LR Web Module color management problem

I stumbled on to this discussion thread:
http://forums.adobe.com/message/3572174#3572174
initiated by “JimmysPhoto” because I have observed the same LR Web Module problem with images too saturated too much contrast and clipped highlights & shadows. Please note that this is not a settle difference, it’s a major change in the look of the image. I have a calibrated monitor using Spyder3 Elite. All other LR modules display the images exactly as I see in Development Module.
I did a test by exporting an image from the Dev Module to a file using the LR “Export “ function (from RAW to JPEG using sRBG color space) to a Windows file. When I display the image with the Windows Live Photo Gallery Viewer the image looks exactly the same as in the LR Dev module. However, opening this same image with IE-9 I get the same oversaturated look I see in the Web Module.
Because I use the LR Web Module to push photo galleries to my website host server I end up with images that do not look the way I processed them in LR – which is a serious issue for me. Was there any resolution to “JimmysPhoto” problems that I could benefit from?
I use Win7 64bit, LR 3.X and a high quality Dell U2410 display.

It's very strange that both IE9 and Chrome browsers go to the trouble of doing colour management, but both do it wrong - in different ways!
To colour-manage an image for display, you have to:
Figure out the profile of the image (often embedded in the image, or if none probably assume sRGB unless you know the image colour space by some other means)
Figure out the profile of the monitor (Windows will tell you that, if the monitor has a profile, otherwise you can't colour manage)
Using the two profiles, convert the image from the image colour space , via a Profile Connection Space (typically CIELAB (L*a*b*) or CIEXYZ), into the monitor's colour space.
The hard work is 3; finding out the profiles is easy.
IE9 does 1 and 3 but not 2.  It goes to all the trouble of colour space conversion (step 3), but doesn't bother to look up the monitor profile.  It assumes sRGB, which will be approximately right for most monitors, but never exactly right, and hopelessly wrong for wide gamut monitors.
Chrome does 2 and 3 but not 1.  It goes to all the trouble of color space conversion, but doesn't bother to look up the image profile, assuming all images to be sRGB!
Why do the hard bit, but make a pig's ear of the easy bit?

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    I turned off the dell application "True Color" which I thought may have been making automatic adjustments to the color scheme and since turning it off the issue hasn't happened again.  However now I'm concerned that by inactivating that software, that I may not be maximizing the potential of the high quality HD display.  And now--though maybe it's in my head--the colors seem to be a little flatter since turning off True Color.
    Does anyone have any suggestions for getting the most out of the display? Has anyone had similar issues with True Color?  Any advice would be appreciated.
    Thanks for your help.

    I ended up fully uninstalling it from programs and features...I haven't had the problem since.  I've been happy with the display since making this change.

  • Muse Color Management Problem

    Is there a way to control how Muse handles color?
    When using websafe background colors in Muse, the color renders drastically diffrent when exported and displayed in Safari and Chrome.
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    That advice doesn't help with this issue. I don't need to use a color checker to verify that the colors are different. It's very obvious. I'm having the same issue this guy was having that was never addressed:
    http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1250202
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    When you compare the 3 pages in a browser to the 3 page displays in Muse you'll notice that the only page that matches the Muse color is page 2 with the tiled bg image set to the 0066cc filled square Jpeg that has the sRGB profile embedded.
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