LPX Filter and Effect Questions..

Hi all - still somewhat new to LPX (10.0.6).
With regards to filters and effects, there's two things I can't figure out how to do:
(1) Apply an effect gradually, overtime. An example would be the EQ changing throughout a few bars.
(2) Set a start point for filters that automatically reset after a specific number of bars. I'm using the Always Rising Filter preset for the basic Auto Filter and have it set to 8 bars. The problem is I can't tell it which bar to start with. It starts at measure 5 and goes to measure 12, I want it to start at 1 and go to 8. How can I change this?
I know these are kind of amateur questions, I've googled and can't seem to find an answer. Thanks!
Rebekah

You could try automation. With a slowly changing eq for example...
Say you've got an eq over a Ultrabeat pattern you've programmed in the tracks window and you want to do a slow eq change. Have a look under the Ultrabeat instrument in its channel strip. See the thing that says "READ" in a green box? Change it to "latch".
Now, open your eq plugin and hit the spacebar to start your UB pattern playing. As it plays, move the parameter you want to change in the eq window. Hit stop. Change automation mode back to "Read". A little yellow icon should come on in the Inspector area of the Tracks window next to your Ultrabeat instrument. That's showing that the automation is turned on.
Now, magnify your view in the vertical plane (tool for this in the top left hand corner of your tracks window) until you can see the automation stuff appear below the representation of the midi notes in your Ultrabeat pattern. There should be a pull-down there that will show what you've just put in with automation. You now use that info to edit what you want the eq to do.
That was a bit long-winded, I know...but you only have to learn the procedure of putting in automation once because it works pretty much identically for any automation function within LPX.

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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:11:50 -0600
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Noob Question - PreComp Layers and Effects
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Introductory Remark
After several years of reluctance this March I changed to LR due to its retouching capabilities. Unfortunately – beyond enjoying some really nice features of LR – I keep struggling with several problems, many of which have been covered in this forum. In this thread I describe a problem with a particular LR 4.4 catalog and put some general questions.
A few days ago I upgraded to 5.0. Unfortunately it turned out to produce even slower ’speed’ than 4.4 (discussed – among other places – here: http://forums.adobe.com/message/5454410#5454410), so I rather fell back to the latter, instead of testing the behavior of the 5.0 catalog. Anyway, as far as I understand this upgrade does not include significant new catalog functions, so my problem and questions below may be valid for 5.0, too. Nevertheless, the incompatibility of the new and previous catalogs suggests rewriting of the catalog-related parts of the code. I do not know the resulting potential improvements and/or new bugs in 5.0.
For your information, my PC (running under Windows 7) has a 64-bit Intel Core i7-3770K processor, 16GB RAM, 240 GB SSD, as well as fast and large-capacity HDDs. My monitor has a resolution of 1920x1200.
1. Problem with the catalog
To tell you the truth, I do not understand the potential necessity for using the “File / Optimize Catalog” function. In my view LR should keep the catalog optimized without manual intervention.
Nevertheless, when being faced with the ill-famed slowness of LR, I run this module. In addition, I always switch on the “Catalog Settings / General / Back up catalog” function. The actually set frequency of backing up depends on the circumstances – e.g. the number of RAW (in my case: NEF) files, the size of the catalog file (*.lrcat), and the space available on my SSD. In case of need I delete the oldest backup file to make space for the new one.
Recently I processed 1500 photos, occupying 21 GB. The "Catalog Settings / Metadata / Automatically write changes into XMP" function was switched on. Unfortunately I had to fiddle with the images quite a lot, so after processing roughly half of them the catalog file reached the size of 24 GB. Until this stage there had been no sign of any failure – catalog optimizations had run smoothly and backups had been created regularly, as scheduled.
Once, however, towards the end of generating the next backup, LR sent an error message saying that it had not been able to create the backup file, due to lack of enough space on the SSD. I myself found still 40 GB of empty space, so I re-launched the backup process. The result was the same, but this time I saw a mysterious new (journal?) file with a size of 40 GB… When my third attempt also failed, I had to decide what to do.
Since I needed at least the XMP files with the results of my retouching operations, I simply wanted to save these side-cars into the directory of my original input NEF files on a HDD. Before making this step, I intended to check whether all modifications and adjustments had been stored in the XMP files.
Unfortunately I was not aware of the realistic size of side-cars, associated with a certain volume of usage of the Spot Removal, Grad Filter, and Adjustment Brush functions. But as the time of the last modification of the XMP files (belonging to the recently retouched pictures) seemed perfect, I believed that all my actions had been saved. Although the "Automatically write changes into XMP" seemed to be working, in order to be on the safe side I selected all photos and ran the “Metadata / Save Metadata to File” function of the Library module. After this I copied the XMP files, deleted the corrupted catalog, created a new catalog, and imported the same NEF files together with the side-cars.
When checking the photos, I was shocked: Only the first few hundred XMP files retained all my modifications. Roughly 3 weeks of work was completely lost… From that time on I regularly check the XMP files.
Question 1: Have you collected any similar experience?
2. The catalog-related part of my workflow
Unless I miss an important piece of knowledge, LR catalogs store many data that I do not need in the long run. Having the history of recent retouching activities is useful for me only for a short while, so archiving every little step for a long time with a huge amount of accumulated data would be impossible (and useless) on my SSD. In terms of processing what count for me are the resulting XMP files, so in the long run I keep only them and get rid of the catalog.
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create a ‘temporary’ catalog on my SSD
import the new pictures from my HDD into this temporary catalog
select all imported pictures in the temporary catalog
use the “File / Export as Catalog” function in order to copy the original NEF files onto the SSD and make them used by the ‘real’ (not temporary) new catalog
use the “File / Open Catalog” function to re-launch LR with the new catalog
switch on the "Automatically write changes into XMP" function of the new catalog
delete the ‘temporary’ catalog to save space on the SSD
retouch the pictures (while keeping and eye on due creation and development of the XMP files)
generate the required output (TIF OR JPG) files
copy the XMP and the output files into the original directory of the input NEF files on the HDD
copy the whole catalog for interim archiving onto the HDD
delete the catalog from the SSD
upon making sure that the XMP files are all fine, delete the archived catalog from the HDD, too
Question 2: If we put aside the issue of keeping the catalog for other purposes then saving each and every retouching steps (which I address below), is there any simpler workflow to produce only the XMP files and save space on the SSD? For example, is it possible to create a new catalog on the SSD with copying the input NEF files into its directory and re-launching LR ‘automatically’, in one step?
Question 3: If this I not the case, is there any third-party application that would ease the execution of the relevant parts of this workflow before and/or after the actual retouching of the pictures?
Question 4: Is it possible to set general parameters for new catalogs? In my experience most settings of the new catalogs (at least the ones that are important for me) are copied from the recently used catalog, except the use of the "Catalog Settings / Metadata / Automatically write changes into XMP" function. This means that I always have to go there to switch it on… Not even a question is raised by LR whether I want to change anything in comparison with the settings of the recently used catalog…
3. Catalog functions missing from my workflow
Unfortunately the above described abandoning of catalogs has at least two serious drawbacks:
I miss the classification features (rating, keywords, collections, etc.) Anyway, these functions would be really meaningful for me only if covering all my existing photos that would require going back to 41k images to classify them. In addition, keeping all the pictures in one catalog would result in an extremely large catalog file, almost surely guaranteeing regular failures. Beyond, due to the speed problem tolerable conditions could be established only by keeping the original NEF files on the SSD, which is out of the question. Generating several ‘partial’ catalogs could somewhat circumvent this trap, but it would require presorting the photos (e.g. by capture time or subject) and by doing this I would lose the essence of having a single catalog, covering all my photos.
Question 5: Is it the right assumption that storing only some parts (e.g. the classification-related data) of catalog files is impossible? My understanding is that either I keep the whole catalog file (with the outdated historical data of all my ‘ancient’ actions) or abandon it.
Question 6: If such ‘cherry-picking’ is facilitated after all: Can you suggest any pragmatic description of the potential (competing) ways of categorizing images efficiently, comparing them along the pros and contras?
I also lose the virtual copies. Anyway, I am confused regarding the actual storage of the retouching-related data of virtual copies. In some websites one can find relatively old posts, stating that the XMP file contains all information about modifying/adjusting both the original photo and its virtual copy/copies. However, when fiddling with a virtual copy I cannot see any change in the size of the associated XMP file. In addition, when I copy the original NEF file and its XMP file, rename them, and import these derivative files, only the retouched original image comes up – I cannot see any virtual copy. This suggests that the XMP file does not contain information on the virtual copy/copies…
For this reason whenever multiple versions seem to be reasonable, I create renamed version(s) of the same NEF+XMP files, import them, and make some changes in their settings. I know, this is far not a sophisticated solution…
Question 7: Where and how the settings of virtual copies are stored?
Question 8: Is it possible to generate separate XMP files for both the originally retouched image and its virtual copy/copies and to make them recognized by LR when importing them into a new catalog?

A part of my problems may be caused by selecting LR for a challenging private project, where image retouching activities result in bigger than average volume of adjustment data. Consequently, the catalog file becomes huge and vulnerable.
While I understand that something has gone wrong for you, causing Lightroom to be slow and unstable, I think you are combining many unrelated ideas into a single concept, and winding up with a mistaken idea. Just because you project is challenging does not mean Lightroom is unsuitable. A bigger than average volume of adjustment data will make the catalog larger (I don't know about "huge"), but I doubt bigger by itself will make the catalog "vulnerable".
The causes of instability and crashes may have NOTHING to do with catalog size. Of course, the cause MAY have everything to do with catalog size. I just don't think you are coming to the right conclusion, as in my experience size of catalog and stability issues are unrelated.
2. I may be wrong, but in my experience the size of the RAW file may significantly blow up the amount of retouching-related data.
Your experience is your experience, and my experience is different. I want to state clearly that you can have pretty big RAW files that have different content and not require significant amounts of retouching. It's not the size of the RAW that determines the amount of touchup, it is the content and the eye of the user. Furthermore, item 2 was related to image size, and now you have changed the meaning of number 2 from image size to the amount of retouching required. So, what is your point? Lots of retouching blows up the amount of retouching data that needs to be stored? Yeah, I agree.
When creating the catalog for the 1500 NEF files (21 GB), the starting size of the catalog file was around 1 GB. This must have included all classification-related information (the meaningful part of which was practically nothing, since I had not used rating, classification, or collections). By the time of the crash half of the files had been processed, so the actual retouching-related data (that should have been converted properly into the XMP files) might be only around 500 MB. Consequently, probably 22.5 GB out of the 24 GB of the catalog file contained historical information
I don't know exactly what you do to touch up your photos, I can't imagine how you come up with the size should be around 500MB. But again, to you this problem is entirely caused by the size of the catalog, and I don't think it is. Now, having said that, some of your problem with slowness may indeed be related to the amount of touch-up that you are doing. Lightroom is known to slow down if you do lots of spot removal and lots of brushing, and then you may be better off doing this type of touch-up in Photoshop. Again, just to be 100% clear, the problem is not "size of catalog", the problem is you are doing so many adjustments on a single photo. You could have a catalog that is just as large, (i.e. that has lots more photos with few adjustments) and I would expect it to run a lot faster than what you are experiencing.
So to sum up, you seem to be implying that slowness and catalog instability are the same issue, and I don't buy it. You seem to be implying that slowness and instability are both caused by the size of the catalog, and I don't buy that either.
Re-reading your original post, you are putting the backups on the SSD, the same disk as the working catalog? This is a very poor practice, you need to put your backups on a different physical disk. That alone might help your space issues on the SSD.

Opinions on excellent quality plugins and effects.

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Hi
I need a build and maintain complex requests to Oracle Endeca Server. These requests could include different types of attributes: string, datetime, int.
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<?xml version="1.0" ?>
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<ns3:Operator xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:type="ns3:SearchOperator">
<ns3:SearchFilter SnippetLength="20" EnableSnippeting="true" Mode="Boolean" Key="orderSearch">multiple_prop : one</ns3:SearchFilter>
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If my approach is incorrect could you provide me a a better way to handle such requests?
Regards,
Eugene.

Hi Eugene,
As you know, this issue has been discussed further, so I am posting here the summary of the findings, with the hope that this summary will benefit the Endeca Server user community at large.
* Boolean search only works with range filters for the AND operator. The documentation link above confirms this.
*Because of this restriction, you need to build another query that would achieve the same result. Both options are equally good and would achieve the results you need. Two suggestions that we've received were:
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For this option, you would have to create a search interface for each attribute, using the Config Web Service. Here is the topic about loading config documents into the Endeca Server:http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E29805_01/server.230/es_dev/toc.htm#Loading%20configuration%20documents
- Option 2
* You could implement the range filter through EQL row expression syntax instead and pass it in via the DataSourceFilterOperator, which acts as a prefilter on all other query logic, using the Conversation Web Service. Thus you might include:
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</Operator>
For this option, using the DataSourceFilter does not require you to model the rest of the query in EQL. It will perform slightly better than the filter in option 1 because of the order in which record set intersections are computed, but the difference is likely to be very small.
Finally, if this addresses your question, please mark this question as answered, so that others can benefit from it on the forum. Big thanks to Endeca Server development team (you know who you are!), for helping to find solutions for this request.
Julia
Edited by: JuliaM on Aug 30, 2012 2:05 PM
Edited by: JuliaM on Aug 30, 2012 2:06 PM

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When using Adobe Photoshop Elements, is it legal to use shapes etc. (displayed in 'Artwork and Effects') when creating a product to be sold? Thank you.

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Confusing about Message filter and Content filter

I have a message filter do quarantine action:
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also I write a content filter 'good' to see what spams are missed by Ironport Antispam:
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Tue Jun 17 18:52:55 2008 Info: New SMTP ICID 26146919 interface InNet (10.68.2.161) address 61.135.132.136 reverse dns host websmtp.sohu.com verified no
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The log shows the quarantine action of message filter take effect after the content filter action. I'm quite confused.
Any suggestion?

The original message was marked to go to the "Policy" system quarantine via the message filter. However, that message continues through the email pipeline. If no other action affects that message(i.e. dropped by Sophos anti-virus), then the system will move the message to the "Policy" quarantine as originally marked.
However, in your case, the message was marked to be sent to the "Policy" system quarantine, and then it matched your content filter and did two things:
1. spawned a copy of the original message and sent this new one to the "good" system quarantine. (see MID 10698528)
2. the original copy was left alone and this one was sent to the "Policy" quarantine. If you had a drop() action, then it would have gotten dropped and you would have been left with the single copy from #1 (see MID 10698519)
What was the intended behavior you were trying to achieve?
Here are some references that may help:
1. Where can I see a diagram of the IronPort email pipeline?
You can find a diagram of the queue sequence if you click on the Help
link in the top right of the web interface - it takes a while for it to
load. Find the section "Understanding the Email Pipeline" and then
under that "Overview: Email Pipeline".

How does the crop-lock and "Effect" settings logic work?

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What decision process causes the crop lock to remain locked, and then suddenly decide to stay open from one use to the next (Or the reverse).?
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Thank you for the reply!
richardplondon wrote:
There is no distinction betwen edited and un-edited. And the tools and controls do not have any defaults of their own aside from what the images possess. You can't put the crop tool on 3:2 and then move from image to image clicking "apply"; this is simply not how the LR interface works.
Understood, except that these settings are an exception. The effects settings will be stuck in the last positions they where on before you created the edit button. See attached photo for what I mean by edit buttons and associated settings. This also applies to graduated filters.
This is difficult to describe. I think I've figured out the logic but cant understand why anyone would want it to work this way: If I choose a setting *before* making the first mark (i.e. new button) with the tool, those settings will persist forever until I change them (even if I change catalogs). If I change the settings AFTER applying the tool, they are forgotten even if I want to keep them. I never want a custom setting to persist into the next photo because the last tool/setting I used will not likely be the first tool used in the next photo.
And just to be clear, the effects I'm referring to are on the right. The timing of WHEN you adjust those settings determines whether or not they persist in what I consider an undesirable way. In other words, in order to avoid messing up the presets, I must always start the tool before adjusting the effects. That is the only way to keep them from persisting into the next tool/button operation.

PSE 8 Layers and Effects

Hi All my first post here, I came across this forum whikst googling for a solution.....
I run Windows 7 and have PSE 8 - last night I was playing with layers and effects in PSE 8 and I clicked on the small blue box with FX written in the corner of the effects window. A drop down appeared with various options and I clicked 'show all' icons approx 280 of them , now I can't get back to how it used to be [only showing 4 icons that I use reguallry] as the drop down doesn't work any more. I assume this is because there is nothing else to see so how do I get it back to how it was?
Not sure if this is connected or not but I also have lost the sliders in the layers pallet. I can make new layers but have nothing to edit them with.
Any help much appreicated before I go bald!!!

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