. The system works as intended.
The individual storage locations should not be distinguished in the long-term planning, in order to perform a comprehensive long-term planning.
This is important, for example, within the kanban processing where the storage locations with kanban MRP are excluded from the MRP, but in spite of that should be included in the long-term planning.
==========================================================================
Regards,
Siva

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