Loss of Sound volume on Guitar Amp recorded track...

Help!
I have recorded my Guitar via the Guitar Amp amd played over an imprted song. During recording all sound levels are fine. When I switch to the 'timeline' and track view, the imported song track performs OK but the recorded Guitar track is barely audible... I assume it is something I am doing.. any sugestions? I use the iRig to connect to my iPad.

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Hello, new member and new to recording with garageband!
I would like to capture the live sound of my guitar amp using garageband. I know there are many modelling and FX options using GB, but I really want to hear how my amp sounds.
I'm using the following:
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Any quick tips would be appreciated, please and thanks!

Your setup should be getting excellent results.
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I think, tongue-in-cheek Pancentre is making a valid point that you're not going to get that 'classical' sound too easy you need a warm acoustic sound going in. However, let me explain:
Logic (In fact 99% of music software) can be expanded via plugins. On the Mac/OSX these are called Audio Units. 2 Of the big players for guitarists is Native Instruments (NI) Guitar Rig, and IK's Amplitude.
Guitar Rig is an all-in-one solution which can be used with a guitar pedal controller which controls the software. It's got tons of options, standard presets and loads more scattered around the internet. Anything from experimental, through to Jazz and Death metal you can get from that, it's very flexible.
Acoustic emulation/simulation is basically a series of effects and EQ's in Guitar Rig/Amplitube/Logic which will provide you with an acoustic/warm sound. Basically, it's job is to raise the low frequencies and remove the mids (At least that's how i have to process mine) and place a bit of delay/reverb on the high frequencies to create space. But you never will recreate that wonderful sound of a classic guitar 'pushing air' by plugging an electric in and running it through an acoustic simulator.
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Personally, i think it's part of the enjoyment coming up with a sound which helps you play, and sounds 'right'. These plugins, and guitar simulators are so straight forward too, they've invested a lot of development into making them act like the real thing.

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Output levels into Guitar Amp

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Guitar Amp & Pedalboard roundup from a guitarist....

After receiving my copy of L9 early, I delved straight in to the Guitar Amps which was one of the main attractions to the upgrade. I thought I'd round up my thoughts for anyone who might be interested...
Firstly, in terms of ease of use, visibility and CPU it obviously integrates much better than the likes of Guitar Rig (not that there's anything wrong with GR in this respect but...): there's just a more 'hands on' feel here, and the integration is as we'd expect from a Logic plugin. Saving and creating amps is easy and will render this a good option for playing live without the occasional risk involved with 3rd party stuff.
I would probably have to say that to my ears and playing style, on the whole, the sound quality, tones and modeling was at least equal to, if not better than GR (I've not used Amplitude). I'm tempted to say better than, but I probably need more time with it. Also there are some other issues which I'll come to in a minute. On the whole though the sounds were very convincing and the range and diversity of amps is spot on. They each have the characteristics you'd expect, and are distinct enough from each other to give you a lot of choice.
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I personally use clean sounds 80% of the time, and I long for that transparent ringing clean sound of the likes of Gilmour and those Fender sounds (I'm using a Strat too which is particularly suited to it). But once again I'm not yet convinced. The problem seems to be a combination of sustain (or lack of) and tube/gain power (virtual anyway).
In order to achieve those strong clean sounds from a Fender amp or a Vox you have to boost the gain on the clean channels pretty high before they break (which you can because many have dedicated clean channels). This allows the tube to get nice and warm and deliver the power needed to provide those rich sustains, whilst maintaining a clean sound.
But in Logics new amps, there are no channel selections between clean and distorted, meaning that the gain control, is your gain control for both clean and distorted. Subsequently they tend to break up at around 4-5 and become crunchy, before being quite distorted at around 6-7 and full on thereafter. I felt this didn't give a massive range to play with on the clean side and meant that they felt weak. On a decent Fender amp, you'd expect clean sustain to ring for quite a while, whereas here they would ring off quite quickly and sound a little thin.
I should probably emphasize that this is perhaps purely personal taste, as they had a good tone, but I wasn't quite able to coax the richness out of it that I know I can from certain amps (that are modeled here).
On that note, it's a slightly curious thing that they went to a lot of trouble to make the amps look authentic, but the setup and dials on each amp are not as you'd find them on the real models. In fact it appears every single amp model has exactly the same controls, including mod/reverb effects which do not exist on many amps. Quite why they did this when these effects can easily be applied elsewhere is odd, but by no means a real problem. It just means that they don't necessarily behave as you'd expect the real amps to. Dual channel options on some amps would have been a very good idea, and I don't imagine it's something they'll add at a later date.
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Marks out of 10? I'd say 8 right now, but I might well change my mind after more experimentation. It could go either way, as my quest for that perfect clean sound continues...!
Message was edited by: siderealxxx

Nice review. I can't comment on the clean sounds so much because for me the true test of authentic modeled tone is in the warm tube sound. I own GTR3, Guitar Rig, and several of the Amplitube products and of those GTR3 is the standout in terms of extremely realistic warm tube tone. Amplitube is very close. Guitar Rig has never had a very satisfying warm tube sound to me.
In terms of how much the tones resemble actual warm tubes, I would put Amp Modeler well above Guitar Rig and just a tiny bit shy of Amplitube and GTR3. Just a tiny bit though--all three would be good choices for recording a realistic warm tone. Couldn't say the same for Guitar Amp Pro.
I agree on the oddity that the various amp models don't necessarily have the same controls as the originals. Whether that's good or bad depends on what you're going for. If I want a totally realistic Fender Twin sound from a plugin, I'm sure Amplitube will still be my first choice. If I want to wrap myself inside a warm glass tube and just live there, I'll go with GTR3. If I want to create my own tone from scratch, I would definitely start with Amp Modeler.
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As for ease of use here is where Amp Modeler and Pedalboard really shine. The whole approach to selecting, swapping, tweaking and routing pedals seems to me the most intuitive of any of the guitar sims I have worked with.
So I'd have to say although it won't replace Amplitube or GTR3 it is a worthy part of my amp sim arsenal. I think I'll end up creating some channel strips with GTR3 amps and the Pedalboard as my go-to setup for recording, and for everyday jamming plan to get the GiO and use MainStage, Amp Modeler and Pedalboard for that.

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