Loss of all online redo logs

Hello,
I have been practicing backup and recovery.
How can I recover my database after loss of all online redolog files while the database was open.
Oracle version:-10.2.0.1
OS:- Win(32 bit)
Database is in archive log mode.
Have taken user managed hot as well as cold backup of the database prior to this test.

Try http://www.oracle.com/pls/db102/search?remark=quick_search&word=Loss+of+Online+Redo+Logs&tab_id=&format=ranked
http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B19306_01/backup.102/b14191/recoscen.htm#i1006564
http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B19306_01/backup.102/b14191/recoscen.htm#CACFFJFB
Hemant K Chitale
Edited by: Hemant K Chitale on May 4, 2011 11:34 AM

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startup mount
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C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.2.0\ORADATA\ORA101RC\DATA01.DBF
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Javid wrote:
Although i have removed current online redo log file in linux os (Oracle Linux),when i type "commit" it says that "commit complete".
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I think that it can lead to loss of data in some cases..I'm using Oracle 11g R2 on OEL (x64)..
Can anyone explain me ? I'm getting stuck in this situation..
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Hi,
"Old" Oracle standard is to use as many spindles as possible.
It looks to me, you have only 1 disk with several partitions on it ??
In my honest opinion you should anyway start by physically seperating OS from Oracle, so let the C: drive to the Windows OS
Take another physical seperate D: drive to install you application.
Use yet another set of physical drives, preferably in RAID10 setup, for your database and redo logs
And finally yet another disk for the archive logs.
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The machine, or must I say the database, operates like a high speed train, very, very fast.
Ofcourse keep in mind the number of cores ( not only for licensing ) and the amount of memory.
Try to prevent the system from swapping, because that is a performance killer!
Edit: And even if you put a virtual layer in between, try to seperate the virtual disks as much as possible over physical disks
Success!
FJFranken
Edited by: fjfranken on 7-okt-2011 7:19

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FZheng:
Thanks for your input. It is clear that we need 3 type of redo logs on both databases. You answer my question.
But I have another one. In oracle ducument, it says If you have configured a standby redo log on one or more standby databases in the configuration, ensure the size of the current standby redo log file on each standby database exactly matches the size of the current online redo log file on the primary database. It says: At log switch time, if there are no available standby redo log files that match the size of the new current online redo log file on the primary database. The primary database will shut down
My current one data gurard envirnment setting is: On primary DB, online redo log group size is 512M and standby redo log group size is 500M. On the standby DB, online redo log group size is 500M and standby redo log group size is 750M.
This was setup by someone I don't know. Is this setting OK? or I should change Standby Redo Log on standby DB to 512M to exactly meatch with redo log size on primary?
Edited by: 853153 on Jun 22, 2011 9:42 AM

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In my organisation recently standby database has been configured. Now my task is to restore a full online+redo backup which is created in primary database in the standby database. Once it is over I have to apply the newly created redo logs generated after the online backup.
I am planning to restore the online+redo backup using the following command
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Hello Tapan,
> brrestore -b "BRBACKUP log file" -m full. Once it is done I have to apply the online redo logs.
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Hi,
Version 11202.
Primary on machine A
Standby on machine B
Following note: 11.2 Data Guard Physical Standby Switchover Best Practices using SQL*Plus [ID 1304939.1].
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2)
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I have used my note many times in production.
For example they needed to do some power work on the main server room a few months back on the weekend.
We did switchovers until the work was complete and then a switch back.
I wrote a short document called "Switchover post-mortem lessons" the main point from that was :
1.
getting ORA-01017 issues in Oracle forms ( Application ) after the switchover to standby.
The issue was caused by the Standby database having a different parameter for passwords than the Primary database.
This did not show up in testing because all the tester we used had converted passwords from Oracle 10.
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When in doubt issue this on the new Primary :
SQL>ALTER SYSTEM SET SEC_CASE_SENSITIVE_LOGON = FALSE;
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The query to check switch_over status was returning "LOG SWITCH GAP"
select switchover_status from v$database;
This is an issue because Oracle says the return values should be one of these :
NOT ALLOWED
SESSIONS ACTIVE
SWITCHOVER PENDING
SWITCHOVER LATENT
TO PRIMARY
TO STANDBY
RECOVERY NEEDED
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SELECT
NAME AS STANDBY,
SEQUENCE#,
APPLIED,
COMPLETION_TIME
FROM
V$ARCHIVED_LOG;
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SQL>ALTER SYSTEM SWITCH LOGFILE;
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Redo log file contents is very dynamic. It changes minute after minute, so a backup is useless if you try to do it online. (In fact there is no command to perform such backup).
Let's suppose you shutdown (normal, immediate or transactional) The contents of the redo log files become useless as the checkpoint process has already taken place, so it is enough to have a copy of all of the consistent datafiles to have the last applied transaccion.
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In case of a missing logfile it is useless to have a backup of it. If you ever had one, and you tried to restore it, an error would arise, warning you that the contents of the logfile is inconsistent with the expected scn. The only way you can succeed is to have them multiplexed and have them on different paths, just to reduce to probability of loosing all of the members of a group.
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Online Redo logs instead of Standby Redo logs

RDBMS Version: 11.2.0.3/Platform : RHEL 6.3
To migrate a 3TB Database to a new DB server , we are going to use RMAN DUPLICATE.
Step1. Take full backup of DB + Standby Control file at primary site and transfer the Bkp files to Standby site
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So, Can I skip the Standby Redo log creation part and create Online redo logs instead ?
As mentioned earlier, Our objective is not to create a proper Dataguard Standby DB setup. We just want to clone our DB to another server using RMAN Duplicate.

Tom wrote:
RDBMS Version: 11.2.0.3/Platform : RHEL 6.3
To migrate a 3TB Database to a new DB server , we are going to use RMAN DUPLICATE.
Step1. Take full backup of DB + Standby Control file at primary site and transfer the Bkp files to Standby site
Step2. At standy site, we will run the RMAN duplicate target database for standby
After the above step, we don't want to create the standby redo logs because the newly restored DB in standby server is going to be the new Prod DB which application will be pointing to.
So, Can I skip the Standby Redo log creation part and create Online redo logs instead ?
As mentioned earlier, Our objective is not to create a proper Dataguard Standby DB setup. We just want to clone our DB to another server using RMAN Duplicate.
Hi,
Take full backup of DB + Standby Control
We just want to clone our DB to another server using RMAN Duplicate
If you want only clone database of production, why you are take Standby controlfile?
If you don't want create standby database then, why you using DUPLICATE command with FOR STANDBY option.
You can use DUPLICATE command for clone database, without for standby option.
If you say no, we want create standby database and we will perform swithover,
then yes, you can use online redo logs for max performance mode.
and you can create standby redo logs on all database, but this redo logs will use by database when database role
is standby.
Regards
Mahir M. Quluzade

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Hi All,
Oracle version : 10.2.0.4
OS : SunOS 5.10 Generic_118855-36 i86pc i386 i86pc
This might be a silly question for the experts :(
We are having 2 standby databases and 1 logical database. Everything is running fine , I have one confusion : My primary server having 3 online redo log files and 3 standby redo log files (on primary local), but as per the architecture standby redo logs should be on standby server.My question is whether standby redo logs on standby are online redo logs of standby server or standby redo logs of primary server. e.g If i perform a log switch on primary then what is the role of sync and affirm, will lgwr write parallel on online redo logs ,standby redo logs (of primary) or online redo logs (of primary) and online redo logs (which is known as standby redo logs on standby ). Please help me to understand the scenerio.
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A standby redo log is used only when the database is in the standby role to store redo data received from the primary database. Standby redo logs form a separate pool of log file groups.
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A standby redo log is required to implement:
• The maximum protection and maximum availability levels of data protection
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