LR, dual displays, Photoshop and Win7 (solved)

I've been reading all morning and this is what I think I now know:
Photoshop will use discrete monitor profiles to properly display images on either monitor of a calibrated and profiled dual monitor setup.
Lightroom (and, apparently, Bridge according to some people) uses only the profile associated with the primary display and so the images displayed on the secondary monitor are not properly color managed.
I hope I'm incorrect about that last point and that LR 4 behaves the same as Photoshop with regard to dual monitors and color profiles. Anyone know for sure?
Edit: Never mind. I found a whacked profile for testing purposes. It appears LR and Bridge handle discrete profiles just as well as Photoshop.

This is the way I work: Don't use Lightroom in a full screen window but enlarge the Lightroom Window from the leftside of monitor one into the right-hand side monitor, but just the right panel visable on monitor 2. If you hit the F6 and F7 keys the left- and bottompanels disappear and you have allmost a full screen to work with, and the devolop panel remains on the richt-hand side on monitor 2. Just try, it works complete well at me. gr. Jaap <[email protected]> schreef in bericht news:[email protected].. > > > I cannot seem to find this information anywhere. > > > > > You probably didn't expect to find the topic in the "Lr Features requests" > forum ...<g>... > > Can anyone tell me if LR supports dual displays? That is the develop > screen > on one screen and library on the other? > > > > > The answer is 'no', but you can believe Adobe has already heard an earful. > I suspect it'll come ... eventually. > > Part of the surprise and criticism has come from me .. but I have to admit > Lr's interface to a single monitor is one of the best I've seen. > > cheerios :o)

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However I put the OS menu bar on the AC display, yet work back on the Eizo, this does NOT happen. No cursor artifacts. Well, at least I can summon the issue
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I'm using a Macbook Pro connected to an Apple Cinema Display under OS 10.5.8. Both monitors are calibrated and I export from Lightroom to Photoshop in ProPhoto. The Photoshop working colour space is also ProPhoto so there is no mismatch there.
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Thanks for your reply!
I'm not too worried about 10.6 because I'm not using it ( I reverted to 10.5.8 precisely because of the colour issues).
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The mid-07 MBP arrived and, it had 128MB vram AGAIN!
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I know I can turn of the sleeping capabilities of the MBP and shut the lid and only use one screen but that's a quite lame solution.
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The Hatter,
I am a novice at Mac so I read all I can. From what I understand the NEC monitors I bought require Display Port for their maximum performance. The GTX 680 only has DVI outputs. Difference from what I understand is larger bandwidth with the DP.
You said I have the 4000 for CUDA. I am not all that familiar with CUDA and when I do read about it I do not understand it.
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I have the same question. It seems that Adobe is almost impossible to contact (I ended up here at the forums to ask the same question).
I will never buy another Adobe product again if I can get another program to replace it. If this is customer service then it is NON EXISTENT!
I notice that your question has not been answered and why should you have to get the information from a forum? I know of no other company that makes you do this for simple product information.
NOT HAPPY with this version of arrogant customer service (nor am I happy about renting Photoshop products into the future - it is just a money grab in my opinion). I will be voting with my feet and going elsewhere in future.

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