LR 5.4 and embedded Fuji lens profiles -- true or not?

Hello there, I have just bought LR 5.4 and was looking forward to using it with my Fuji X-T1. The camera is supported by I can't find any lens profiles for the XF lenses. I saw on the Web LR apparently used embedded lens profiles found in the RAW files. Is this true? If so, how does it work and why are there unofficial lens profiles available via the lens profile downloader? What benefit do these offer?

Photoshop CC and ACR 8.4 have a way to see when a built-in profile is used, and yes the newer Fuji cameras have built-in lens profiles. Lens Profiles can correct chromatic aberration, geometric distortion and vignetting. Sometimes a built-in profile only corrects some of those, so a downloadable profile could be adding a correction the built-in one doesn't do, or improving on it in some way.
Here is an example of the built-in profile for an X100S correcting for CA and vignetting but not geometric distortion, so it could make sense that another profile could be built to correct for the latter.
My understanding is that the built-in profiles correct for the same issues as the camera does for its own JPGs, and any external profile is for additional corrections.

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Lens Profiles for the Fuji X-E2 and the Adobe Lens Profile Downloader

I just picked up an Fujifilm X-E2 and an 18mm f/2 lens. I noticed that LR 5.4 doesn't have a profile for this lens/body combination and I'm a little unclear whether it is applied automatically (as was the case with the X100s prior to 5.4), or not.
I also noticed that I can download profiles for the X-E1/18mm combination using the Adobe Lens Profile Downloader and wondered if this was a correct thing to do.
Thank you,
Robert

A couple things:
1) ACR 8.4 will show if a built-in profile has been applied and what corrections have been applied, so if you want to post a raw file from your camera and lens combination someone with PS / ACR 8.4 can give feedback about what built-in profiles might be doing.
2) Regarding the X100S, using ACR 8.4 RC, for an example image I downloaded, the built-in profile corrected Chromatic Aberration and Vignetting. The Adobe-supplied external profile corrected Vignetting and Geometric Distortion. So the Adobe-supplied profile does additional Geometric Distoration compared with the built-in profile. However, there was double-correction for Vignetting so one has to turn off the vignetting correction for the particular lens profile to avoid double-correction. Here is a side-by-side example showing these corrections:
This double-correction of vignetting appears to be have been corrected in the final ACR 8.4 and presumably LR 5.4.

8.4RC mentions support for Fuji lens profiles - any details known?

Curious if this is new support or if it's always been there and now ACR shows a message about it. I installed the ACR 8.4RC and loaded a RAW file from my X-T1. Looking at the Lens Corrections tab and the Profile sub-tab, there's now a message at the bottom that says "Built-in lens profile applied: XF14mmF2.2 R. Click for more info." When I clicked, a small dialog box appeared which offered a little more info:
Fujifilm X-T1
XF14mmF2.8R
This raw file contains a built-in lens profile for correcting chromatic aberration and vignetting. The profile has already been applied automatically to this image.
I experimented and got this for RAWs shot with my X-E2 as well and also my 18-55 and 55-200 lenses. I then went back to ACR 8.3 and confirmed that the messages are not there.
I notice that despite what they say, going to the Color sub-tab and checking Remove Chromatic Aberration was still required for some images.
I didn't see this aspect of the update listed in any release notes. Does anyone know any details about this? Is there a way to turn it off if so desired? I'm curious if the Fuji profile is as good as one that could be created with the Lens Profile Creator. The message doesn't mention geometric correction which would be nice.

The information about what built-in lens profile is being applied is new to ACR 8.4, but the application of built-in lens profiles is not new.
Whether those lens profiles do a perfect job is another matter, of course. And just like in previous versions, you cannot turn the built-in profiles off, but if someone creates an external profile those can also be applied.
The one thing to be careful of is if the built-in lens profile also corrects the same aspect as the external profile, for example, vignetting, then it’ll get double-corrected and the way to avoid this is to set the manual strength setting of that profile correction parameter, either vignetting or distortion, to its minimum value, effectively turning off the external profile’s contribution.

Lens profile downloader does not install profile into LR5

I am trying to install a lens profile for a Canon 400mm 5.6 L lens into LR5. I am using the lens profile downloader 1.0.1 this did install this lens profile to my LR 4 version. It appears to install this lens profile into LR5. However when I look in the lens profile area of LR5, the Canon 400mm 5.6 L profile does not show up. I am running win7 64 bit.

Do not copy your profiles to two different places. User-created/downloaded profiles will be ignored in the Adobe-application locations and you don't need to duplicate the Adobe-supplied profiles under the Users folder. This ignoring of user-supplied profiles in the Adobe app folders started some time during the LR4 series.
On Windows 7/8 the following folders are used:
Adobe-supplied lens profiles for Lightroom go under the LR-version\Resources folders:
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop Lightroom X.X\Resources\LensProfiles\1.0
C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop Lightroom X.X\Resources\LensProfiles\1.0 (for 32-bit LR on a 64-bit system)
Adobe-supplied lens profiles for the Camera Raw plug-in used by PS and PSE and PRE go under a ProgramData location:
C:\ProgramData\Adobe\CameraRaw\LensProfiles\1.0
User-supplied profiles either created or downloaded go under the Users location and are seen by both Lightroom and the Camera Raw plug-in:
C:\Users\yourusername\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\CameraRaw\LensProfiles\1.0\Downloaded
where the Downloaded folder seems to hold all the ones I have download for various camea makes and models, and I don't have to seperate them individually by camera manufacturer although it probably doesn't hurt if you have quite a few of them.

Lens Profile in ACR Not Working. Please, help.

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CS5 Extended
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Although it had been working before, now when I open the "lens" tab in ACR I do not get the "profiling" options. Before, it would find my lens and correct it. Now, those functions are not showing up at all.
Instead, all I have is the vignetting and chromatic aberration choices.
I know I'm having a gray moment, but I just can't figure it out.
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks.

Thanks Jeff,
You are absolutely right.
I thought I had upgraded properly, but I had not.
Ran the updater again, and success.
Thanks again.
Steve

Is there a lens profile for Samyang 14mm and Canon 5D2 ?

Hi !
I'm thinking about buying a new Samyang / Rokinon / Bower etc 14mm wide angle full frame lens.
However, this lens has bad moustache distortion on stills images - not good for architecture.
Is there an Adobe lens profile for Adobe Camera Raw (Photoshop CS6 Bridge) for full frame Canon 5D2 / 3 or 1Ds 3 etc ?
It's needed for Mac - don't know if there is any difference.
Advice before I buy would be much appreciated ...

Yay that's great news ... and thanks for such a speedy reply.
Didn't know about the Adobe Lens Profile Downloader ... so have just downloaded it for Mac and found the lens profile.
Appreciate your help ... it'll hopefully be great for correcting the distorion i need.

Looking for D7000 and Tokina 11-16mm Lens Profile

I would think by now someone would have posted this lens profile but I can't find it for the life of me, sorry. I am sure this has been discussed to death but I have downloaded the lens profile creator (haven't figured out how to use it yet) and the Adobe Lens Profile Downloader (doesn't seem to have any third party lens data for the D7000). Any help would be great.
On a side note I am also looking for a lens profile for the Pro-Optic 8mm f/3.5 fisheye, which I knew would be even harder to find, but if anyone has either of those I would greatly appreciate a link to download the profile. Thanks, Scott

There are only Nikon brand lenses in the dB, nothing from Tokina, and nothing for the 11-16mm.
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Lens profile not recognized by LR 5.3

At work, on a Windows 7 laptop, I used the Adobe Lens Profile Creator utility to make an LCP file for a Nikon 1 6.7-13mm zoom lens. After submitting that LCP file to adobe via email, I copied it to my Dropbox. At home, on my Mac OS X 10.8.5, I copied the LCP file from the Dropbox to:
\Library\Application Support\Adobe\Camera Raw\Lens Profiles\1.0\
Then I launched LR 5.3, navigated to a raw (NEF) image shot with this lens, and attempted to apply the lens correction in the Develop pane. Although the Library correctly shows the meta data for the lens and camera, the Lens Correction section in Develop does not even list that lenses LCP file in the drop down menu. Instead, LR attempts to apply a different lens profile which does not match the focal length of the zoom. I'm wondering if the LCP file that I created will only work on a Windows PC since that is where it was created? What other explanation could there be for this problem? Thanks for any advice...

Update - I stayed up late last night and re-ran the lens profile creator at home on my Mac OS X 10.8.5. Placed that LCP file in the directory I originally mentioned above (I overwrote the earlier LCP file created on a Windows machine), launched LR 5.3, and LR successfully matched the new profile with my lens.
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How to use lens profile from Lightroom 5 in Lightroom 4

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Hi Simon,
Thanks for your reply. I figured it out, I downloaded the new version of Raw 6.3 and now I have the lens profile and others such as crop constraint and
chromatic abrerrations. I was looking for these items in Photoshop Raw
Thanks,
Aideen
If I understand you correctly, you found and downloaded a lens profile that matches your camera and lens, and you don't see the profile in LR?
1. Make sure that you relaunch LR after you downloaded the lens profiles.
2. The type of lens profiles (raw or non-raw) matches your image type (raw or non-raw). Namely you can only apply raw lens profiles to raw image files and vice versa for the non-raw profiles.
-Simon
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Help with importing lens profile to Lightroom 5.4 for Windows

Hi,
I'm running Adoble Lightroom 5.4 on Windows. I recently bought a Rokinon 14mm lens for Canon and have a couple lens profiles that I want to try out. I have already tried importing to the two following locations below and nothing showed up when I restarted Lightroom. Any solutions?@@
C: > Users > User > AppData > Roaming > Adobe > CameraRaw > LensProfiles > 1.0 > Then I created a folder called Downloaded > Then I created another folder inside the folder Downloaded called Rokinon and dropped the lens profiles in there.
Here is the other one I tried:
C: > Program Files > Adobe > Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5.4 > Resources > LensProfiles > 1.0 > Then I created a folder called called Rokinon and dropped the lens profiles in there.

Something is weird about this lens profile file. It appears to be for a Canon 85mm lens, not a Samyang 14mm lens, and, as you say, this profile is for JPG files not RAW files. If you want it to apply to raw files you need to change the CameraRawProfile from False to True.
After changing the False to True, because the Make is set to Canon you have to go to the Canon lens list not the Samyang list in the Lens Profile selection dropdown list, or edit the Make to have Samyang..
Because there is an 85 for several focal-length numbers, not 14, I think the correction being applied may be totally wrong. Where did you get this lens profile file? The other profile file you sent has 50mm in some focal-length areas and 85 in others.
To be able to tell if this, or the other profile, is reasonable, you probably need to take a picture of something with a grid of lines, like a brick wall and see if there is barrel or pincushion distortion that is corrected or worsened.
Here is a screencapture of the file as it looks in a text editor with notes about what seems wrong:

Trouble trying to use Adobe Lens Profile Downloader

Hi
Ive got a legal copy of Lightroom, downloaded & installed Air, downloaded and installed Adobe Lens Profile Downloader, got 2 Adobe accounts but cannot get either account to log in using the Adobe Lens Profile Downloader, so I cannot even start to download lens profiles.
Any suggestions please?
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PS if I go to photoshop.com as indicated in Adobe Lens Profile Downloader, neither account logs me in even though Ive reset both passwords from photoshop.com, but both log me in on adobe.com, hence me being able to post here!

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I need the lens profile for nikon 28 - 70

By the way who the heck wants to chat with some guy in a foreign that is no help ? The is your adobe chat help LOL
I need the lens profile for nikon 28 - 70 where to down load ????

Download and install Adobe Lens Profile Downloader.
With this program you can download a lens profile for 28-70mm f/2.8 for DX or FX format, raw only. Also available 28-70mm f/3.5-4.5 for DX, raw only.

Adobe Lens profile Downloader doesn't install on Mac OS/X

I want to include Zuiko Olympus and panasonic/Leica lens profiles to be used inside Lightroom 4.3
I try to install Adobe Lens Downloader 1.0.1.air and get an error during the installation process
I am using the last release of AdobeAIR.dmg
My O/X is 10.6.8
Soory the image is in French ...so here is the translation for US readers
"Sorry, an error has occurred.
This application cannot be installed because this installer has been misconfigured. Please contact the application author for assistance."
Any ideas?
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I have the same problem on Windows 7 Pro, its not about McIntosh, its probably an "Air-Error".
When I started Lens Profile Downloader, an Air update prompt popped up. So I updated Air to v3.3 if my memory serves, after which yet another Air update prompt appeared, this time to version 3.6. I installed that one too. After which I found on Adobe web pages Lens Profile Downloader 1_0_1, but ONLY as an *.air file, no *.exe.
Ah well, why to go the simple way, lets develop our own "downloader" of a "kind 3000 and 7", and maintain it, just like every camera just have to have its own raw format.
With this *.air file and the Air 3.6 I also get this installation error:
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Lens Profile Tool Addition – White Balance Offset Correction

I have noticed that my Canon 17-40mm and 70-200mm F4 IS lenses have virtually identical color temperature and can use the same white balance setting. My Sigma 50mm F2.8 Macro lens is another story, requiring almost 200K and +15 change to White Balance sliders. I am sure there are cases where Canon’s lenses will differ more widely and exhibit a similar degree of white balance differences, not to mention use of UV or 1B protection filters. An 85mm F1.2 lens using “rare earth” low dispersion glass, will have a warmer color temperature than a lens using more common glass elements.
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I did some measurements of change in camera profile for Sunny Daylight (~5,500K), Cloudy (8,000K+), and Tungsten (~2,900K) lighting. There was no measurable change in rendering of the ColorChecker Passport images for the extreme Sunny to Cloudy conditions, and only very slight changewhen comparing the Tungsten profile. This was done by loading a ColorChecker Passport image file and applying alternate profiles:
EXAMPLE:
Open a DaylightColorChecker Passport image file in LR, apply Cloudy Camera Profile, and adjust White Balance for the gray scale patches using the Eyedropper Tool. Then look at the 'Before' and 'After' images....you will see NO visual change to any of the color patches. I saw only a very slight change when doing this with the Daylight to Tungsten (artificial light source) comparison.
The relatively small change in color balance between lenses (~500K max.) should have no measurable or visible affect to the ColorChecker Passport created "Camera Profile." The ColorChecker Passport or any other "Camera Profile" creation tool is first and foremost correcting for differences in the camera's image sensor color rendering.
SUGGESTION:
Since this white balance difference is a factor of the lens, it would be very convenient to add another tool in Lightroom's and Camera Raw Lens Profile panel for “White Balance Offset.” This allows setup of LR defaults for one specific lens type, such as your most used lens. Then you use the new ‘Lens Profile’ located ‘White Balance Offset’ correction tool to adjust white balance for all of your other lenses. In addition, Adobe or camera manufacturers could also provide the 'White Balance Offset Correction' as a function of the lens spectral response deviation from linear. This would provide a "uniform method" of calculating and adding the White Balance correction to the 'Lens Profile.' Since this is a factor of the lens only, the “lens offset correction” can be used with ANY lens/camera body pairing, The current LR and Camera Raw White Balance settings are then only used for “Global” correction of lighting conditions, and NOT for lens differences.
This is a linear mathematical function,which should be extremely easy for Adobe to add the ‘White Balance Offset’ correction feature to LR’s and Camera Raw's Lens Profile GUI. Just like many other tools in LR that some don't use, you can choose to use it or not!

Interesting suggestion. Thanks. -Simon

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