LR Imported NEF and JPEG Together Despite "Treat JPEGS ..." being checked

During a two day workshop with Jerry Courvoisier recently, we were learning to import photos to LF that were previously on our computers. I shoot ONLY in RAW, but save work done in Bridge/ACR and Elements as JPEGs. I want to use Lightroom for inventory control and thus want to import all of my 2010 original RAW and also the JPEG work done on those RAW files into LR. When I did this for the class, I followed Jerry's instruction to check off the "Treat JPEG files next to raw files as separate photos" in the General Preferences Import Options but when we looked in the catalog, the photos arrived as one with a name of DSC_0545.NEF+JPEG. Jerry was stumped and suggested I write you to all for help. Please, I want to centralize all of my photos (originals and worked on JPEG versions of them) but need them to be separate. How can this be done?

Still not enough information to really give you much help. So I will ask some questions.
Have these images already been imported into Lightroom? If they have then you will need to delete them from Lightroom, i.e. remove them from the catalog.
Are the JPEG images named the same except for the extension? If they are not then it will be difficult to keep them together with the raw files.
Are the JPEG images in the same folder with the raw images? That is where they should be if you want them to be together in Lightroom.
It really doesn't matter whether the JPEG has been edited or not. If the files are not in Lightroom then all you have to do is import them using the "add" option. The same is true of the raw images. Adding them to the catalog does not move them, it simply adds them to the catalog so that you can see them in Lightroom and make adjustments. If the raw images and the JPEG images have the same name except for the extension, if you sort by filename in Lightroom I think they should be displayed together.
Just one other thought about your JPEG images. If you have edited them in Elements, whatever changes have been made are going to be part of your original JPEG image in Lightroom. There is no way that you will be able to undo those changes. JPEG editing in Elements, or Photoshop for that matter, become permanent changes to the pixel data. And once those changes have been saved they are part of the image permanently.

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You assume that I speak and write Dutch.
My apologies to all of you who don't/cannot read/understand Dutch. The following is in Dutch and not Double Dutch.
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If someone wants the explanation in English: post a message.
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