Low latency during recording?

Sometimes I want to re-record a track when I'm already far ahead in the mixing process, havinng some latency inducing plugins on aux's or masterbuss.
In Logic 9, I had to clear any I/O channel strips that contained these plugins since the Low Latency button didn't work for those.
Am I correct that in Logic X this works also for the plugins on busses???
I always find it such a drag to save all aux and master channel settings, clear them, record and than put them all back in...
Thanks,
Jasper

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OK here ya go. 2 different versions of logic and 2 different versions of SL. Every time you close and reopen a project. You have to check low latency again. I guess I just never noticed it in the main studio because I never needed it, Using a Mac Pro, Motu 896, Buffers set @ 512 Medium With multiple fire wire devices, Multiple midi devices, Recording 8 audio tracks at the same time. Never a problem. On the I-Mac With Apogeee duet. 1 Track with no plugins. Buffers @ 128 I need it. Go figure. Thanks for your input everyone. Bill
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Do they have the same interface as you? I get very little latency on my iBook G4 and I am using usb 2.
Before getting my external drive I had been recording successfully on my iBook's hardrive. Besides eating up hardrive space I had no problems. Much of what I do uses GB's excellent software instruments and MIDI.
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I've read it bypasses plug ins which causes latency. But if it is so what'is the sense of this function? If I understand well in this mode I don't know exactly which plug in will work and which no....
I cannot accept a situation like this.
Apart from anything else I did use low latency mode (because I listened some latency after having inserted a plug) and I checked all the plugs during playback and they all seem to work. So?
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Usually I use Low Latency mode in when mixing-mastering.
I use UAD DSP plugins on the master... this is cause of many issue... the MAIN problem is that Logic is able to compensate Plugin Audio Latency (PDC)... but not Graphics .. (GPDC is not available... instead Logic 7... Logic 7 have GPDC!!! ... in Logic 8 graphical plugin delay compensation is a missing features)
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but this is not fixable.. or better.. Apple developers must included the Graphic delay compensation in order to get metering in sync with Audio... (I hope in the 8.1 version)
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return back to your question, I use Low Latency mode when i need to record some missing details .. without get DSP latency!
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G

Display not scrolling during recording

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This is due to the fact that you're monitoring through Logic and you're hearing the direct Input as well as the track output causing the doubler effect as the Latency is delaying the track's Output. So set the track you're recording to to "No Output", enable Input monitoring and you should be fine.

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I'm pretty new to Logic but have been using software sequencers for a couple years now (Pro-tools/Reason/Ableton Live) so I'm wondering what I'm forgetting/doing incorrectly when I track any live sound and hear that it's offset from the global tempo when I play back.
In other words I'm pretty sure I have the basics set up correctly but I'm still having the latency issues with tracking live audio; the low latency mode is on, HD buffer size is at 256, I've installed the latest firmware for my interface (motu 8 pre-fire wire). Maybe the follow tempo button in inspector being checked would help... just read about that but I'm not at my computer to try.
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A Buffer I/O setting of 256 is a pretty high setting for tracking. That's giving you 5.8 ms of latency at 44.1K, and 5.3 ms latency at 48K. That's enough to throw off otherwise tight timing.
That's the first thing.
Second thing is that you should probably check your recording delay setting. If it's set to zero then you need to do a loopback test to assess the recording latency and then plug in the appropriate value so that your recorded tracks play back where they should.
Go to this link [http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=5412800&#5412800] and look for my long post towards the bottom. The procedure for setting your recording delay is outlined in detail. Don't be put off by the number of steps --- it's a procedure you only need to do once.
And make sure that when you do the test that you start with a fresh Logic song/project with NO plugins anywhere, and have PDC switched off.
Still, I'd recommend setting your buffer size to 64 or better, 32 (if you can get away with it).

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I'm working on my MacBook Pro 2.4 with Logic Pro 8.0.2 and M-Audio Ozonic FireWire interface (latest driver installed). During recording (just one voice track) over an empty session I notice random audio drops. I tryed to change latency and buffer without success. Same equipment and software on my Mac Pro 2.66 works great.
Last year I worked all the summer with the same MacBook Pro (maybe some osx and software versions earlier) without any problem.
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Turn Airport off first and close all other applications.
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On Apple's Logic Express 8 Technical Specifications page, it says "Low-latency multi-I/O audio hardware and MIDI interface recommended".
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Can't send to bus when in low latency mode?

My colleague and I have almost the same setup, except he is running OS X 10.8.5, and I'm running OS X 10.9.4, Both are running Logic X 10.0.7. He has Apogee hardware (Symphony 64 card to DA16X/AD16X), and I have a UA Apollo.
For some reason, this works on my setup, but not on his:
Set up a bus send on any audio or VI channel, and assign the output of that channel to outputs 3-4 (outputs 1-2 are both of our main outs). The purpose of this is to send to a cue/headphone box.
Set latency compensation to Instruments and Tracks (not ALL, setting it to ALL defeats this)
Turn on low-latency mode.
Turn on Software Monitoring (buffer is set to 64)
Record enable that track.
On my setup, I get signal on channels 3-4, on his, no signal as soon as record is enabled
Auto-input monitoring is off in both cases.
On my setup, the bus popup turns orange, but I still hear the signal, on his, it turns orange, but no signal.
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Weird.

Bus Send is set the same on both systems, Post Pan, Post Fader, Pre Fader ?
Good point, I'll check that
Bus is set to output on 3-4 ?
Yes, on both systems
Bus level is the same ?
Yes, similar anyway
Sure you friend doesn't have any plugins on the master output bus ?
I didn't consider that - somehow didn't think that plugins on the master bus (which is outputting on 1-2) could effect a different bus. Will check that tomorrow.
Do you by any chance have direct monitoring enabled on the Apollo, any input signal will be heard.
I do use direct monitoring on the Apollo, but that is not a factor - it's prerecorded material we are trying to monitor, not input signal.
Curious as to why are you running in Low Latency mode, it is for a specific purpose not something to be used in general recording/work.
He is running on an older Mac tower and uses a lot of plugins and prefers software monitoring, and finds that he has problems unless he enables low latency mode. I usually leave it off, I just wanted to see if the issue was present on my system as well, and it's not.
Thanks, will report back.

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