Lot size in MTO

Hi Experts,
I am using strategy 20, my FG batch size is 100 and i have a sale order of 120. I want the system to create 2 planned orders of 100 and 20. I tried with lot size EX and maximum lot size 20, but system made a single planned order of 120. Have i made any mistake, how can i address my requirement ? Please advise.
Best regards
Sm.

Dear ,
In MTO process , sales order qty can't not be spillited beacause , MRP system will not generate planned order detail scheduling to match the Schedule Delivery Date in Sales Order line item .
If you maintain lot size as EX and max lot size is 100 for the quantity of 120,system will create total 2 planned orders.Out of 2 numbers 1 will be with qty 100 and second one will be 20.In OMI4 open the details screen of the lot size which u are using
in the details screen there is a indicator LAST LOT EXACT now if u tick this indicator then the system will create the last lot exact
Basically , your requirement can be done through MTS which will possible .
Hope it is clear
Regards
JH

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