LR 1.3.1, Leopard 10.5.1, Epson R1800 6.12a

Hello - first maybe I am search impaired and if this has already been addressed a link to the specific thread would be greatly appreciated!
OKay - so with the new Epson drivers released I hoped that my Leopard/Lightroom printing woes would be a thing of the past.
So after reseting the print system and installing the new drivers, and reinstalling my custom profiles I figured everything would be back on track. But I am getting the same output as before.
My Tiger Macbook still prints wonderfully - but I don't have everything on that system and I would like to upgrade that as soon as this problem is resolved.
So, is there a way to make LR and my R1800 play nice under Leopard? If other people have had success and if I need to just do a new install to start over I am willing to do that - but I would like to know that someone (ANYONE) has had success with this new drivers.
Thanks I really appreciate the help! And again if I am asking something that has already been answer I apologize! (Just send me the link!)
Duane...

Dave, The pdf doesn't come through because you don't have rights to upload files to the Adobe servers, whereas I do (Forum Hosts get a few privileges<g>) >In the Print module, for Color Management I've selected Profile:"SPR2400 PremiumGlossy" and Rendering Intent:Relative. I have NOT selected "Print Settings". I select Print. In the Print Dialog box, Color Matching selections are grayed-out. In Print Settings, Media Type is "Premium Photo Paper Glossy:, Color Settings: Off(No Color Adjustment), Mode is Advanced, Print Quality is "Best Photo". Prints are extremely close to monitor. At least we now know that the series 6.x drivers for the R2400 supports application color management when printing from Lightroom. Hopefully, Duane and Stephen will follow the same procedure and get good results from their R1800's. For you, the next trick will be to find out whether you achieve the same results after configuring and saving the "Epson Print Settings" by accessing them via the "Lightroom Print Settings" button. If you can manage that you'll be set to create a "Print Template" that can be used for all subsequent prints that use that particular media type, size etc. 1. In Lightroom Print module Color Management panel choose the same profile and Rendering Intent as you did before (i.e. SPR2400 PremiumGlossy and Relative). 2. Next, click on the "Lightroom Print Settings" button. You should notice that there is now a "Save" button on the bottom right corner of the dialog in lieu of the "Print" button. It's this button that can save you from having to repeat the print driver configuration each time you want to make a print. 3. Select the "Epson Print Settings" panel from the third pop-up (i.e. the one directly below the Presets pop-up). Do NOT open the Color Matching panel 4. Set the options as you did before (i.e. Media Type is "Premium Photo Paper Glossy:, Color Settings: Off(No Color Adjustment), Mode is Advanced, Print Quality is "Best Photo"). Again, do NOT open the Color Matching panel 5. Click on the "Save" button. 6. Press Cmd+N to create a new print template (you can also find this as an option on the Lightroom Print menu at the top of your screen). 7. When the template dialog appears insert a meaningful name (eg Epson R2400 - Premium Photo Paper Glossy). You should leave the template location (Folder) at the default "User Templates". A sample screenshot is attached. 8. Click the "Create" button and the new template should appear within the "User Templates" section of the Template Browser panel on the left side of your monitor. You can repeat steps 1 through 8 for each of the media types that you use. If everything has been setup correctly you should find making an actual print should now be a relatively straight forward process: (a) Select an image. (b) Switch to Print module. (c) Select a print template from Template Browser, this should automatically configure the profile, rendering intent and driver settings for you. (d) Click the "Lightroom Print" button. (e) Click the "Epson Print" button (note that you should NOT need to change anything). You can even combine (d) and (e) into one mouse click by holding down the Option key when clicking on the "Lightroom Print" button. Hopefully, above process works for you.

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Leopard + Aperture 2 + Epson R1800 == very dark prints

Hi,
Before I upgraded to Leopard, I was able to get very nice prints from Aperture on my Epson R1800 printer.
After I upgraded to Leopard, the prints end up very dark. A bit of additional info follows.
My monitor is correctly calibrated.
I installed new drivers from Epson's website (v6.12), and I verified I'm using those, and not Apple's Gutenprint drivers.
In the print settings I turn color management off, and than select correct ICC profile in the Aperture that matches paper and quality settings. For example, for printing on Epson Premium Glossy paper with PhotoRPM settings, I select "SPR1800 PrmGlsy PhotoRPM.icc" profile. Hit print, and after a bit of time the print comes out of the printer very dark. This sounds like ICC profile got dropped someplace along the way (in Aperture? in driver?).
If I go the other route, and let driver/printer manage color by selecting either normal or vivid options in print settings, and than use "system managed" setting in Aperture, the prints come out bright (maybe even a bit too bright). However, in this case the colors are off. Very off. Skin tones are especially bad with strong yellowish cast (people on the prints look if they were seriously sick).
Has anybody managed to get usable prints from Aperture 2 + Leopard combo on Epson R1800? Or any other comparable Epson printer (R800, R2400, new R1900)?
Searching forums, I found a lot of articles discussing Leopard and Epson printers problems for Adobe products (CS2/CS3/LightRoom), but not much for Aperture 2.
Unrelated question... I attempted to ask this in Aperture forum, but there was no post link. Do I need something special to be able to ask questions there?

Well, believe it or not, with the help of Epson support on the phone, I've figured this out. First of all, there is definitely a problem with Aperture's color management. What used to work (setting a color profile in the Aperture print dialog, and selecting "no color management" in the printer dialog) definitely does not work at this point.
If you want color management, what you have to do is select "System Managed" in the Aperture print dialog, and select "Color Controls - Epson Standard" in the Epson dialog. What this does is select the standard Epson profile for the paper you have selected. For example, if you've chosen Epson Premium Glossy Photo Paper, the printer driver will use the "SPR1800 Premium Glossy" profile (Epson's standard profile for that paper, assuming you've downloaded it). Of course, that gives you Epson's version of what you want to print. If you have created your own profiles, using a spectrophotometer for example, you need to get the printer driver to apply YOUR profile instead of Epson's.
Here's how to apply your profile: Open Colorsync (in the Utilities folder), and select "Printers" in the Devices menu. Under the printer model, Stylus Photo R1800, for my case, select the profile for the paper you're interested in, say "SPR1800 Premium Glossy", and look on the right side of the window at "Current Profile:". Click the down arrow, and select "Other". Navigate to the profile you've created, and click "Open". This will set the profile you've created as what the printer driver will use when it thinks it's applying the SPR1800 Premium Glossy profile. Set other paper profiles (e.g., "SPR1800 Enhanced Matte") to whatever profile you've created for those papers.
Now, when you select "System Managed" in the Aperture dialog, and "Color Controls - Epson Standard" in the Epson dialog, it will apply your own profile.
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CS3 Leopard Epson R1800 driver problems solved (hopefully)

Trying to put this post in searchable terms for others having the same problem finding the answer -- new to mac.
Everybody knows that you need to go to epson.com and download the new mac leopard drivers for most of the printers, including R1800. But the new driver won't install correctly unless you go into Library/Printers/ and move the entire "EPSON" folder into the trash can before double clicking the VISE install icon on the downloaded package. (Maybe there is another way to make it work, but mine wouldn't actually install and start working till I did this.)
If you have the right driver, you will see "EPSON SP R1800 (1)" as your driver in System Preferences/Print&Fax. Also, you will see "Print Settings", "Roll Paper Option", "Expansion" and "Extension Settings" as options in the pulldown menu in the epson print dialog through PS CS3 (after hitting print in the first print dialog box). There is also a "basic" and "Advanced" choice under Print Settings.
If you still have the wrong driver, you won't get any errors, but the new dialog box won't show up. The old driver that doesn't work shows up (I think I remember correctly) as EPSON SPR 1800 in your System Preferences window. No parenthetical. Also, if you have the old bad driver, in the epson print dialog box, you see a different set of options, and no 'basic' and 'advanced' choice under print settings.
I hope that helps some people. I was having a hard time knowing if I had the new driver actually working (even though I thought I installed it). Turns out I didn't! Thanks to random post by John McWilliams and Duane Ellison (who posted screenshot of new dialog in the LR forum), I figured out the thing with the Epson folder. Now let's just hope the prints look good!

Hi Laura.
Isn't that the most frustrating thing in the world? Anyway, that isn't the right driver. That is the one that ships with Leopard (or something, I don't know - anyway, wrong one).
Try deleting the EPSON folder again, deleting your printer from system prefs/print fax, reinstalling the driver and re-finding your printer. Now that I think about it, I did that, and generally fiddled around in there a bit, before it worked.
I don't know how Macs associate printers with drivers (I'm a PC person and missing my PC!), but once the software in the dmg package was properly installed, the printer automatically picked up the EPSON SP R1800 (1) driver when I told it to go look for printers. I didn't have to choose it from the list of drivers.
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Power PC G5 / Leopard Epson R1800 - back to Tiger???

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Any thoughts on a Leopard uninstall in the mean time?
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Thanks!!!!

I also have the Epson Stylus Photo R1800. Everything appears to be working just fine.
Have you tried running the Epson Printer Utility2 Application? This allows you to do all of the typical printer maintenance (align print heads, check ink levels, do nozzle checks, cleaning, etc.)
Also, have you downloaded Epson's Easy Print software for the R1800? It was released on 11/08/07 for OSX 10.5.
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Epson r1800, imac leopard, cs3 PROBLEMS

ive found a ton of stuff on forums etc - does anyone have a definitive answer/solution to this problem?
when i printed to the r1800 from my g4 laptop, using cs2 all was fine
now on leopard with cs3, cant find all the options (i.e. turn color off etc)
real pain
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Hi Laura.
Isn't that the most frustrating thing in the world? Anyway, that isn't the right driver. That is the one that ships with Leopard (or something, I don't know - anyway, wrong one).
Try deleting the EPSON folder again, deleting your printer from system prefs/print fax, reinstalling the driver and re-finding your printer. Now that I think about it, I did that, and generally fiddled around in there a bit, before it worked.
I don't know how Macs associate printers with drivers (I'm a PC person and missing my PC!), but once the software in the dmg package was properly installed, the printer automatically picked up the EPSON SP R1800 (1) driver when I told it to go look for printers. I didn't have to choose it from the list of drivers.
Hope that helps.
Susan

New Macbook Pro with Snow Leopard, can't check Epson R320 ink levels

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A lady on the phone at Epson told me how to do this a few months ago, but I've forgotten, and I can't find the secret again. I keep getting "not available".
Anybody know how to do this?
Thank you.

This is a tough one for Epson, too. They are quite helpful, and are going to call me back today, after we were trying to fix this for 40 min. yesterday. A new driver for Snow Leopard is coming, but they want to find a way for me to see ink levels now.

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Leopard 10.5.1, Lightroom 1.3.1, Epson R1800 w/612a drivers

Okay - I have been beating my head against the wall for a while now and with the newly release drivers from Epson I HAD renewed hope that things would start printing correctly.
So, with above listed configuration I still am not getting correct prints using Premium Luster Paper and the Epson custom printer profiles.
If someone knows the magic touch to make it work I would love to hear the secret! So far I am keeping my Macbook running Tiger so that I can print - but it is really a pain and frustrating...
Duane...

I have the "new" driver (that was just posted last week) installed and the prints that come out of Lightroom are still significantly darker than the results with Photoshop CS3. I have tried changing color profiles, paper profiles, etc. Hours of experimentation.
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I have just upgraded to Snow Leopard and have lost my epson printer software. On Epson Aus. web page there is no upgrade of their software for my printer with Snow Leopard. Can i download a lesser operating system software for printer?

I have just upgraded to snow leopard and lost my epson printer software. I have checked Epson Aus web site for printer software but they haven't upgraded it for snow leopard. Am i able to download software for a lesser operating system then snow leopard or do i have to purchase a new printer? The model is stylus photo R310.

Have you tried the R300 or R320 software? Typically the software covers a broad spectrum of printers, often providinbg overlap to cover "relatives" of a series.
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Colorsync Engine is still not working correct in Snow Leopard 10.6.4

Colorsync Engine in 10.6.4 causes Print faults in Photoshop CS5.
A light cyan tone is being printed around pictures, where there should be plain paperwite.
I really would appreciate some help.
The problem shows when using custom paper profiles.
(The only situation, in which the problem does not show:
If sRGB is chosen as the printerprofile or if the paperprofile is chosen that belongs to the mediatype chosen in the Epson printersetting. Both are no options as they do not allow to print a colourmanaged print)
So it is obvious that there is still something wrong in the way the different profiles are matched....

I am no beginner - you can believe this.
No insult meant at all. Just no way of knowing how much you do know on the subject.
I have custom paper profiles written for all my papers for this one printer Epson 4800 from targets I printed with no colour management from the printer driver and no colour profile tagged.
No problem there. That is the correct way to print the color patches for profiling.
There is no reason within the paperprofile to make the sourrounding area of the picture to be printed white...
In a very technical sense, there is. All profiles are built to include the ability to choose any rendering intent. So the option for Absolute Colorimetric is in there. Which leads to...
And besides that: How could a profile make an area be printed with a cyan tone that is around the image that is printed. In relative colorimetric rendering. How can you explain this?
It was just a thought. It wasn't until after I mentioned the possibility of using Absolute Colorimetric that you noted you always use Relative Colorimetric.
And the profiles worked before - under 10.5.8.
And they should in Snow Leopard. I'm using all of the printer profiles I made in Leopard for both an Epson Stylus Pro 4000 and a Xerox 6280DN in Snow Leopard. Color is identical from the same applications and the same test images. Both CMYK and RGB. I was able to easily test this as I have both 10.5.x and 10.6.x installed on two drives of the same Mac. So it was just a matter of booting into one, printing the images, then the other to do the same and compare output.
You noted at Adobe's forum:
Around the document, the printable space is filled with a very light colour.
Then printed it 5 to 6 times on the same sheet so it would be easier to see the cyan tone being printed. How was this tone added? I ask because your screen shot shows pure white as the background color. Is it neutral? Such as an RGB value of 253, 253, 253? If everything is correct (settings, profile, etc.), it should build up as a slowly darkening gray, not cyan. But you already know that.
But even if you choose no colour management in the printer driver, there are profiles and media settings that belong to the media you choose in the printer driver.
Not quite sure what you mean there. If you choose no color management, then any profiles in the printer driver are disabled. As far as the media settings, the paper you choose tells the printer the weight of the media going through it, so it can adjust the height of the guide tray. Important for heavy stock (canvas in particular) so it doesn't rub while going through. But much more importantly, it tells the printer how much ink to use. Plain paper will cause the printer to use a different amount of ink than if you choose something like Premium Glossy, even though both may be set to use a print quality setting of 2880 dpi.
The point there is that it is equally important to choose the exact same paper settings in the print driver as were used when the targets were printed, even though color management is turned off.
Actually, the issue may be how old these profiles are. I never print straight to the Epson 4000 since a profile can't account for drift. I go through the full version of the ColorBurst RIP for everything. The reason why is so you can account for hardware drift by re-linearizing when you notice grays starting to go pink/green/blue, etc. All inkjet printers drift as they are used. Meaning, the size of the dots change as the heads and ink pumps wear out. It's slow, but it does shift the color slightly as time goes by. Linearizing brings the gray balance and gamut back to its original point without having to create an entirely new profile.
A straight profile can't account for this. As the printer's color shifts, the profile can't move with it and colors shifts on your output starts to become apparent.

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Thanks,
Peter

Thanks so much for the straight forward explanation my friend! Much appreciated. I've been pulling my hair out over this.
When I got to around 20,000 10MP images (D200) in Lightroom on my 4 year old Powerbook G4 17inch (with two 500GB external drives of course ;-) and a hardware calibrated 22inch Viewsonic VG2230wm LCD), she started to give me the dreaded "pizza of death" far too often and I'd lose 30 minutes of work here and there. Very frustrating. So I recently (about 2 weeks ago) bought the MacBookPro 15inch (2.4Ghz, 250HD) with Leopard pre-installed. I'd gotten so used to printing straight out of LR 90% of the time, that when I finally got everything migrated and went for my first print a couple days ago, I was heartbroken (not to mention, in-a-panic with clients waiting!). Fortunately CS3 still printed flawlessly, but it was far more time consuming to have to create a separate (stacked) PSD file (and eat up additional HD space).
Anyway, I don't know why I'm telling you all this except I feel you probably can empathize with my situation, and your answer has at least put me at ease to know that it isn't some stupid move on MY part that has caused my meticulously built color management house of cards to suddenly crumble into a pile of *hit overnight! ;-) It makes me realize how much emotion I have invested in all the late nights striving for color perfection.
Speaking of late nights, it's after 1am here (Washington state) so I better wrap this for now. but a big thank you goes your way! And as a closing note, your 3800 comment has caused me to spend the last few hours doing research and I discovered that Epson has announced it is doing a year end clearance on the 7800 for $2000 so I'm seriously thinking about heating up one of the pieces of plastic in my wallet tomorrow morning and biting the bullet on a serious 24 inch printer. I can't really afford it right now, but that's never stopped me in the past! hehheh If I've learned any damn thing in my 53 years on this planet, it's that sometimes ya just gotta step up to the plate and swing! And this one is all your fault, you *astard! *just kidding* Hope to see ya around.
Cheers,
Jeff

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This seems to be a common problem with Snow Leopard and the R2880 Epson printers, and it seems that most people are able to solve it by deleting the printer from the printer queue and resetting the printer queue. But that hasn’t solved my problem.
Here’s what I’ve done:
Manually deleted the Epson folder from the hard drive and trashed it, repaired disk permissions, uninstalled the Epson driver, updated software, downloaded and installed the Apple/Epson driver, deleted the printer from the print queue, and reset the printer queue. I’ve done all of these things several times over. And still I get the same error message every time I try to print from the driver with the print options. Does anyone have any other suggestions for a fix?

Some of the previous users had success when they restarted after deleting the /Library/Printers/EPSON and /Library/Caches/Epson folders. You might also try deleting the /Library/Cache folder. There is a solution posted from someone at Epson:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=10909012#10909012
Substitute 2880 for RX580:
Make sure that you have completely removed the Stylus Photo RX580 driver, then install the new driver from System Update:
1. Power off the printer
2. Open System Pref. and Print/Fax
3. Highlight the RX580 printer
4. Click on the ""-"" sign
5. Close Print and Fax
6. Open your Mac's Hard Drive
7. Open the Library Folder
8. Open Printer and delete the EPSON Folder
9. Open the PPDs folder find the Epson Stylus Photo RX580.gz and delete the file
10. Close the PPD and the Printer folder
->11. In the Library folder, open the Caches Folder
->12. Delete the Epson folder
->13. Restart the Mac
14. Power on the printer
15. Click on the Apple Icon and System Update
16. Follow the directions to install the new driver
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