Looking to Purchase the KN8 Diamond Plus

Wife is being generous this year and allowing me to have our tax refund to build a budge machine which will be mostly geared towards gaming. One question I have about the above Mobo is on newegg is states it has 2x16 PCIE whereas the MSI site lists it as 1x16. Which is correct? The system I have configured and am looking at purchasing is with the following hardware
KN8 Diamond +
AMD Athlon 62 3700+ SanDiego
2 each MSI NX7800GT-VT2D256E cards
OCZ Titanium 2GB (2x1GB) DDR SDRAM 400 3-2-3-5
and finally 2 SATA 2 Drives. Right now looking at Seagate but am open to suggestions. The rest of the hardware will come from a previous machine. I have the Thermaltake 560 W w/Active PFC at present and can upgrade this if it needs to be.
Thanks for any help/suggestions
Pattonsghost

Quote from: Richard on 26-January-06, 00:53:04
As for the PCI-E they are both 16X on the Plus, not that it matters since there is more bandwidth then any current Vid Card can use, so there is little difference in performance.
No doubt.
Single card AGP bus isn't that close to being saturated either. No matter what the card companies would have you think.
Must not be that close - because speculation is high that Nvidia is supposedly going to release a 7800 series card for AGP sometime in February....
Whether or not this actually happens & just how much they "cripple" it like the AGP version of the 6800GS remains to be seen.

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Hi there. Does anybody know phisical dementions of the NX7600GT Diamond Plus and NX7600GS-MTD256E? I'am starting to build my HTPC and have concerns how long those cards are and if they will fit in my Zalman 160 case? Thank you in advance for respond.

Funbringer,
Here is the NX7600GS-MTD256E.
If you look at the picture, you can measure the PCI-E Slot vs the picture to give you the dimentions:
Take Care,
Richard

2 'problems' with the K8N Diamond Plus

Hi there.
I just bought a K8N Diamond Plus and I'm having some troubles installing my system in conjunction to my Decklink Extreme PCI-E ( http://www.decklink.com/products/sd/ ).
Here's my configuration:
MSI K8N Diamond Plus
AMD64 X2 4400+
ROSEWILL 6600GT PCI-E VGA
Decklink Extreme PCI-E
2GB RAM ( 2 x 1gb) Kingston
OCZ-520 12U Modstream Power Supply
plus 6 HD's (7200rpm) and 1 DVD-+RW
The problem is, when I try to initialize the system with the Decklink, which it's a PCI-E 1x, it just don't boot. Neither putting the Decklink on the 1x, nor in the 4x slot and nor in the 16x.
The Decklink is working just fine in another system and doesn't seem to be a problem with this card.
I wondered if there's any limitation in the K8N Diamond Plus with working with the ROSEWILL 6600GT PCI-E VGA plus the Decklink.
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The other thig is that when I take off the Decklink, the system boots normaly but a message appears while booting: "Not enough space to copy PCI option ROM 00:13:00".
And I don't have a clue about what's going on.
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Please enlighten me with this questions if possible.
Thank you very much.
Greets.
Igor Bineli

Remove the battery away for 10 minutes, clear CMOS, start the system to load setup/optimized defauts in bios setup. After that, disable all onboard items in bios setup that you won't to use. Save and exit.
Plug ROSEWILL 6600GT PCI-E VGA card, and start your system to check if there is the error message. If there is, borrow another brand VGA card to do a test.
Besides, update your MB bios and driver version to the latest one.

I am looking to purchase the software, not rent it by the month. Where do I look to do this?

I am looking to purchase the software, not rent it by the month. Where do I look to do this?

Hi Ron ,
Please refer to the following link to get details about the purchase of Acrobat.
http://www.adobe.com/misc/subscription_terms.html
You may also refer to the following link to get more details about the subscription.
https://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/policy-pricing/acrobat-pro-xi-subscription-faqs.html#i d_83547
Hope this will help.
Regards
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Water cooling and the K8N Diamond Plus...

I have a water cooled DFI mobo atm and I want to change it to the K8N Diamond Plus and I noticed that the board has a heat pipe on the northchip and on some other component. My question is this; I want to put a water block on the northchip but I don't know if I can. Can I safely remove the heat pipe setup to put a water block on the north chip and if I do what about the other component that the heatpipe was covering? I hope I wasn't to confusing in the explanation.

Hello !!
You will need two Waterblocks, one for the north- second one for the southbridge.
There should be no Problems mounting the blocks if the mounting holes fit the mainboard.
You can easily remove the Heatpipe. You have to squeeze those nipples togehter tha are on the backside of the board. You can do it manually but you can also use a cylindric tool to squeeze them together. I cut a plastic pen i the half, and pushed it on those mounting latches carefully.
___|\ half pen
latch___ <----
|/ ___________
After this procedure the Heatpipe is only held from the thermal grease on the chipset.
Greetz

Where are the K8N Diamond Plus Boards

I ordered my board from Tiger Last week. Was told they on back orderd...
Went to newegg.com .... out of stock.
Checked about 3 other places I go and they are out of stock. I want a retail box for the MSI Warrantee and all the extras they give you with the board.
Is there a problem with production??

Quote from: Bas on 09-June-06, 23:36:29
Those are not OEM....no way....as MSI doesn't make Diamond Plus OEM boards.....
However, MSI does warrant those boards in full if you can show a proof-of-purchase.
These are NOT OEM.
Anyway, if you don't need the cables and stuff, it's a good deal.
OEM boards have different numbers and BIOS, they are not the same.
If what you said is true, and if I could "buy" the plate for the back of the computer I would do it.
Here is my last chat with Newegg.com
Chat InformationPlease wait while we connect you to a Newegg representative. You are number 2 in the queue.
Chat InformationThank you for contacting Newegg. My name is Allen. How may I assist you today?
Tim: Item #: N82E16813130037R says OEM but MSI does NOT make this board in an OEM version. Is it just safe to assume they are open boxes or retruns?
Allen: this is an open box item/refurbished
Tim: ok, is it possable then that it would come with all the cables and stuff?
Allen: no Sir, just by itself
Allen: has only 15 days for a refund
Allen: no guaranty from manufacturer
Tim: would it be coverd by the MSI 3 year warantee
Allen: I am afraid no
Tim: errr. and if you send it back for a refund is there a "restocking fee?"
Allen: contact us with a reason and we will waive that fee for you
Tim: thanks for your time Allen
Allen: Welcome

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Looking to purchase the RS480M2-IL, but...

I want to build a computer using the RS480M2-IL
It will look like this:
Case: Antec SLK3700BQE
Motherboard: MSI RS480M2-IL
CPU: AMD Athlon64 3000BP socket939 (Venice)
Memory: OCZ400512PDC-K (256Mx2) DDR400
Optical Drive: NEC ND-3520A 16X DVDRW Double Layer
Floppy Drive: Panasonic 1.44MB floppy Black
Hard Drive: Seagate 120G-8MB Buffer
However..... I've been reading up on people having quite a few problems with this board (e.g. randomly freezing when booting, random resets, etc.)
Does everyone have these problems? Can they be easily fixed?
What should I know about this board before i get it.

I couldnt find how many amps the Antec SLK3700BQE powersupply has. Apparently, this motherboard needs a power supply that can support 18amps on the +12 rail (whatever that means).
I looked at this image from newegg ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Showimage.asp?Mode=&Type=&Image=11-129-140-10.jpg%2C11-129-140-08.JPG%2C11-129-140-05.JPG%2C11-129-140-04.JPG%2C11-129-140-03.JPG%2C11-129-140-07.JPG%2C11-129-140-06.JPG%2C11-129-140-09.JPG&CurImage=11-129-140-06.JPG&Description=Antec+Solution+SLK3700-BQE+Black+Steel+ATX+Mid+Tower+Computer+Case+350W+Power+Supply+-+Retail ) and i think it says that it has 16 amps max. Is this a problem?

Is the 7600GT Diamond Plus really HDCP ?

Rumors says that the card is NOT HDCP Compliant, could someone clarify this please ?

Let me quote so you won't have to actually read their page at MSI. LOL
"Geforce 7600GT Chipset Features
• HDMI - High Definition Multimedia Interface Support
HDMI is a new interface standard for PCs, displays and consumer electronics devices that supports standard, enhanced and high-definition video, plus multi-channel digital audio on a single cable. It enables your PC to transmit all HDTV standards that combine HDCP-protected video at resolutions up to 1080p and 8-channel digital audio with 5 Gbps of bandwidth provided."

KN8 Diamond Plus BIOS, here are my settings that seem stable, Ideas Anyone?

So, has anyone figured out exactly what the following settings could/would/should be? I know what they do, I just don't know why some of them should be soft settings or why some of them should ever change (NB-SB-CPU hypertransport for one)
But nonetheless, here's what I set, and it seems to be stable. When I got all these set, SLI seemed to settle down and start working consistently with the EVGA 7800GT CO N517 cards. Before these settings, most games crashed with SLI on, ran fine with it off....who knows
Cell Menu
Cool n Quiet - Disabled
CPU - 215
CPU Ratio - Auto (i.e.11)
CPU Voltage - 1.55 (actual 1.544)
Extra CPU Voltage - 0.1V
Memory
Clock - 1/1
Voltage - 2.95 (Geil Ultra X seems to need this :shocked_anim)
Mem settings 2-2-2-5, 1T (I'll spare you the rest)
PCIE Freq 100.00 (stock)
PCIE Volts - 1.50 (stock)
Hyper Transport
Hyper Transport C51D
K8-NB Freq Auto - Enabled
K8-NB Linkwidth - 16 16
NB-SB Freq - 1000
NB-SB Linkwidth - 16 16
NB Volts - 1.4
NF4-SLI
SB-NB freq - 1000
SB-SB Width - 16 16
DOT control function
All disabled
Spread Spectrum
CPU - Center Spread
PCIE - Enabled
SATA - Enabled
HT - Center Spread

Quote from: LatinPolarBear on 24-February-06, 16:27:45
I agree with Apple Renegade on the Spread Spectrum settings. I remember reading that Spread Spectrum can conflict with wireless devices when you've got an 802.11 rig.
Quote from: Apple renegade on 23-February-06, 22:28:21
Put all the "Spread spectrum" stuff on disabled. U don't need it. The option is there cus of possible interference with radio's and cell phones nearby.
Quote from: nanohead on 23-February-06, 22:05:59
CPU - 215
correct me if i'm wrong, but spread spectrum is disables itself if you increase the FSB. and, wireless devices work fine with the spread spectrum enabled (i got a 802.11g wi-fi card in the rig and i didn't have any problems with it)

Apparently the K8N Diamond Plus doesn't exist.

Something's wrong here...
...But at least they've got cool blinking arrows next to the selection tree!
I'm so sick of companies that live in fantasyland...

Check the Archive section.
http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=proddesc&prod_no=232&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=&cat3_no=

HELP!, Does the K8N DIAMOND PLUS run winxp pro 64 bit?

My motherboard cd says it doesnt support my operating system when I try ti install it for the first time.

Thanks Russ_xp, this is what I had to do. The MSI website is VERY SLOW down loading anything!!!!!!!!!!!

MSI K8N Diamond Plus - Guide to my first week

OK, not a newb here, but been around the block quite a bit. MSI K8N Diamond Plus is my 5th A64 mobo (ECS K8M800, my daily undestroyed computer, K8T800, my 12 year olds gamer, Asus A8V Deluxe, first 939 system, Abit AN8 SLI, first SLI gamer, and now the MSI Diamond Plus). Had the KDP (K8N Diamond Plus) for more than a week now, and here's what I've learned.
This is state of the art again, and we have no one to blame but ourselves for the pain this causes us when we upgrade like lunatics
And as usual, the drivers and BIOS are al Dente (i.e. not cooked enought yet, a little raw)
MSI is also oddly silent on this system, which is wierd, as they are a large company, and specifically cater to enthusiasts. But their BIOS guys are MIA. Hopefully this will not be forever. Asus, ABIT, DFI, Epox are always fast with fixes
The board is a nice design, with everything basically accessible, as much as any other board. Lots of purposeful components, not too many dumb frills. No tooty fruity colors, but rather practical parts.
The new 2 piece NForce chipset is fine, and the MSI guys gave us a decent, but funky cooler. It gets a little warm to the touch when you pound on it with Prime95, or Quake4, but other than that it is fine
The manual has a zillion typos, and fortunately for us in this forum, we have shared what we've learned. The translation from Chinese to English leaves quite a bit to be desired, and hopefully, MSI will learn from Asus and Abit and get a better translation service. In 2006 this is just plain stupid, especially with a $225 board
As usual, the mobo supplied tweaker utilities are just aweful. They look like a hallucination from a Hunter S Thompson book, and they work about as well. Core center is a sad state of affairs, and the rest of them just burrow their way into your otherwise stable system and cause it to have poor behavior. And therefore as usual, the BIOS is the best way, if slowest, to tweak this bundle of parts
Which brings us to the BIOS. IMHO, the worst one I've seen on a high end board. ZERO explanation for half the settings (this is not strange in and of itself, BIOS is still a black art, but in a tweakers board, we should have some basic explanation )
There seem to be adequate settings in the BIOS for all sorts of doodads and gizmos, but who the heck knows what half of them are. Roger points out rightfully, that we now need to "Tune" across all these different intermediary bus structures and test. But with the lack of info from either NVidia, MSI or anyone else for that matter, its kinda hard to know where to start.
The board is clearly sensitive, which is a result of it being high strung. This is no different than any "first out" product I've ever bought. Most take 2 or 3 turns of the crank to get totally stable and forgiving. This one hated my OCZ platinum EL 2Gb kit memory, and it brought out the worst in one of the SLI based EVGA 7800 GT COs. These components worked in the Abit AN8 SLI (although not always great), but the MSI has ZERO tolerance for even the slightest pertubation from the memory. It was BSOD city until I removed both of these components by process of elimination that took probably 100 hours
Once I removed the bad components, and replaced the memory with Geil Ultra X 2x512 2-2-2-5, it worked great, ran Prime95 for 10 hours with no errors, and seems reasonably stable. I've RMA-d the bad 7800GT CO back to EVGA, and will report back on how SLI behaves when I get the new one (cross shipped of course, I haveno patience )
I also now need to replace the 2Gb RAM kit with something that the board will tolerate. I may RMA the 2Gb kit back to OCZ and try another one, but I dunno. I love OCZ but I have a bad feeling about this, even though they have great!!! support. I may try OCZ PC4000 or the RAM that Roger successfully used.
I did upgrade to the 1.16 BIOS, and found that some new things were added, as well as voltage control in Cell was a little better, but registration of changes in voltage is still a disaster. I adjusted a bunch of times, it didn't register, and I ended up smoking a new A64 3700+ Diego with 1.95 volts, even though the BIOS claimed it was 1.53. I had to rebot to see what was going on. The Thermalright XP-90 kept the proc from melting down through the earth
Finally, I hope this board attracts more people, and therefore more tweakers that can figure out all these gadgets and settings. Everyone flocked to the Asus X16 SLI product, which is too bad, as this one needs lots o' folks to hack it up for us to figure out what is going on.
The on board Creative audio sounds lousy to my ears, and I will replace it with an Audigy 2ZS gamer that I had in the Abit. It just sounds better, but hopefully the drivers will not trash my newly stable system. Creative scares me, they scare me alot.
I've been able to get the CPU up to 2.4Ghz, with a .5 volt bump to the CPU and 2.9 volts into the Geil memory. So far, so stable, no smoke coming out yet
I hope this info is somewhat valuable to someone on this board. I will post details of all changes that I make, as others are doing, so we can at least take care of ourselves with this thing.

Quote from: nanohead on 15-February-06, 01:17:10
Which brings us to the BIOS. IMHO, the worst one I've seen on a high end board. ZERO explanation for half the settings (this is not strange in and of itself, BIOS is still a black art, but in a tweakers board, we should have some basic explanation )
There seem to be adequate settings in the BIOS for all sorts of doodads and gizmos, but who the heck knows what half of them are. Roger points out rightfully, that we now need to "Tune" across all these different intermediary bus structures and test. But with the lack of info from either NVidia, MSI or anyone else for that matter, its kinda hard to know where to start.
first of all, i do think that all the settings in the BIOS have an explanation in the manual, even if it's a basic one. if that explanation doesn't tell you everything in detail, is because if you do need a detailed explanation of the settings, you probably shouldn't be messing around with those settings.
Quote from: nanohead on 15-February-06, 01:17:10
I did upgrade to the 1.16 BIOS, and found that some new things were added, as well as voltage control in Cell was a little better, but registration of changes in voltage is still a disaster. I adjusted a bunch of times, it didn't register, and I ended up smoking a new A64 3700+ Diego with 1.95 volts, even though the BIOS claimed it was 1.53. I had to rebot to see what was going on. The Thermalright XP-90 kept the proc from melting down through the earth.
wanna tell me how did you get 1.95V on that mobo?
Quote from: nanohead on 15-February-06, 01:17:10
I've been able to get the CPU up to 2.4Ghz, with a .5 volt bump to the CPU and 2.9 volts into the Geil memory. So far, so stable, no smoke coming out yet
a 0.5V bump? again, you must be joking. maybe 0.05V.

Power supply needed for MS-7220 (Diamond Plus) and others.

The following statement is taken form the K8B Diamond Plus Manual.
For ATX 12V power connection, it should be greater than 18A.
If I am interpreting correctly, the ATX 12V connector should have dedicated to it a minimum of 18A.
My first, question is if the Power Supply has two or more rails, how do you know the power dedicated to the ATX 12 connector on the Power Supply?
Second, if a +12V rail is not dedicated the connector, how do you know what is connected to each rail of the Power Supply?
This maybe the source of why many are saying, they have more stable system performance when using single rail Power Supplies.
I have tried eleven different manufactures to get more detailed Power Supply specifications, but no responses; today through February 1st is the Chinese New Year.
Those of you running the K8B Diamond Plus, what are you using for Power Supplies and are you having any instability problem?
One thing I did find curious was that going the manuals and in most all of the newer Socket 939 motherboards have this specification, but nothing in the motherboards specifications of on the MSI Web Site about this required and the are a lot of 500-600 Watt power supplies sold that do not meet this specification.
The statement Total Wattage does not mean a thing has even more meaning to me now.
Are we going to have to know the Current Rating of each cable on the output of a Power Supply now to insure we are purchasing the correct Power Supply?
Roger

Roger
Ihave a Tagan 580w U22 with switchable dual/combined +12v rails and it is very stable,set it combined for 35a.
Only thing to ponder was the 4/8 pin +12v/p4 connector,power supply has the correct split 2x4pin connectors so does the board but there is a little removable cover over 4 pins,so thinking MSI fitted it there for a reason I have fitted only one 4 pin connector,no problems as yet.
Think you may well have a point re the 18a.
I have just given my son my old sli platinum/cpu/heatsink/ram/vga card,this setup ran 250/11/4 @ 1.4v & ram 2.5 3 3 7 1.1 @ 2.75v with the Tagan.this setup now fitted in his case but with a dual 18a rail Enermax and he can't o/c stable to the old settings.Case has better cooling than the wavemaster it all came from.
Dont think the enermax is bad just that it supplies the power a different way.
Regards
Rossoevo

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