Lossless codec in imovie 09

Hi,
I have created several slideshows in imovie 09, which I now want to burn in a DVD to be viewed on a plasma TV.
There is an obvious problem in this process and the key word is de-interlacing.
Photo slideshows are progressive in nature. DVDs are intrelaced. Plasma TV's progressive as well. It's silly, but it has to be a dvd, because it's a present and it can't come with a BD player or a media player or put on youtube.
To ad to this comes compressing and re-compressing (jpeg,mov,dvd)
So, I am only trying to get the best possible results, which I know won't be perfect.
(Sorry for the long intro but it helps sometimes)
01.So, what codec can I use in imovie for lossless quality?
02.What is the best codec in imovie for images and slideshows
03.Is there a way to keep the video progressive? (I tryed exporting as DV progressive but it keeps coming with errors and just won't export)
thank you in advance

I would not mess around with deinterlacing; TVs today can deinterlace perfectly well themselves. You may cause more problems by trying to deinterlace with the software. Unless there are problems, a progressive image can be put onto an interlaced medium (as you correctly pointed out that DVDs are always interlaced) and the disc should be flagged automatically to be displayed as progressive, if you have a progressive scan DVD player. And if your DVD player is not progressive, then any TV today will display properly anyway.
So just be sure to export to a progressive format. Try Photo Jpeg and see if there are any problems when viewed *on an actual TV*.
And of course, this process is not "lossless" with respect to your photos. As you know, video is very low resolution compared to photos. But people are used to TVs, and usually do not notice how low-definition pictures are, as long as they are viewed on an actual TV.
I don't think DV can ever be progressive, by I am not sure.

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