Love my iBook G4

Sorry I couldn't resist a little boasting. I don't have a support question. Just wanted to encourage anyone with a vintage Mac to be gentle with it. They are stil good machines.
I needed to print a document from my MacBook Air. Spooling but no print. I treid with the iBook. Got an error message instructing me to change the color cartridge and try again. I did and the print worked immediately.
I would have been troubleshooting the printer all night. Really love this Book. MBA is wonderful too but don't give up on older Macs. They don't do everything but they do what they do very well.

I use them mostly for web browsing, email, eNewspaper reading, occasional PC program, and a few older games.
I kept the iBook on OSX 10.4.11 so I can have the use of Classic Environment. I find this useful for accessing and converting my older ClarisWorks/AppleWorks files that can't be opened with IWork 08. I also found that I can run RealPC with Windows 95 to play with some old PC fractal programs. Its slow but nostalgic.
The PowerBook G4 is on Mac OS X 10.5.8 and is the best PPC machine for doing any real work with Pages and Numbers. It has Virtual PC 6 with Windows XP for a bit quicker fractal rendering than the iBook.
The MacBook has Mac OS X 10.6.8 installed and is my second in command so to speak. I have a BootCamp partition with Windows XP which I use for old Windows Games like Half-Life and Morrowind.
Win 95 on iBook.

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Downloaded iBooks on my Macbook Pro but when I tried to sync it on my iPhone, this appeared: "Are you sure you want to sync books? All existing songs, movies and TV shows on the iPhone "My iPhone" will be removed". Love the iBooks as well as music. HELP!

Downloaded iBooks on my Macbook Pro but when I tried to sync it on my iPhone, this appeared: "Are you sure you want to sync books? All existing songs, movies and TV shows on the iPhone “My iPhone” will be removed". Love the iBooks as well as music. I really don't want to loose my music. HELP!!!

From the message you are receiving, it sounds like you either, 1) haven't synced your iPhone with that computer before, 2) are using two different iTunes accounts, or 3) both. If you have purchased music or movies through your iPhone with a certain iTunes account and purchased books through iBooks on your MacBook through a different iTunes account then there is no having both on the phone.
Apple doesn't allow content from two different accounts on a device at the same time. Also if two "libraries" have been created, one on the iPhone and one on the Macbook then syncing will erase data that is not associated with that particular library.
If you are using the same iTunes account for both, then you should be able to redownload any purchased items (music, books, etc.) from iCloud, assuming you have set that up.
I hope this helps!

IBooks not updating via cloud...

Here's the situtation: I've got a retina iPad running latest IOS and iBooks. I have roughly 780 books little to no pdfs due to the ongoing pdf errors of not loading.
I've updated to mavericks. Open ibooks app it transfered about 715 books over.
I found about 80 books show the icloud icon next to them.
So I selected all and pressed update.
It downloaded them then I got errors about books not being able to be downloaded.
They're still in iBooks and readbable but if I want to update them I have to go into ibooks's search bar and search by name or author and update them one at a time.
Meanwhile the edit button is loading for a good 2-3 minutes as well so I have to ask:
1. What can I do besides doing these updates by hand?
2. Who do we have to sleep with to get some IOS 7 love into iBooks? Judging from the threads I think the app needs an overhaul.
I spend the time switching formats but I can't stand Amazon's UI...

As you have seen the "fixes" are an indicator that your problem exists and Apple may or may not have had feedback enough yo address this in a later update.
Meanwhile, as I have written previously, IF the process you are using does not auto update and your latest book holds all the "old" information plus the update....why do you/they need to keep it on their device?
If you have sent a new book using Dropbox to one or all of those intended to have it, and they open Dropbox and select the book to be opened in iBooks and it does not auto update and you prefer not to use the fixes suggested, basically the last option you have is for the recipients to delete the old book first.
The other option which will give you auto updates....is to deliver your book via the iBookstore and if you do not have a free books account, its easy to open one.I suggest an account for the books and separate from your own account.
Its an easy process to initially deliver your first book to the store and once online, you simply deliver your update when you its ready and allow a few days for it to be reviewed. That way everybody gets auto update of your manual.
If having your book in the store and available, is a problem..you restrict availability to your country only.
If being available to outsiders is a problem, then you have to do decide which option suggested you prefer.

Is the batery of 12" g4 iBook ever under warranty?

My daughter's iBook purchased last October developed a non-charging issue. First it would charge part way and then none. The Genius's first replaced the power cord, then the power adapter, and finally the motherboard. Now after being at Apple for 2 weeks, she is told that it is the battery and the battery is not under warranty. Should not the battery be the first suspect. And did the battery die in Apple's caring hands? And now thay say it isn't under warranty.
Eight months old and less than 100 hours running on the battery alone!?
What gives?

I did not know that batteries weren't under warranty, but they should be. Apple had a battery exchange program a while back for certain laptops. Judging by the time of your purchase, I don't think yours would fall into this category. I bought mine last August and thankfully no issues yet. I did purchase a new battery from eBay just to have as a backup. It only cost me $40. I hope everthing works out for your daughter. I love my iBook and would be equally as frustrated if I were in your shoes. The link is to the battery exchange program in case you want to see what I'm talking about. Take care.
https://depot.info.apple.com/batteryexchange/index.html

My iBook story

Well i went to the apple store today to have it sent in. I just couldnt live with the crooked lid. Well, heres what happend
The guy at the genius bar asked if it had been carried in a bag, i said no. Then he said it was caused by pushing the screen all the way back as far as it could go (*** who does that?? At this point its obvious hes grasping at straws) then said it wasnt covered under warrenty. I told him i had just been in a few days before and was told it could be fixed. He then grilled me for exact times/names or people i talkled to (who actually askes for names???) and when i couldnt remember exactly, he accused me of abusing my iBook telling me abuse isnt covered. I told him it's never even left my desk, and he says "i find that hard to believe". I wanted to punch him on the spot, but its not worth getting arrested over. I was like "are you accusing me of lying?" he said "im just being honest" .I should have said "well to be honest, your an *******".
I'll keep my iBook, but ill never EVER reccommend apple. Pay more then a grand to get an sloppily assembled piece of crap then get called a liar in public by a rep. (even after i called to make sure it was covered, but ah, i didnt take names...) screw that, screw apple. They sell too many iPods to care about computer users.
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sure, buy a crooked iBook then get called a liar when you take it back. Then see how much of a fanboy you are.
Dont get me wrong i love my iBook (it reminds me of a big fat iPod!) and i love the MAC OS X even though im not really used to it. Im mad cause i was called a liar. I didnt want a refund, and i didnt expect a new iBook or a better macbook or something, i just wanted them to fix it.
I didnt deserve to be called a liar. Ive called apple support about this, they said i can get it fixed under warrenty. I even called the apple store and they said they would fix it. I bring it down there and not only do they NOT fix it, but i get called a liar.
Its ******** and apple lost a future customer. Companies get one chance. There are plenty of other choices (thinkpads, vaios) so i'll never shop from or reccomend a company that treats customers like this.

Will iBook G4 work without internal HDD?

I have searched, surfed, browsed, read and read... and more regarding my problem with my iBook... it seems I´m almost lost (without having to pay a couple of hundreds euros)...
Basically my iBook started to crash 2 weeks ago. In the beginning I thought it was the old 60Gb HDD... thus I bought a new 160Gb WD and a Firewire enclosure... plugged the new HDD and installed Mac OS X... then followed the ifixit instructions and replaced the old HDD for the new one. First boot went excellent! But...
Because there is always at least one BUT... the new HDD started to crash... same as the old one did... I got the intermitent forder / ? sign and the like... and worse the old 60Gb is running through the firewire case!!! I can boot and everything...
This only meant either the HDD orange ribbon is broken or the IDE Controller from the mainboard... my gutts tell me is the chip... (when pressing it, it works... and have tried out the "shim-thing" suggested somewhere on the net without any success)... nonetheless I ordered a new ribbon...
So the question: Can I remove the 160Gb and NOT install the old 60Gb... just leave it "empty", and still manage to use my iBook through the firewire connection with either of the HDD?
Thanks in advance

Richard... many thanks... trust me when I say that before posting I´ve been around a lot, including big part of the Discussions here... your thread was helpfull over the weekend when I tried it out, although with the ifix disassembly method... I tried just disassembling and reamsseblying verifying every connection and screw... then special focus on the orange ribbon (plus the previous)... and so on till the "shim" variation... it is clear that applying pressure which gave me some results...
Thus, discarding possibilities it is all down to the chip (described here http://www.coreyarnold.org/ibook/)... I do have a couple of friends with soldering skills and the corresponding equipment... I try to get them to doing what is described here: http://macintoshhowto.com/hardware/how-do-i-get-my-broken-g4-ibook-fixed.html
Nonetheless, will try out the orange connector exchange and see what happens, as I have already ordered it...
Yet, my question still holds: will the iBook work without an internal HDD and a firewire bootable HDD (external)?
Of course, I will let you know any news / update on what happens... It is a REAL SHAME, AS I LOVE MY iBOOK...

Faithful old ibook G4-how is your ibook?

hi
just wondered how many years everyones had their ibook G4? and do you still use it?
Ive had mine originally 2003 when it blew up JUST out of warranty..:( cd rom also went....it was the 933mhz (i think), it was a low spec at the time...
ANYway...after MUCH hassle, it got replaced 2004 and i still have it, still use it..dispite having the MBP and I have the old Quicksilver to....
I think il always love the ibook..the replacement was the 1.2gb * again im crap at recalling figures*..it was slightly better than the previous ibook spec.
its 14.1 tft and runs 10.5.8 tiger. it runs CS and Final Cut Epxress and ive no issues with it...fingers crossed..no screen replacement, or logic board fail...
it is a little slow at times....youtube streaming is good and some days quite crappy..
I dont know anyone who had an ibook...only me and my uni friend. His one burned out..
Just curious about other ibook users....
the keys have worn down a bit so ive just bought new ones..to replace the old ones..i guess to preserve it as it gets older then eventually blows up or burns out. I doubt il use it when the screen goes....its expensive to replace ....
I am VERY impressed at how long this little machine has lasted....aww
I think im turning into a mac collector hehe so want a black macbook refurb yay.
so yeah....how is your ibook?

My iBook G4 melted in a house fire in June of 2010.
The last time I tried it, it still booted.
I still use my iBook G3 (Dual USB) 800 MHz (Mac OS X 10.3.9) occasionally, but mostly to help people out here when I don't remember something about the iBook or the older OS. We have two 500 MHz iBook G3s, too, which don't get a lot of use.
I say that we are the retirement home for old Macs, ha-ha.

Top of the range: Mac Mini vs iBook

Hey hey,
I fell in love with Apple mid last year, and bought my first Mac ever mid November of 2005. It was a 20" G5 RevC 2.1ghz iMac w 1.5gb Ram. It's the best computer I've ever seen and used in my life! Amazing! Anyway, I've been working at my parents to get my sister a Mac for school.
There are 3 options:
- 1.42 80gb Mac Mini with Superdrive
- 1.42 80gb Mac Mini with Combodrive and a TFT (non apple)
- 1.42 14" iBook.
Monique, my sister, would be able to get the first option in March, the second option in April and the third option in June.
She uses my old PC atm, the bulky thing that it is (one way to convince my parents). It's a 1.5ghz 128mb Ram Pentium 4 IBM - load of crap seriously! Anyway, all she uses the computer for is assignments (We'd probbaly get her office over iWork only because she knows how to use office), listening to music, using her 1gb iPod shuffle and to surf and chat online. Now we have just recently got a new 5mp 12xoptical zoom camera and I'm positive she will love iLife shen she realises how good it is with digital life.
What do you suggest to be the better option for my sister? I'm stuck on the portability, or quicker. When we go on holidays I know the iBook would be perfect to download photos and such on the go - seeing as we are taking a 3 week holiday in september, it would be great! I've made a little comparison thingo below:
- Both small and take up not much room
- Mac Mini will have to buy apple keyboard - iBook you have it.
- Mac Mini maybe purchase TFT - iBook you have screen
- Mac Mini not as portable - iBook is
- Mac Mini w/o tft approx half the price of iBook
- Mac Mini w tft is about $200 cheaper than iBook
- Both can connect wirelessly to our wireless home network (iMac, 2pcs atm)
- Mac Mini bigger screen
- My iMac has superdrive so not really need superdrive in Mac Mini. Will save about $100.
What do you think you would go for? I'm not saying I'm going to do what you say, just wondering what other folks would do. I am thinking the iBook.
Thanks guys!
- leighton

Hi Leight,
Your a good brother to be buying your sister an Apple computer. What kind of school does she go to? College? Anyways, I think that the iBook is the best way to go. It is the perfect tool for the average student. I recommend the iBooks for people whose needs fall in the realm of basic computing. I use iLife as a standard for the iBook. She will be doing Word processing (I would hold off on MS Office or iWork because her iBook will come with the trials for both. I bought MS Office, then used iWorks (trial) on my new iBook and I threw the MS Office away.), web browsing (Safari), Music (iTunes), Email (Mail is my favorite), Photos (iPhoto 5 is good for keeping them organized. Her iBook will come with iPhoto 6, which is just truly amazing), messengers (iChat is my favorite, I have everyone from Hotmail to AIM on it. You have to go through Jabber to use Hotmail but I can show you), and she might want watch movies (iMovie). These are all on the iBook as your know, they cover the basic necessities that she would need. I bought my iBook for school purposes only, the "iLifes". I do all my heavy editing and scripting on my iMac, which is more capable. She will love the iBook because she will be able to take it with her where ever she wants. It is so convenient to just carry around with me to class (if the teacher doesn't mind). I would suggest though thinking about buying or recommending to her the following:
Airport Express - I use it in school and when I am traveling. I am not stuck sitting at that awful desk in the corner
iSight - I use it to communicate with friends and family when I am traveling or at school. I find people never relize how great video conferencing is till they try it.
iWork - Even though she knows how to use MS Office, Pages is so much easier and efficient. With Pages there is little to none time wasted struggling to format the document to make it look right. Pages works great with other iLife applications like iTunes, iPhoto, and iMovie. I use it all the time for projects, reports, and essays.
AppleCare - A necessity! Even though this will put you back some money, it is worth the cost. If something goes wrong with her iBook she can bring it to any Apple Store and they will fix it. They will fix it for free most times as long as she didn't do anything malicious to it.
I hope that helps,
Jon
PS Why don't you ask her what she wants? Surprise her with choices, and then let her decide. That way you will know that you chose the right one for her.

After Updates 1/10, iBook crashing

Hi, all
First Apple post
Bought my iBook G4 Jan 8 of last year. Now crashing
Installed updates, Jan 10 or 11, via CAT5 wire (AirPort disabled, running on battery for updates). Required reboot – booted okay. (Re-enabled AirPort right before shutting down.)
Next morning, wouldn’t turn on (no boot tone).
Reseated battery and it turned on but rectangular box I’ve never seen before declared I needed to reboot my computer (in about 5 different languages).
Rebooted and saw a tiny Finder folder in middle of screen that kept flashing from Finder folder to ?question mark? I didn’t know what this meant, but I just let it sit there, just in case it was running some sort of maintenance. After about 5 minutes, it rebooted all by itself and everything ran fine.
I immediately went into System Preferences, started Classic, and rebuilt the desktop.
Next morning, I started up okay and decided to go to discussion groups to post about my problems, but as I logged on with my Apple ID, the computer froze solid with the equivalent of a Windows Blue Screen Of Death (BSOD).
Apple BSOD screen data displayed:
System Failure: cpu=0; code=00000004 (No saveareas)
Latest crash info for cpu0:
Exception state (sv=0x24CEE280)
PC=0x00088330; MSR=0x02003000; DAR=0x1C30B004; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x00088380; R1=0xFC14FC21; XCP=0x00000098; (System Failure)
Backtrace:
Backtrace terminated – unaligned frame address: 0xFC14FC21
Proceeding back via exception chain:
Exception state (sv=0x24CEE280)
PC=0x000983A8; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0x1C30B004; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x0009CACC; R1=0x120ABCD0; XCP=0x00000024; (0x900 - Decrementer)
Backtrace:
0009CAC8 00426AEC 00415D5C 0043AA24 00035148 00035028
Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
com.apple.iokit.AppleAirPort2(400.17)@0x3f7000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(1.4)@0x398000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily(1.4.0)@0x3da000
Exception state (sv=0x24CACA00)
PC=0x00000000; MSR=0x0000D030; DAR=0x00000000; DSISR=0x00000000; LR=0x00000000; R1=0x00000000; XCP=0x00000000; (unkown)
Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 7.9.0:
Wed Mar 30 20:11:17 PST 2005; root:xnu/xnu-517.12.7.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC
It mentions the CPU, the AirPort, and implies memory problems, but I can't tell if this means the updates (code) are mishandling memory, or the RAM is faulty, or the CPU is failing, or the AirPort is failing, or what.
Anyone have any ideas?
Or can anyone point me to any resources where I might delve deeper into this?
I'm a Windows/AMD/Intel technician who is trying to also learn Apple and various Linux distros. I understand hardware thoroughly, but new to Apple/OSX.
I love my iBook! Any help would be very much appreciated.
JeffO93y

More info...
I tried to repair disk permissions in Disk Utility, but it fails after 1.3 of the way.
Can't repair disk.
Is there a bootable disk that will repair my hard drive?
Can I boot from my OSX CD and do a repair install?
I think the option to boot from CD instead of the hard drive is hold down the "C" key while booting. Is that right?
JeffO93y

How does Macbook compare to ibook?

Hi--
I currently have an ibook G4 and love it; however, I am running out of memory (I have an 80GB HD but a lot of video files) and would like a second Mac anyway since my husband seems to take over my ibook every time I walk out of the room. And I am tempted by the promotion that ends today, to get a free ipod, since my 30GB video ipod is also out of space (I would upgrade to the 80GB video ipod and just pay the difference).
What I am wondering, for those of you who've had an ibook and a macbook, do you like the macbook as well, or better? Or does it have problems the ibook did not? I guess I'm a little nervous because I've read a lot of posts about macbook problems, especially related to vibrating or the fan running, and I'm just wondering if the macbook is as reliable and user-friendly as the ibook. I love my ibook because it is so quiet, doesn't usually get too hot if used for general word-processing and internet surfing, and I've never had any unreliability issues. It may be a moot point, since I can't buy a new ibook anyway, but I just need to hear some positive stories about the macbook, especially from those of you who've also had ibooks. Thanks!

I have a 12" ibook and a 1st generation Core Duo Macbook. I bought the Macbook because my partner needed a notebook and was happy to get my iBook. In hindsight I think I should have bought the Macbook Pro, despite the extra expense, as this would probably have been a better upgrade from the iBook. However, the current version of the Macbook is a far better spec'd computer...faster, more hard drive space, more Ram, and I think that the problems that some early Macbooks were prone too have been ironed out. Mine had the random shutdown problem, but Apple fixed that under warranty and it has been very reliable since.
Plus points of the Macbook for me are:
-I like the glossy screen of the macbook, definitely superior to the iBook for photos.
-The keyboard took a few hours to get used to but I think I type faster on it now.
-The iSight camera is a huge benefit if you do any videochat (Skype, iChat), it is so nice to have such a good onboard camera.
-It is much faster for iMovie...no crashes or video drop outs. Could be that the extra Ram helps here.
- my iBook has Panther so obviously having Tiger is an improvement.
- Magnetic power supply is nice
-came with bluetooth and wireless as standard...I love using it for wireless internet in hotspots.
Negative points would be:
_ A BIG one for me is that the optical drive on the Macbook is far less reliable and stable than the ibook. It rejects a lot of my cd's that the iBook takes no problem, scratches cd's, cd's get stuck frequently. I often have to load a cd onto the ibook, then copy the file to my Macbook, and I am forever having to try to eject stuck cd's. Some brands of blank cd's/dvd's won't work at all.
-Heat...there is no doubt, the Macbook gets very hot compared to the iBook. It is uncomfortable if you use it on your lap, and I do wonder whether eventually sone internal componant will just melt one day and kill the Macbook, but so far that hasn't happened so maybe I am worrying for nothing.
- I don't think the general build quality is as good, it just doesn't feel as solid. I treat mine very carefully. However, I have a friend who takes his everywhere in a rucksack and has not suffered any ill effects.
As I said, if I was buying again I definitely would have opted for the Macbook Pro as this would have been a really nice jump up, but the Macbook is amazing value and if you need another computer you will enjoy owning it.
Have you thought about a new iMac...do you need a notebook because if you don't the iMac would be a good choice too? Much bigger hard drive, better graphics card, bigger screen.
Enjoy what ever you end up with.
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A Cautionary Tale + Question about ibook hard drive

I made the switch to Mac almost two years ago; I love my ibook G4, but I wish I had purchased AppleCare. Now I've got an odd HD problem and I'm wondering if anyone else has had something similar happen.
Right now the HD is OK; obviously, I'm using it to post this message. But fairly often I will get the whirly, the computer will absolutely freeze (no F9, no option-command-escape, nothing). Guess what makes it better? Tilting the entire computer up at about a 30 degree angle! Everything goes back to normal--the HD kicks back into place, the whirly goes away, and my computer is fine--until I place the computer on a level surface again.
I have a theory as to why this is happening, and I'm wondering whether it's correct. Stupidly, I have in the past carried my ibook around while it's open. Recently I heard an odd groaning sound coming from the HD while doing so. I bet that I scratched the HD somehow or loosened it in some way that it only works when it's tilted in a certain direction. Do I need to replace the HD? I'm on level ground right now, and, knock on wood, everything's OK.
Any similar experiences out there, or responses to my theory? Thank you.
iBook G4 800 Mac OS X (10.3.9)

Andrew, if you're booted from a Mac OS X 10.3.x (Panther) install disk, you should be able to open the Disk Utility from the Installer menu without actually installing Mac OS X. What does the Disk Utility tell you about your iBook's hard drive? Is the S.M.A.R.T. status failing? Are you able to "repair disk" and/or "repair disk permissions" on the hard drive? Have you run the Apple Hardware Test CD? Although it does seem to sound like a hard drive hardware issue, before you go about replacing the hard drive, it might be a good idea to go through these troubleshooting steps to eliminate things like a bad logic board first. What if you go about the cost and time to replace the hard drive but it's actually the ATA controller on the logic board that's the problem?
-Doug

IBook G4 OSX 10.3.9 Airport Connection Problems

My mom absolutely loves her iBook but it has recently stopped getting the Internet. I have tried everything I can think of and I've looked through hundreds of threads and none have found the answer. There are three other computers in the house that are able to connect through Airport to our router (which is open) with no problem. However, when you try to connect on her computer it says that it is getting one bar but no more. It's impossible for the signal to be that low when everyone else has full signal. I'm open to any suggestion at this point! Please help!!

Hey lilangel and Welcome to Apple Discussions,
Exactly which iBook is this? If it's any of the ones up to the integrated Airport Extreme/BlueTooth card try swapping the card.
three other computers in the house that are able to connect through Airport to our router
Are any of these using a card compatible w/ your mom's iBook?
The card has a known failure rate.
Got 3 in my junk drawer.
Richard

Are you guys going to primarily be using iBooks for epurchases?

I love the iBook store because it's so elegant to use and vastly prefer it to the Kindle app. The integrated dictionary and "pages to next chapter" are the killer features for me. But the Kindle so far has the wider selection and cheaper prices for ebooks. They also have a web broswer unlike the iBooks store. There's this one book I'm thinking about pre-ordering http://www.amazon.com/Delivering-Happiness-ebook/dp/B003JTHXN6)and I'm not even sure if it's gonna come out to the iBook store soon enough (or even at all) :-/ What do you guys think about iBooks compared to the other ebook alternatives?

At this point I prefer to read in iBooks and have purchased a few books from there and also loaded epub books I already had.
But as you have noticed, their current selection is weaker - primarily with regards to older titles and Random House (who did wish to sign up with the "Agency Model" that Mr. Jobs insisted on). Then again Amazon has still not settled their "differences" with Penguin, and those books are on the iBookstore.
And B&N is AWFULLY SLOW in releasing their iPad app (can't stand the pixelated text of the iPhone app when used on the iPad).
But the differences between the three apps - at least when B&N gets off their butts - would for me make iBooks a preference. (I also like the two page view when holding the iPad horizontally, something the Kindle uses have been asking for also.) But if I want a book and it is available in one of the other stores and not in iBooks, well.....

Ibook g3 wont boot after trying to install classic

I have an ibook that has a missing keyboard...a usb keyboard worked fine, until i tried to install classic by dragging the system folder from my cdrom of os 9 to the drive and choosing it to boot from it in startup disk preferences...now it wont boot..holding c wont work, trying to clear the pram wont work, not even getting into the open firmware will work...nothing...PLEASE HELP ME!! thanks in advance and sorry for being too long winded..i just really love this ibook and wish i wasnt so dumb in my actions...

Hello,
Try booting to safe mode http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1455?viewlocale=en_US.
Once in the OS change the startup disk preferences back to OS X

New Powerbook vs. iBook

I am going to buy a laptop but I can't decide which one to get. I am probably going to get the new 12" Powerbook but am also thinking about the 12" iBook. Any owners of either please give advise on what to get.
Thanks in advance,
-Bob

I'm not sure if I'm going to add anything new that hasn't already been said here already, but I agree that it comes down to what you're going to use the laptop for and which one feels more comfortable to use.
Personally, I chose my 12-inch PB because of its size, its aluminum case, faster CPU and graphics processor (at the time), and keyboard.
In my job, I use MS Word a lot and send tons of e-mail. It was crucial that I had a nice keyboard. I tested both the PB and iBook and the PB's better keyboard sealed the deal. I had read that the PB's keyboard is one of the best for all laptops -- PC or Apple -- and I concur. The iBook felt cheap and didn't provide the feedback that I wanted.
And then there's the "cool" factor. I must admit the PB looks much cooler than the iBook... I still get looks when I pull the PB out of my bag while everyone else has a generic, black Dell laptop in front of them.
But these are my personal preferences. The iBook is a solid choice, too, and I have friends who love their iBooks. Again, it comes down to personal preference.
Go to an Apple Store or reseller and try both of them out. And then compare their features. For instance, do you need DVI outputs? Larger hard drive? Is the CPU and graphics processor fast enough for your needs?
For the money, you can still get a 14-inch iBook and still save a few bucks over a 12-inch PB.
Good luck!

Love my iBook G4

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