Lots of "Cleaning Up" during render -- problem?

If I twirl open the triangle thingy during a certain project, there's a lot of "cleaning up" stages. What is this? Is it bad?

I doubt you could really optimize it. You could try to pre-compose some of the glows in cropped comps (if they only affect certain parts of the image and that is feasible), so this way you can limit the dilation/ expansion of pixels in all directions, but that's probably as good as it gets. As an alternative you can of course always find alternate third-party effects for such things, which may prove more processing and memory friendly. E.g. Sapphire has several different glow plugins. Or you use tools like Magic Bullet Looks that have internal diffusion/blur/glow operators running on the graphics card...
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As I understand it (and I could well be wrong), if I render a PPro project that has AE projects dynamically linked in (anything from simple lower thirds to color grading), during rendering the AE bits run as a service, which limits the AE bits to a single CPU and effectively stops simultaneous rendering of multiple frames. This is why I can get very high render times (essentially no parallel processing), and why messing with the number of CPUs allowed for simultaneous frame rendering, or the amount of RAM said CPUs can access, has little to no effect on total render time.
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Has this been done in CS6? If not, any idea when that's scheduled to happen?

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(I do wish Adobe staff would keep this distinction mind when creating their videos. When I saw one about the new background rendering in PP, I was interested, only to learn that he was actually talking about background exporting, a feature PP has had since AME was introduced in CS4.)
The distinction is not so distinct, and this is an industry issue, not really Adobe. After Effects has a render queue, which is used for exporting, but you can also export. Lightwave has this, even Avid. The terms do have their own distinct meanings, but of course context is usually required. So usually "rendering previews" or "rendering final output" serve as context-sensitive uses of the term.
Terminology abuse is widespread, even people with video cameras now call themselves "filmmakers" and people who produce films never shown nor intended for a cinema call themselves "cinematographers." ENG video producers are called "photogs" and news photographers are called "photojournalists."
Transcoding, encoding, rendering, exporting....mish-mashed unfortunately, but thankfully most people can figure out what's meant.
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Most professionals online seem to think so. Also - will rendering of heavy effects and color grading take longer using this method because it's having to convert h.264 media to ProRes during render?
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Fault bucket 1848500921, type 1
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