Low cost Mackie control surface for FCP 6?

Could someone recommend an inexpensive control surface for FCP 6? Perhaps a bit more expensive than the Berhinger but cheaper than the Tascam.

I've had nothing but grief since installing the FW-1082 and sure could use some help when you return. Here is my current situation (copied from my post on the TASCAM forum which yielded zero responses):
I know the instructions say that the FW-1082 should be plugged directly into the computer interface and that nothing should be plugged into it. Unfortunately my Intel iMac only has one FW400 and one FW800 port. There are other FW400 peripherals such as HDD's and camcorder video capture. With only one FW400 port, it means either I plug the FW-1082 directly into the computer and then connect the FW400 hub to the second FW-1082 port, or plug the hub directly into the computer and the FW-1082 into it. Which ever approach I use, it results in very unstable operation. Sometimes the 'Firewire' LED never lights. Other times the FW-1082 keeps reseting itself every few seconds. Unfortunately I no longer have the option of returning it, so I must find some way to use it with my existing hardware.
I just installed V1.06 of the Mac drivers and 'Fix for Mac OSX 10.4.10 FireWire' from the TASCAM website, restarted the computer, and now the Firewire LED on the FW-1082 never lights. The 'fix' mentioned above rolls back the extension 'AppleFWAudio' to V2.0.1. to resolve a problem with the OSX 10.4.10 update. Unfortunately, I don't know how to restore it to its previous state. Help!
(I apologize for posting this in the FCP forum, but this is the only place I've been able to find fellow FW-1082 users.)

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Hi Everybody !
I'm a newbie in Mac and Logic Pro. I want to buy a
control surface for Logic Pro.
I found that Behringer B-CONTROL FADER BCF2000
Controller is compatible with Mac and Reason 3.0 but
I'm not sure that it is compatible with Logic Pro.
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