LR and IPTC fields

I have been running a photoblog at Digital-Photo for over 3 years now. I have noticed that ever since I have started to use Lightroom it gave me an added value of populating IPTC fields in Gallery 2 (web gallery I use). The IPTC seems to be very broad and I would like to understand how to use properly most if not all the fields within Lightroom.
My question/request for Lightroom developers: can we get some build in selectors for many of standard IPTC fields with descriptions, please? This way I would not have to spend hours each time I get a new "genre code" etc.
Here is a neutral and work safe example of what details show up for me: abstract photograph or an air vent
Is anyone else in the community use those codes beyond Caption, Keywords and Copyright, and if so what gally applicatation are you using?
Ted

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I have got two photos by mail from iPhoto. My friend has put descriptions in the description field. The I got the mail I saw the description below each photo. If I check the photos with Preview they have Exif and JFIF fields but no IPTC field.

I have got two photos by mail from iPhoto. My friend has put descriptions in the description field. The I got the mail I saw the description below each photo. If I check the photos with Preview they have Exif and JFIF fields but no IPTC field.

Does you friend use any accented letters in the descriptions? That might cause it but I don't know for sure.
Has he run any repair operations on his library, i.e. repairing the database file? Another possible fixe that's easy to apply is the following:
1 - delete the iPhoto preference file, com.apple.iPhoto.plist, that resides in your
Home/Library/ Preferences folder.
2 - delete iPhoto's cache folder(s):
Home/Library/Containers/com.apple.iPhoto
and, if there is one, the
Home/Library/Caches/com.apple.iPhoto folder
3 - reboot, launch iPhoto and try again.
NOTE: In Lion and Mountain Lion the Home/Library folder is now invisible. To make it permanently visible enter the following in the Terminal application window: chflags nohidden ~/Library and press the Return key - 10.7: Un-hide the User Library folder.
For Mavericks, 10.9, go to your Home folder and use the View ➙ Show View Options menu to bring the this window:
The demo version of GraphicConverter can be used to view/check/edit the ITPC fields in an image file after exporting.

Location Field and IPTC

Can anyone tell me what IPTC field LR uses for the Location field please? I tried the http://www.controlledvocabulary.com/imagedatabases/iptc_core_mapped.pdf link mentioned in other posts, but Location is not mapped to anything.
I am trying to use a photo gallery program called Gallery and they have a field caleld Sublocation which I have seen referred to as Location, but it is clear as mud to me!!!

It's sub-location. I use it as a higher level than city or when city is inappropriate (often true for my photography). For example, Yellowstone National Park.
Is it this gallery program that you are using?
http://gallery.menalto.com/
When I set up my galleries I couldn't get it to recognize location at all (sub-location). I read some fixes to get it to work but it never did. So I copy it to another field outside of LR and use that field. This may have been fixed, but when I was setting mine up people didn't seem to think a fix would come soon. I'm using Gallery 2.2. If you get location to work, I'd appreciate learning how!
Judy

Missing IPTC Fields In Aperture 2

Okay, I am switching from Lightroom to Aperture 2 after using Lightroom for roughly one year. Let me back up... I am trying to switch. Right off the bat, I am running into a problem that really has me perplexed... why on earth did Apple leave out certain IPTC fields, but leave in fields that are completely (at least in my humble opinion) useless to photography. Which fields? These are left out:
- CCI City *
- CCI Country *
- CCI Address *
- CCI Postal Code *
- CCI State/Province *
- CCI Email *
- CCI Phone *
- CCI URL *
- ISO Country Code *
- Intellectual Genre
- Location *
- Rights Usage Terms *
- IPTC Subject Code
- IPTC Scene
Most of these, marked with an asterisk, are crucial to me, and are necessary when sending images to certain clients of mine. In the meantime, Apple, for some bizarre reason, chose to include the following, useless fields:
- Action Advised
- Audio Duration
- Audio Outcue
- Audio Sampling Rate
- Audio Sampling Re... (can't read this one because Aperture refuses to show me the whole field name no matter how wide I make the metadata panel)
- Audio Type
This makes absolutely no sense to me, and I see no convenient way to get around this. This is compounded by the fact that IPTC seems to be transitioning to Core (XMP) standards, which means the field names are changed. Aperture is on version 2, and yet the IPTC support is this behind the times?
I hope someone has some good news to help rectify this.

ifarlow wrote:
I just fired up Aperture 2 after reading your Post, and I see this for one of my images:
Lens Model: EF24-70mm f/2.8L USM
It is under EXIF - Expanded under the Metadata tab. Do you not see this?
No, I didn't at first. First off - it does not show up at all in images I imported under 1.x and have not migrated to 2.0 version of RAW processing. Then - I see additional data under EXIF with new imports under Aperture 2.0 and images with updated RAW processors - but still not lens model. However, I then edited EXIF and found lens model. I simply added that field to my EXIF metadata, and now I can see (and search on) lens model for all of my images!
Thanks for pointing that out - no telling how long it would have been before I found it. Its a shame this isn't a question I posted, or I would give the "solved" points.
Now, if we can just find your metadata fields...
Scott

Reset or Edit IPTC Fields Stored Values

Previous values used in IPTC fields are stored so that values can be auto-filled as a field is entered. I would like to remove some of the "stored values" for a field. How can I do this?
Thanks,

You can batch change. Select the photos you want to edit, batch change, leave the field empty, and check the "replace" checkbox.

IPTC-fields too small

We are encouraged to use metadata with our pictures.
Why - in the Organizer - are the IPTC fields so small. Description just one scrolling line Keywords - normally not many, have been granted 3 lines! The editor "file information" is OK.

In PSE11 you can select a thumbnail and click on the three small dots to the right of IPTC. You have many fields to add data (see image) and you can also select multiple thumbnails, to add, append or overwrite metadata and save it to files.

IPTC fields

Does anyone know where I can find scripts for filling in IPTC fields on photos via an Automator workflow?
I have previously used Automator workflows to fill in the IPTC fields of my digital photos. I've recently reinstalled my computer and now the workflows don't work - I seem to remember downloading some scripts and included one for IPTC date in the workflows. I guess they got wiped when I reinstalled - any idea were I could dig them up? The most important element for me was the bit that writes the file name into one of the IPTC fields.

Hi Bebbs,
Does this help...
http://cva.stanford.edu/people/davidbbs/photos/IPTCkeywords_tofilename/
Or this...
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1499998

Location IPTC field LR- PS survives file info edit...?

Hello all.
I like to put exact location information and notes into a file (within LR2) using the "location" field.
When I export these images I do not want this field to be included inthe jpeg's meta data.
I generally run a watermarking droplet/action after the LR export so can set that to remove the data via the File Info dialog in PS CS4.
However, it removes it fine and upon reopening the finished file in PS, the file info dialog shows that that the location field (in IPTC) is empty. All good.... Opening the image in photomechanic shows the field is still populated. Also looking at the jpeg in a text editor shows the info is indeed there.
The procedure above works fine for the "City", "State", and "Country" fields, it is just "location" that survives.
I have tried it all manually (rather than as part of an action) as well and the problem persists.
Any help appreciated!
Thanks,
Richard

Just made some investigations with ExifTool. Files saved as jpegs from photoshop somehow retain their location in IPTC, but no XMP (so it's the other way around my original assumption):
C:\>exiftool -iptc:sub-location "C:\20080715_1569.jpg"
Sub-location : Delfin Market
C:\>exiftool -xmp:location "C:\20080715_1569.jpg"
... nothing here ...
This happens on both JPEGs exported from Lightroom and original JPEGs that simply had their xmp metadata saved in Lightroom.
And by the way, if the JPEG is then saved in Photoshop via Save For Web, both IPTC and XMP get blank. So, if you modify your droplet to save for web (with All Metadata included), that could solve your problem.
Everything points to a bug in Photoshop.

IPTC field codes -- Bridge IPTC Core metadata

Is there a reference somewhere as to which IPTC codes match up with the IPTC Core fields in Bridge metadata?
A list of the codes is here, so you know what I'm talking about. For example, the Description field in Bridge metadata corresponds to the Caption / #120 code in this list:
http://www.fotoware.com/binaries/fsp50/userguide/28.htm
I'm using a plug-in that writes image info from a database into the corresponding file's IPTC fields based on the IPTC code, but the names of the fields on the list of codes don't match up with what they're called in Bridge, so it's taking a lot of trial and error to figure out where things go.

Never mind, found one. It doesn't mention Bridge specifically, but it has Photoshop and Lightroom (along with several other image-browsing apps) and both seem similar to Bridge:
http://www.controlledvocabulary.com/imagedatabases/iptc_core_mapped.pdf

Aperture 3 - Face recognition and IPTC

I just upgrade my library from AP2 to AP3 and I was trying to use the face recognition feature.
I've got 2 questions regarding this feature:
1- Is anybody know if AP write the names enter with the face function in an IPTC field or if this info is proprietary to AP?
2- In AP2 I used to write the name of the people in the KeyWord IPTC field. Can we copy automatically (with a script for example) the values of the KeyWord field in the "face" field?
Re-writting all the names on all the pictures of my library will be very painful, so I try to find a fast way to do it. If any of you already found a way to do it, it will be very helpful.
Thanks

right questions
I am also searching for a solution to:
- write the locations to the IPTC-fields
- write the "faces" to IPTC-keywords
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CS3 Extended - IPTC field limit of 32 characters?

When I open an image, then save it - Photoshop will shorten the information in the Credit field to about 32 characters - BUT not all the times!!?? PS has saved this shorter version to the side in the 'pull down' area. I'm not positive if PS is shortening or using the 'saved' wrong version.
I have two questions -
Is there a character limit?
Is there a way to remove typos in the 'saved' area of Credit or other IPTC fields within PS?
Thank you
Lloyd

If you store a 33-character text in the IPTC Sublocation field in LR, do Metadata > Save To File, and then check the metadata with Exiftool, you'll see that the IPTC:Sub-location field contains a truncated 32-character value, while XMP:Location contains the full 33-character value. This conforms to the industry standards.
The terminology is horribly confusing. In the JPEG file format, there are several sections of metadata, including EXIF, IPTC, and XMP. EXIF and IPTC are defined by older standards (cameras create EXIF metadata, and applications create and add to both EXIF and IPTC metdata). The XMP section is defined by a newer industry standard, and it was designed to incorporate all of the fields that can be stored in EXIF and IPTC; a subset of the XMP fields (a "namespace") is called the "IPTC Core" and defines fields similar to the legacy IPTC fields but without the restrictions.
A recent standard, the Metadata Working Group's Guidelines for Handling Image Metadata 2.0, defines the rules for how the three sections of metadata (EXIF, IPTC, and XMP) should be "synchronized". LR appears to mostly conform to that standard.

Some IPTC fields 32 characters truncated by Lightroom

Hi,
I've got lots of images with certain IPTC fields (like "location") having length of greater than 32 characters. I'm noticing that these are being truncated to 32 characters when using "Save Metadata to File" in LR4 beta.
I'm not a metadata expert, but my understanding is that the "old" IPTC-IIM spec had character length limitations, but not XMP or "IPTC Core", which has been around for some time now. I think the following quote summarizes what I'm seeing:
Do we need to worry about older storage methods?
< snip >
This can happen several ways, but one cause is the legacy IPTC-IIM schema limits the number of characters per field. An IPTC Core field might be truncated when saved in a corresponding IPTC-IIM field. When moving back and forth between tools that only understand the legacy format and those that recognize both the newer and older formats, synchronizing the information becomes extremely important.
Source: http://www.photometadata.org/node/38
Is what I'm seeing expected? Is there some way to tell LR to allow IPTC fields (like "location") to be greater than 32 characters? Does LR3 exhibit this same behavior or is this a LR4 specific issue? (I'm not a LR3 user, considering the switch to LR though)
Thanks
Chris

If you store a 33-character text in the IPTC Sublocation field in LR, do Metadata > Save To File, and then check the metadata with Exiftool, you'll see that the IPTC:Sub-location field contains a truncated 32-character value, while XMP:Location contains the full 33-character value. This conforms to the industry standards.
The terminology is horribly confusing. In the JPEG file format, there are several sections of metadata, including EXIF, IPTC, and XMP. EXIF and IPTC are defined by older standards (cameras create EXIF metadata, and applications create and add to both EXIF and IPTC metdata). The XMP section is defined by a newer industry standard, and it was designed to incorporate all of the fields that can be stored in EXIF and IPTC; a subset of the XMP fields (a "namespace") is called the "IPTC Core" and defines fields similar to the legacy IPTC fields but without the restrictions.
A recent standard, the Metadata Working Group's Guidelines for Handling Image Metadata 2.0, defines the rules for how the three sections of metadata (EXIF, IPTC, and XMP) should be "synchronized". LR appears to mostly conform to that standard.

Search according IPTC field "other categories"

Hi,
Is it possible to search in the IPTC field "Other Categories"
or to customize the search engine in this way?
I have some of my picture grouped with specific names in the "Other Categories" field, put the search gives no output, regardless what search
criteria is selected (IPTC, ALL..)
Did I miss something or is it currently not available?
Thanks,
Regards Robert

LR doesn't seem to be very consistent in what you can or can't search for using Find. I did some quick tests on some of the fields, and found this:
With "IPTC" selected for the Metadata panel...
Under the Content section, you can search for:
Headline
Caption
IPTC Subject Code
Description Writer
You can't search for:
Category
Other Categories
Under the Status section you can search for all the fields:
Title
Job Identifier
Instructions
Provider
Source
Why can't you search for Categories or Other Categories? Is this a bug, or one of those intended design things? Maybe someone in the know can clarify.
Also, if there's a list somewhere of what can searched, and more importantly what cannot, it would be helpful.

XMP and IPTC mapping

Is there a document that identifies which fields in Photoshop and Illustrator "file info" map to the corresponding IPTC field and XMP field repectivly. Also, if I enter a value in a field that is represented in both standards will both fields be populated in the image file?
Regards
Chris

The 'File Info' in Photoshop since version 3.0 is stored in numerous places in a given file for various formats.
On the Macintosh, some information is stored in the resource fork for any file format:
The keywords are stored in a 'KeyW' resource and the caption is stored in a 'TEXT' resource. These resources are referenced by the 'pnot' resource. This information is readable by Aldus Fetch (now Extensis Portfolio). For more information on the format of these resources see:
Inside Machintosh: QuickTime Components
Aldus Fetch Awareness Developer's Toolkit
All of the data from File Info is stored in an 'ANPA 1000' resource. The data in this resource is stored as an IPTC-IIM version 2, record 2. For more information on the format of this resource see:
"Information Interchange Model (IIM) version 4"
Available online at:
Telephone: +44 1753 705051
Facsimile: +44 1753 831541
E-mail: David Allen, Managing Director
Post: IPTC
Royal Albert House
Sheet Street
Windsor
Berkshire
SL4 1BE
UK
On all platforms, the IIM is also stored in the data fork of the file. For file formats that can support Photoshop's image resources the data is stored as an image resource '1028' (kCaptionID) in IPTC-IIM record 2 format.
For TIFF files the caption data is stored in an image description tag '270' and all the information is stored as an IPTC-NAA record 2 in tag '33723' the tag number was chosen by inspecting files written by Iron Mike software, and is supposed to be defined in a Rich TIFF specification that I haven't been able to track down. The tag is also specified in:
NSK TIFF
The Japan Newspaper Publishers & Editors Association
Nippon Press Center Building
2-2-1 Uchlsaiwai-cho
Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo 100
For more information about the TIFF format see:
"TIFF Revision 6.0"
Available online at:
In reading the files, the following order is used with information read
lower on the list replacing information read higher:
* kCaptionID image resource
* For old Photoshop files, the caption data is read from the image resource '1008' (kOldCaptionID) or '1020' (kPrintCaptionID) (it cannot appear in both). Old PrintCaption data could coinside with caption data in some beta releases in this case the print caption data is ignored.
[NOTE version 3.0 and 3.0.1: Print caption was appended to the caption
information but this caused duplicate captions in TIFF files. This bug was fixed for version 3.0.2]
* Image Description Tag (TIFF only)
* IPTC-NAA Tag (TIFF only)
[NOTE version 3.0 and 3.0.1: TIFF data did not override the previous image resources. This bug was fixed for version 3.0.2.]
* 'pnot' resource related data (keywords and caption) (Mac only)
* 'ANPA' resource (Mac only)
[Additions for Photoshop 7.0]
* XMP Data - The kCaptionID image resource is written out with a digest
signature. The digest is re-generated from the above information when
a file is opened. If the digest doesn't match then the XMP information
for properties that that are contained by the kCaptionID resource
(IIM records, photoshop:WebStatement, and photoshop:Marked) are
dropped from the XMP Data. Otherwise, the XMP Data takes precedence over all previous data.
NOTE: The TIFF information comes prior to the image resource information on this list. This means that an edit to the TIFF info will not be recognized unless the image resource information is removed.
Photoshop Schema
The namespace prefix is ÒphotoshopÓ. The namespace is http://ns.adobe.com/photoshop/1.0/.
Property Type IIM Record Alias Category
photoshop:Caption Text 2:120 Caption/Abstract dc:description/*[@xml:lang='x-default'] External
photoshop:Author ProperName 2:80 By-line dc:creator/*[1] External
photoshop:Title Text 2:05 Object Name dc:title/*[@xml:lang='x-default'] External
photoshop:Keywords bag Text 2:25 Keywords dc:subject External
photoshop:WebStatement URL xapRights:WebStatement External
photoshop:Copyright Text 2:116 Copyright Notice dc:rights/*[@xml:lang='x-default'] External
photoshop:CaptionWriter ProperName 2:122 Writer/Editor External
photoshop:Headline Text 2:105 Headline External
photoshop:Instructions Text 2:40 Special Instructions External
photoshop:AuthorsPosition Text 2:85 By-line Title External
photoshop:Credit Text 2:110 Credit External
photoshop:Source Text 2:115 Source External
photoshop:DateCreated Date 2:55 Date Created (1) External
photoshop:City Text 2:90 City External
photoshop:State Text 2:95 Province/State External
photoshop:Country Text 2:101 Country/Primary Location Name External
photoshop:TransmissionReference Text 2:103 Original Transmission Reference External
photoshop:Category Text 2:15 Category (2) External
photoshop:Marked Boolean xapRights:Marked External
photoshop:SupplementalCategories bag Text 2:20 Supplemental Category External
photoshop:Urgency Integer 2:10 Urgency (3) External
photoshop:JobName (4) Text xapBJ:JobRef/*[1] External
xapMM:ManageTo (5) URL Relational
xapMM:Manager (5, 6) AgentName Relational
xapMM:DocumentID (7) URI Internal
(1) Explicitly not aliased to the internal creation date which denotes the document creation. This field is intended to follow the IIM conventions:
Designates the date the intellectual content of the document was created rather than the date of the creation of the physical representation. Thus a photo taken during the American Civil War would carry a creation date during that epoch (1861-1865) rather than the date the photo was digitized for archiving.
(2) This field is limited to three 7 bit ASCII characters only.
(3) Valid range is 1-8.
(4) Not aliased in Photoshop 7.0 due to bug in XMP.
(5) If xapMM:Manager is not "AdobeARM" and the ARM is not managing this
document then these properties are preserved.
(6) Set to "AdobeARM" for managed files.
(7) DocumentID will be set if it was previously blank and once set it is especially "sticky" and won't be lost even if other metadata takes
precedent and can not be set by loading XMP data from File Info although plug-ins are able to set, but not clear, this property.

Want the remove IPTC fields by export

I have a lot of pictures that i will export with a preset.
Because of privacy matters i must remove the IPTC-fields such as sublocation, city, state / province.
Can get that done. To much pictures to remove these fields in Photoshop after the export one by one.....
Naturally i want to keep this info in the field in my originals !
Thanks !

Hi John, I have installed the metadata wrangler but no luck....
Maybe it has something to do with the fact that some of the pictures were originally imported with PhotoMechanic.
Thanks for your answer !
Piet Van de Eynde (the writer of excellent LR-books) came up with a answer that looks interesting, i will try that one ! but it is not for daily use on a speedy workflow...
Save locations
For photos captured within a defined proximity, you can create a saved location. For example, if you travel to Greece for a photo shoot for a client, you can create a saved location that encompasses the islands you visited.
In the Map module, navigate to a location on the map and click the + button in the Saved Locations panel. The Saved Location panel is on the left side of the Lightroom window.
In the New Location dialog box, enter a name for the location and select a folder to save it in.
Radius
Defines a radius, in feet, miles, meters, or kilometers, from the center of the visible map area.
Private
Removes all IPTC location metadata, including GPS coordinates, Sublocation, City, State/Province, Country, and ISO Country Code, when photos in the saved location are exported from Lightroom.
Click Create.The location appears on the map marked by a white circle, with one pin in the center and another pin on the perimeter.
When working with saved locations, do any of the following:
Select or deselect a location in the Saved Locations panel to view it on the map.
The Saved Locations panel in the Map module
To add photos to the location, do one of the following:
Drag one or more photos from the Filmstrip into the white circle in the map.
Select one or more photos in the Filmstrip and select the check box next to the location name in the Saved Locations panel.
To go to a location on the map, click the right-arrow button by the location name in Saved Locations panel.
To edit a location, right-click (Windows) or Control-click (Mac OS) it in the Saved Locations panel and choose Location Options.Tip: You can also drag the pin at the top of the location circle in the map to adjust the radius. Drag the pin in the center of the circle to move the location on the map.
To remove a location, select it in the Saved Locations panel and click the minus ( - ) button. Or, right-click (Windows) or Control-click (Mac OS) it in the Saved Locations panel or on the map and choose Delete.

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