Lost email messages after rebuild

This all started when I was trying to help my friend setup a rule for moving messages to and from specific people to a specific folder. Worked all well, but for some reason bunches of old messages started showing the "not downloaded from server" error. So, per Apple and this discussion boards advice I "rebuilt" all of the mailboxes. This fixed the not downloaded issue, but any messages older than one week are now missing from the inbox and sent mail folders. I tried all of the advised techniques...reran rebuild and deleted envelope index file and imported mailboxes...nothing worked. I tried looking at the .emlx files as well and there aren't any older than one week in the inbox or sentbox folders. My friend is (justifiably) freaking out. Any NEW advice? I was thinking of running DataRescue or DiskWarrior to see if I could recover and deleted or missing .emlx files.
System is a PowerMac G5 1.8ghz, Mac OS 10.4.10, Mail 2.1. Also, none of the mailboxes is even close to approaching mails MB limits. Email account is a POP account and has been setup for at least a few years.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Have you tried searching for the missing messages in Spotlight (not in Mail)?
If the .emlx files aren’t there, rebuilding mailboxes or re-creating the index isn’t going to make them reappear. If the messages are not on the server either and you don’t have a backup, you may want to try to salvage as many deleted .emlx files as possible with a data recovery tool such as Data Rescue II or FileSalvage. Of these, the only one I know for sure that can currently recover deleted .emlx files is FileSalvage. Stop using the computer right now if you want to try that, as anything you do with it may cause the deleted files to be overwritten.

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