Lot size Key without splitting Quota

Hi,
Can any one explain me what is the use of Lot size Key without splitting Quota.
We had created a lot size Key - XY with following seting:-
1) Lotsize Proceed = P
2) Lotsize indicator -K
3) Scheduling =2
4) No of periods = 1
5) Splitting Quota = Not checked(blank)
If we had configured this lot size key, what is the benefits of the above setting, What testing need to be done to know whether this lot size key is working perfectly after configuration?.
Thanks in advance

Hi,
If splitting quota indicator not set, then qouta arrangement is not used during planning wrt to selected lot size.
Lot size procedure you selected, it is a periodic lot sizing procedure. Here the system groups several requirements within a time interval together to form a lot.
Lot size indicator Determines how the lot size is calculated for a certain lot-sizing procedure during material requirements planning. For your selection system creates lot size by refereing to planning calender defined in the system
Scheduling -
This indicator defines the time in the period the system is to create the availability date or the start date for the lot for period
lot-sizing procedures.
The availability date is the date on which the material, including the goods receipt processing time, is available again. In the MRP list, the availability date is equal to the MRP date.
In in-house production, the start date is the order start date, in external procurement the start date is the release date.
according to your selection - Availability date at period end
No of periods - 1
Run a complete MRP cycel to check whether it is working properly or not.
Post the results what you get.
Regards,
Pavan

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