[LR2 - SOLUTION] Using Lightroom in englsih with a non-english keyboard layout

Hi, Many of us, non native english speaking LR users, are using LT in english on a system having a non-US keyboard layout. The conseqeunce of this is that we can't reach a lot of keyboard shortcuts because LR doesn't offer any interface for configuring them. However, there's a workaround. I'll explain here what I did for the french language but you can apply this to your own language. For the non english languages, the keyboard shortcuts are defined in C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 2\Resources\<language>\TranslatedStrings.txt. If you are using LR in english, this file is not used and there's no similar file in C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 2\Resources\en. But you can create one containing only the shortcuts that you need. I have created a new TranslatedStrings.txt file containing only the keyboard shortcuts defined for the french version. I did this by copying only the lines containing the following sequences: ....Key=... ....KeyShifted=... ...AgPanel/LeftPanelShortcut... ...AgPanel/RightPanelShortcut... ...MenuShortcut/DecreaseRating= ...MenuShortcut/IncreaseRating= (french users can find this file here: http://www.mainsoft.fr/Files/LR/TranslatedStrings.txt . Copy this file to "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 2\Resources\en" and relaunch Lightroom. Now you have the same keyboard shortcuts as when using LR in french. Interestingly enough, if you hit ctrl + < , the LR keyboard shortcut panel is displayed and it shows your new shortcuts. Again, you can do the same for your own language by copying the specified strings from the relevant folder. Hope this helps. -- Patrick Philippot MainSoft Consulting Services www.mainsoft.fr

Yes… I would at a minimum contact Apple sales or AppleCare regarding this. You have two options though. You can ask for a new one, given they can't simply swap out a keybaord you need to exchange the whole thing.
Otherwise, you can use it as a bargaining chip and say ask for a free external International English keyboard and a discount on your next Apple Store purchase… for instance.
Regardless, be polite yet firm with them as you did not get what you ordered.

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