LR Profiles question

Under the bottom right panel "Camera Calibration" there is drop down menu called "profiles". In that drop down there are numerous profiiles: ACR 4.4, ACR 4.3, Adobe Standard, Camera D2X Mode 1 (what the does that stand for?), and many others. I have a Nikon D3. I'm wondering why my camera profiile is not in there. Do I somehow have to enter it? I thought the profiles were automatically updated to include all the newest cameras?

There is extensive information on DNG profiles available here: http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/DNG_Profiles:FAQ
A specific answer to your question is under "Trouble Shooting." Here is what it says:
Why are Nikon D2X profiles showing up in the profile menu in Camera Raw and Lightroom, even though my camera isn't a D2X?
Despite the name, the D2X Mode 1, D2X Mode 2, and D2X Mode 3 profiles aren't actually profiles for the D2X camera. These are profiles designed to match the corresponding Nikon Picture Controls of the same name. To make this easier to understand, open Nikon View NX (or Capture NX) and examine the Picture Controls menu. There are six built-in settings: Standard, Neutral, Vivid, D2X Mode 1, D2X Mode 2, and D2X Mode 3. Those last 3 contain the "D2X" name even for non-D2X cameras. In other words, this is Nikon's naming convention.

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Line resets and stuck profiles (question not issue...

One of the mods in their calls to me mentioned that they are happy to do some line resets for me but want to avoid them too often since this caused the DLM to get concerned over the line status. [I have no reason to doubt this statement]
Now in my case what I sometimes could do with is getting a IP profile unstuck ie when it passed the point where it should have changed but has not and yes the BT system says that it did.
Is this the same thing as a line reset (which one would think it shoudl not really be) and if not can anyone confirm that this does not anger the DLM?
[the reason for asking is that normally my profile should go up within 24 hours at most which is bearable but recently it has stuck twice, ie BT says 1000 but speedtester and throughput showed 750].
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Hope this helps.
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Color Profile Question

I recently purchased a new PC and have been working from it for about a month or so without any issues. My client sent me an email saying that her images were appearing muted on her computer screen prior to printing them off of a few common photo labs. I looked into it and tried it myself and it was indeed correct. All of the images edited on my new PC were muted...my first instinct was that it was the color profile. I converted the image to sRGB and it fixed the problem. Now comes the problem....my photos are saving under the wrong color profile. How do I prevent this from happening so that all my images are automatically saved the my preference of color profile. I hope this makes sense because my mind is spinning from trying to figure this out! Thanks in advance!

audi454 wrote:
1. AdobeRGB
2. Im not sure what you mean, preferences in PSE?
3. My client has a print release, I use WHCC to print my pictures and I believe they require sRGB as well.
4. Yes I always shoot in RAW.
Thanks for taking the time to help, I looked at my Lightroom color settings since that's how I import my pics and it was set on Adobe Pro I believe... I changed it to sRGB.
Sent from my iPhone
Thanks for the info : I'll start with the 4th question because it's the less known factor with Elements
If you shoot raw, the settings of your camera (Adobe RGB) will be ignored. This setting works only with the out of camera jpegs. A 'raw' file has no color profile, so PSE needs to know which profile you want for the conversion. You won't find any menu or dialog entries in ACR for that purpose. So, to convert the file when you 'Open' in the editor, PSE looks at the settings in your editor (my question #2, Menu Edit/Color settings...
If you have chosen option 1, 'Always optimize for computer screens', PSE will convert the raw file to sRGB profile.
If you have chosen 'Always optimize for printing', PSE will convert to aRGB...
If you want to take advantage of the slightly wider color space of Adobe RGB because your home printer can use it, select the second option, but if you have to send the picture in sRGB, do not forget to convert before sending. Menu /image/convert color profile.
If you don't want to bother, use sRGB with the option 1. You won't risk forgetting to convert the client version.
Never use 'No color management' in the menu /edit/color settings
If you first convert to sRGB with option 1, you won't get any advantage to convert to aRGB afterwards

ISE 1.x profiler question (Network Scan Action & Exception Action)

Could someone please explain the following based on this scenario:
Say you create a Profiler Policy called “DeviceBrandX” and you set the Minimum Certainty Factor to 20 and you create a condition to profile based on a check for condition based on host-name in DHCP and you assign the condition a Certainty Factor Increases of 10. In additoin you define an Exception Action and a Network Scan (NMAP) Action in the policy.
Here are the two questions:
If you create another condition that initiates a scan Network Scan (NMAP) Action to scan say for OS - how does the scan influence the Certainty Factor?
Also if you create a condition that initiates Exception Action - how does that influence the Certainty Factor?
Thanks,
Allen

Hey Tarik,
Thank you for the response; I have looked at the apple-device policy, I see that the “* Exception Action” field is = NONE. I only see that the Network Scan (NMAP) Action is set to OS-scan. In fact I have looked at all the generic policies and none have an “* Exception Action” field set.
I can see that under the Rules configuration you can set the rule to "Take Exception Action" but in the top part of the configuration the "* Exception Action” there is no selection option.
I am assuming if you wish to trigger and event you would identify the event in the “* Exception Action” field and under the rule you would select "Take Exception Action". How do you configure the “* Exception Action” to determine which Action to take?
Thanks,
Allen

Colour Profile Question - Press PDF

Hi
I've got a quick question regarding colour profiles.
I've designed an A5 flyer for a client and I have my CS3 suite colour settings set to Adobe 1998 for RGB and Euro Coated for CMYK. The client has decided that this flyer is now to be printed on uncoated paper. So, should I be converting or assigning the working/document CMYK profile to Euro uncoated?
Also on output for press I have a PDF export setting which I use for creating press pdf's which is set to 'No Colour Conversion' and 'Don't include profiles', so in fact does the above matter at all?
I'm totally confused, any help appreciated!
Thanks

I think you are guessing correctly, they may have some control which will work ok for them at a certain level.
You could convert in ID, which will alter the appearance and that will change the output file. Or you could manually adjust the colour/saturation to taste and let the printers go through their usual process and end up with better job.
They probably 'run to density' on press, so you are taking some of their control. Most printers at least calibrate their equipment to a standard, such as Euroscale and then suggest that clients use that when preparing files. That is what I guess when a printer does not have a custom profile.
What they are saying to you is that they are calibrated and their approximate appearance is based on Euro Coated on coated stock at a particular ink density measured at the press.
Uncoated stock looks desaturated, so if you increase your saturation and reduce your Total Ink, you can control the look at their desired press density.
This is not correct colour management, but reflects real world conditions in many commercial 'jobbing' printers in my experience.

How can i in cs6 proof an lab photographic profile question ? and where is minibridge?

Hi
i'm playing with cs6
i have a question about printing in a photographic lab
i have many profiles for different papers ,installed in my os folder (windows7 and xp my laptop)
to proof how will look my photos is right
View -> Proof set up -> custom -> device to silumate -> select the Lab profile
now view -> proof colors
is right?
my i ask a question about minibridge ?
i installed cs6
i have cs5 and cs6 on my w7 , but under file minibridge is gray -> what's wrong ?
to be honest i have never loved minibridge , but can't understand why is not available
thanks

select the Lab profile
What an unfortunate choice of words (or capitalization).
Lab is a color space, but I think you mean »the RGB- (or possibly even CMYK-) profile required/recommended by the photographic lab«.
In that case it seems recommendable to actually convert (duplicates of) the images to the profile and handing those over to the lab because settings like Render Intent, Black Point Compensation etc. can make a difference in appearance.
And how reliable the preview on your screen is still depends on how diligently you profile your monitor, how constant your viewing conditions are, how well the lab maintains their output equipment etc.

DNG Profile Editor "base profile" question.

I'm profiling a Canon 5D3 with both the Adobe DNG Profile Editor and the Xrite ColorChecker software. It's been about 3 years since I last profiled a camera, so I'm re-doing the learning curve. My question now is how and why the DNG Profile editor depends on a "base profile?" Specifically, why does the DNG PE Chart Wizard generate different results depending on what base profile is used.
I see in the documentation that "all color adjustments made in the DNG Profile Editor are defined relative to a base profile." I understand that logic when making a custom profile via manual tweaks. You have to have a starting point. But I don't understand that logic when using the Chart Wizard. I expected the Chart Wizard to arrive at the same pre-defined target point regardless of the starting point. It does not seem to do that.
I discovered the difference by using an apparently bad workflow. I shot my colorchecker chart, converted the CR2 to DNG and brought it into Photoshop via ACR to inspect. That stored "Adobe Standard" as the base profile in the DNG.
Then I fed this DNG to the DNG PE Chart Wizard and generated a profile. I opened the image in ACR and applied "My Profile", which became the base profile in the DNG file. I thought I did something wrong, so I ran the same DNG through the Chart Wizard again and generated "My Second Profile." That version looked very strange, so I did it again and made "My Third Profile."
Now I have three profiles. My First Profile was made from Adobe Standard base. My Second Profile was made from My First Profile base. My Third Profile was made from My Second Profile base. Each iteration becomes more strange (bad), so this is clearly not the proper workflow. But what is? What base profile should be selected for Chart Wizard and why does it matter?
Being curious, I did the same exercise using the Xrite ColorChecker software. That software generates the same result, regardless of what base profile is stored in the DNG files. I'm not sure I like the results, but at least they are consistent.

DNG Profile Editor lets you define color edits (in the first tab) using a set of color control points. These control points in turn define a color lookup table used to perform the color correction when processing a (raw) image.
When you use a Base Profile, the resulting color table in the final profile is a combination of the base profile's color table, plus the color table defined by any edits that you've added in the first tab (using the Chart Wizard counts as adding edits to that first tab).
The reason you can get different and less smooth results if you apply the Chart Wizard iteratively is because you are applying lookup table after lookup table. The current color table-building method used by DNG PE has some limitations regarding smoothness of color profiles if two color control points are placed too closely (this can happen with the Chart Wizard, or if you specify two points manually that are close to each other). These problems can become more noticeable if you apply the DNG PE iteratively.

Printer profile question

Some of my profiles are grayed out in the "Print Settings" dialogue box, even though they are in the Profiles folder. Others do not appear at all. I'm running OS 10.4.11 and using an Epson 2200.
Any ideas why this might be?

Ramon,
I believe you, though I wonder why Epson can't be bothered to fix this now that OS X has been in very widespread use for a number of years.
I finally got it working after several tries and problems with the cartridge, etc. Yes, I did need to delete and reinstall the instances of the 2200. It's still a little glitchy - gets hung up and asks me to do it again, but that's tolerable I guess. My problems were being compounded by the cartridge not charging properly when swapped. Not sure how to do this but cleaning solved it.
Also needed to turn black point compensation off to avoid blob-looking blacks on the print.
i was using ColorSync utility mostly to try to figure out what was going on, not in printing. It's a bit mysterious and proved unhelpful.
One final question. The Epson Print Utility sometimes seems to wander off into outer space and require a restart. Do you have that problem?
Thanks for your help.

When to upload self generated profiles + Question re IR

All,
First Question:
I have just created my first profile for D300/Tamron 18-200 lens
It was done at f11 set to 18, 60 and 200.
Each set was 8 or 9 images
The target was A3 (13 x 19 54) printed on illford matt paper and then mounted on cardboard.
Light was natural at ca 19:00 in the evening (slightly overcast)
Images were shot at ca 1/20 on tripod, fired remotely
It was a first attempt.
a) Is this too crude to upload ?
b) Should I add more Fsettings then upload?
c) Should I re shoot under better light?
Second Question:
I have an IR D70 with a Nikon 18-55 lens.
Should I:
a) try to profile on the IR body (its having trouble with finding the grid),
b) Up the exposure (ie over) to see the grid
c) Profile on the D300 ?
Many many thanks in advance
Simon

Hi Simon,
Thanks for giving ALPC a try. There is no hard and fast rules on what you should or should not submit the profiles to the Adobe server. If you are happy with the results that you get, submit it. It is likely others will like it as well. We have some rating system on the server side and the user can always preview the matching profiles on their images before deciding to download them.
For best result, you should always profile the lens with the camera that you used most. In the case of your IR D70, because it has extra IR filter on it, the spectral color characteristics would be expected differently from that of the D300. If you use IR D70 in combination with your Nikon 18-55 lens, then profile them in combination together. If you have a choice between APS-C and fullframe types of cameras with similar sensor characteristics, create your profiles based on the fullframe camera because the resulting profiles would most likely work on APS-C type of cameras as well.
Hope this is helpful,
-Simon

Color Settings (Profile) Question

-I am using CS4 on a PC.
-A friend of mine does high end printing.
-A couple of months ago he had me set my color settings to ProPhotoRGB. In the haste they were not set back. To sRGB IEC61966-2.1 (sRGB for later reference). Innocently I thought working in ProPhoto (yes I had the choice when opening a file which profile to use) would somehow enhance the photo. Now I know better, but…..
-I manipulated many photos using the ProPhoto setting, but in some cheap, quick printing to a universal machine most consumers would have processing done with, they looked horrible, to say the least.
-We determined the problem to be the setting and I have switched it back to sRGB.
Question:
Can I open the old processed photos and change the Color setting (EDIT-> Assign Profile) and be good to go, or are the ProPhoto colors embedded in the photos and I need to start from scratch with my RAW files and convert to new jpg files and move forward?
I tried opening one of the bad jpg and converting the color setting/profile and even opened a psd I had created of a collage and saved it as a jpg but in Bridge the color still looks bad. (PSD color is fine).
If I have to start over, so be it. It’s only months, not years and I will have learned something. I would however, like to speed up the process an easier way, if possible.
Thanks for any response.

Yes you should be able to just change as you stated. ProPhotoRGB is a wider gaumet color range so some color shifting may be evident. This gets into a very complex subject, or which I am not an expert.

Odd color shift and OS color profile question

I've run into something that leads me to believe that the OS X color profile management has caused me a problem. I'd like to figure out how to tell the OS to not manage color profiles in order to avoid future problems. So far this is only an issue when dealing with CMYK images.
A little background...
I received a JPEG image from a photographer. Converted it to CMYK and made minor edits in Photoshop, not touching the color profiles or trying to color correct. I saved a JPEG of the edited image, and imported it into Freehand 10. When imported, the entire image shifted slightly pink. When viewed in Preview or Photoshop it looked fine. It was only when I imported it that it shifted.
A friend suggested this might have something to with color profiles, so I fiddled around with both PS and FH to make sure they were using the same ones. Even when they were the image shifted pink. This was on my desktop machine, recently upgraded to Tiger.
I noticed my PowerBook was still running Panther. I took the same image, same data file, same programs and when I imported the image again, it was fine. Looked just like it did in PhotoShop and Preview. I immediately saved out a PDF for posterity and press use.
Given the above, the only real variable is the version of the OS. This leads me to believe that there's something about how Tiger handles color profiles on the OS level that's causing this shift. What I don't know is how to remove the OS' meddling to remove it from the workflow.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance...
G4 Dual 867 Mac OS X (10.4.3) 768MB RAM, 120GBHD

audi454 wrote:
1. AdobeRGB
2. Im not sure what you mean, preferences in PSE?
3. My client has a print release, I use WHCC to print my pictures and I believe they require sRGB as well.
4. Yes I always shoot in RAW.
Thanks for taking the time to help, I looked at my Lightroom color settings since that's how I import my pics and it was set on Adobe Pro I believe... I changed it to sRGB.
Sent from my iPhone
Thanks for the info : I'll start with the 4th question because it's the less known factor with Elements
If you shoot raw, the settings of your camera (Adobe RGB) will be ignored. This setting works only with the out of camera jpegs. A 'raw' file has no color profile, so PSE needs to know which profile you want for the conversion. You won't find any menu or dialog entries in ACR for that purpose. So, to convert the file when you 'Open' in the editor, PSE looks at the settings in your editor (my question #2, Menu Edit/Color settings...
If you have chosen option 1, 'Always optimize for computer screens', PSE will convert the raw file to sRGB profile.
If you have chosen 'Always optimize for printing', PSE will convert to aRGB...
If you want to take advantage of the slightly wider color space of Adobe RGB because your home printer can use it, select the second option, but if you have to send the picture in sRGB, do not forget to convert before sending. Menu /image/convert color profile.
If you don't want to bother, use sRGB with the option 1. You won't risk forgetting to convert the client version.
Never use 'No color management' in the menu /edit/color settings
If you first convert to sRGB with option 1, you won't get any advantage to convert to aRGB afterwards

Display iMac Late 2009 color profile questions:

My friend dropped his mid 2010 iMac 21.5 inch desktop computer over for me update to Yosemite because I have a very fast connection.
I have a late 2009 iMac 21.5 inch.
When side by side, I noticed that my display is quite dim compared to his. Also, the "white" seems dull and grey/yellow. ( I shot this photo with my iPod Touch of the displays side by side.)
Both displays are set at the highest brightness.
I took note of the color profiles of each.
My question is this: Can I make my display look somewhat brighter? Or is it different because of something else? His iMac is so much brighter. I'd like to brighten things up on mine if possible.
Below, please click the image- on the left is the 2010 iMac, on the right, the 2009.
the 2010 iMac says 21.5 inch (1920x1080) ATI Radeon HD 4670
the 2009 iMac says 21.5 inch (1920x1080) NVIDIA GeForce 9400
Something tells me that I can't calibrate it to look like that, but, I figured I'd toss the question out there. I had no idea how yellow/grey my display looked until today.

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If you plan to do other things with your Thunderbolt connector and don't want it wasted on a monitor, you can also choose an HDMI --> DVI adapter, which for your purposes will be functionally equivalent.
You can even use both at the same time.
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.profile question

Probably some kind of silly question:
I'm logged into X as lets say A user. Then I'm using su to use terminal as oracle user. I have oracle varialbes (ORACLE_HOME, etc..) set in my ./profile as
ORACLE_HOME=/opt/oracle/product/10.2.0/client_1
export ORACLE_HOME
The problem is I didn't have variables set in session - echo $ORACLE_HOME gives me nothing.
I've also tried to directly run .profile:
chmod +x ~/.profile
~/.profile
Variables are still not set.
I'm using openSUSE 11, $SHELL=/bin/bash
Could comebody explain me what am I doing wrong?

Hello Łukasz,
How are you using su?
If you want the new session to have the environment of the oracle user, and source that user's .profile, you need to use 'su - oracle' or 'su -l oracle'. These options "simulate a full login," according to the su man page. Using su without one of these options invokes a non-login shell, so files like .profile and .bash_profile are not read. You have two choices to get what you want:
1) Use su - oracle or su -l oracle
2) Put the oracle enviroment definitions in one of oracle's non-login setup files, such as .bashrc , and use 'su oracle'
Regards,
John P.
http://only4left.jpiwowar.com

Lens profile question

I've done a lot of field work with a Canon G9, and it would be extremely helpful to have a lens profile, but I operate the camera remotely, and in this mode, it only shoots jpegs. I have 3 questions:
1) Is there a G9 lens profile for jpeg?
2) Is it possible to convert my jpegs to RAW?
3) Would it be possible to use an existing G9 lens profile (RAW) on images converted from jpeg, or would that be futile?

You can do number 3 (convert a raw profile to JPEG) with usually okay results, and I've posted how to do that on numerous occasions.
Change all the lines that look like:
<stCamera:CameraRawProfile>True</stCamera:CameraRawProfile>
to False (preferably in a new file).

DNG-PE Dual-Illuminant Profile question

Just want to clarify the correct procedure in building a Dual-Illuminant camera profile.
So I have shot a colorchecker under 6500k and 2850k (hopelessly gloomy here in Hong Kong now, best I could get is around 5500k)... anyway, i open both shots in PE, and then run the chart wizard.
Questions:
1) Does it matter which base profile I choose when I run the Chart wizard?
2) Once I run the chart wizard once, the Base Profile changes to 'Color Checker'. If I were to proceed to run the other colorchecker, do I need to change the base profile back to the original base profile (e.g. Adobe Std)
Thanks! ws

Eric Chan wrote:
"2. For your case, where you're shooting in a very specific lighting condition (your studio flash in your studio environment) you are better off creating a single profile dedicated to that condition, i.e., follow Tutorial 5 in the PE documentation, where you should select 'Both Color Tables' from the popup in the Chart tab. "
So with a specific and more or less constant lighting, like in studio environment, I shoot one chart in the studio environment and I make only one single profile with the "both color tables".
I'm sorry if I make you feel like you're repeating what you just said, but as you can see I'm having quite a hard time understanding.
But in this case, when does it worth to do 2 different profiles ? When the light is under 3000° K or upper 6000 ° K ?

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