LR3 using LR2 history

To try out LR3, I exported a half dozen M9 DNG files as originals into a folder from Lr2. These were not exported as DNG but as originals . Then I imported the test files into LR3 and to Capture One. My objective was to see how the raw conversion improved and how it compared to the two raw convertors I currently use. In C1 the files opened as originals ..this was easy to see as one file was cropped in LR2. In LR3 the files came in and the full history was applied from LR2. I was not using any .xmp files.
I could of course simply hit reset and remove the history but what about the raw conversion? I went back and found the original DNG and made a test copy. After importing it I could easily see that the raw conversion was improved over the other method implying that my first attempt had already been converted in LR2.
This would appear to have both good and bad considerations. I could for example load an entire years worth of images into LR3 ....my folder structure would keep them exactly as they are in LR2..in effect building the library..but carrying the history(development ) from Lr2 to Lr3. But I would lose out on the improved raw conversions possible with Lr3.

Larry,
lalittle wrote:
"The reason for this behaviour is that LR takes an existing XMP file into condideration when importing a RAW file. And in the XMP sidecar, all the development settings applied to the image (not the history) are stored."
Do I understand correctly that this is only an issue when importing existing edited photos in Lr3 rather than openning your Lr2.5 library with Lr3? In other words, would this NOT be an issue if simply openning an existing Lr2.5 catalog with Lr3 (or when upgrading at some point later)? If I take my Lr2.5 catalog and open it with Lr3, I'll still get EVERYTHING, including the history, correct?
Thanks,
Larry
This is correct. If you will open an LR 2.5 catalog with LR 3, you'll get all the history, which is stored in the catalog, rather than in the XMP data.
This also applies when you've never written metadata to disk.
Beat Gossweiler
Switzerland
Edit:
Of course I'm not Adobe, and by saying the above, I just assume normal upgrade procedures. So don't quote me if Adobe would - for whatever reason - not implement a full catalog migration
Message was edited by: b_gossweiler

Similar Messages

How to use File History from same account on 2 PCs to same NAS

I recently upgraded from Win7 to Win8.1 and am unsuccessful in using File History as I'd like. Perhaps it's a configuration issue, so I'll explain my goal, what I've done, and the problem:
I have a PC and laptop, both in the same HomeGroup and I use the Microsoft Account on both. Heretofore I've used a 'backup program' (SyncBack Pro), to synch the Documents folder between the PC and laptop, and then backup the PC's Documents folder to
a folder on a NAS (Network Attached Storage). That worked file.
Now, attempting to use File History, I setup up a NAS:\File History folder on the NAS and turned File History on both on the PC and laptop, pointing to the same NAS:\File History folder on the NAS. (Actually, I didn't enable it on the laptop until
File History on the PC had completed its initial run.) Within 1 or 2 days, the NAS was out of space but shouldn't have been. When I use Windows Explorer to list contents of subfolders in Documents in the File History folder on the NAS, it shows
the same files and sizes as it shows on the folders on the PC. But when I use Windows Explorer to get the Properties of those folders, it shows exactly 2 or 3 (differs by folder) times as many files, and 2 or 3 times the total space taken on the
PC. There are many folders in the $OF folder. I assumed (perhaps wrongly) that $OF would hold old files (e.g., deleted or superseded) but there probably aren't more than 4-5 files that changed over this time period. All this is making
me think that perhaps when File History runs on, say the laptop, it actually replaces all files of the same names saved by File History running on the PC and vice versa. Perhaps that's wrong, but it's the only way I can explain the explosion of the number
of files and space consumed by even multiples (2 or 3, at which point the NAS ran out of space).
So, given my goal -- making sure there is a shared backup of all Documents files on the NAS -- is there a way I can set up File History on both the PC and laptop so the same file is represented once in the NAS:\File History ?????
Finally, in case it's relevant, when I set up File History on the PC it asked me if I wanted to invite others in the HomeGroup to do so, but nothing resembling an 'invitation' ever appeared on the laptop.
Many thanks to anyone who can address this.

Hello RASSRQ,
Do you mean that the file history in NAS need 2 or 3 times space as the file on PC?
Please explain a bit about the sentence ‘When I use Windows Explorer to list contents of subfolders in Documents in the File History folder on the NAS, it shows the same files and sizes as it shows on the folders on the PC. But when I use Windows Explorer
to get the Properties of those folders, it shows exactly 2 or 3 (differs by folder) times as many files, and 2 or 3 times the total space taken on the PC. There are many folders in the $OF folder. ’
I can’t understand: What is $OF folder? Could you please share us a screenshot about $OF folder if you willing to?
What folders in $OF folder?
Based on my test, I follow the steps by referring to the following article and can’t find the similar issue.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-HK/windows-8/set-drive-file-history
Best regards,
Fangzhou CHEN
Fangzhou CHEN
TechNet Community Support

A question about using the history tool after using the extraction tool in photoshop cs3..

For example:
http://www.layersmagazine.com/photoshop-...
When I use the history tool, it erases the image instead. Whats up with that?

G'day Chris
I can't tell from the link exactly which tutorial you mean!
If the original layer is a white background and the snapshot is set to this then the history tool will paint back white even if you then paste or drag an image onto the layer above this.
You would have to take a seperate snapshot of your image layer and set this layer as the snapshot you want the history tool to use before you start working on it.
One neat thing you can do is if you paint back some detail with the history brush you can immediately go to Edit > Fade and fine tune how much of the effect you want to apply.
Hope this helps.
regards
John

Use report history reporting services btn option

hello,
i'm trying to figure out what the use report history option on the general view of the reporting services button option provides.
the definition in the help file is "To enable use of the report's history, select this option". i have no idea what this means, so i'm hoping that someone can tell me what this option provides.
i don't have all of the requirements to test using the reporting services button, so i can't test it's functionality.
any help would be greatly appreciated
thank you
tracy

Hi KittyCat101,
As per my understanding, you used case when statement in the query, you do not need to display permitsubtype in the report, but when you tried to delete permitsubtype from the query, it could not run correctly. In order to improve the efficiency of troubleshooting,
I need to ask several questions:
“I tried deleting the permitsubtype query and it would not run correctly.” As we can see, it has no effect to delete permitsubtype from the query you provided, could you please provide complete sql query for the report?
Could you please provide detailed information about the report? I would be appreciated it if you could provide sample data and screenshot of the report.
Please provide some more detailed information of your requirements.
This may be a lot of information to ask for at one time. However, by collecting this information now, it will help us move more quickly toward a solution.
Thanks,
Wendy Fu

Can we see the actual Tables using Record History through forms

By using record history in Oracle Financials it shows only the associated view can we see the actual table using that record histoy
Thanks a lot

Thanks Kiran
Actually i am new to Oracle Financials Technical side i have experience in Oracle field and want to work technically on apps side so i need to have check which form is on which base table and wats the relations etc thats why i am serching from front end the actual tables info
Anyhow Thanks

Privacy options will not allow me to choose "use custom history" settings" - it always reverts back to "remember history"

A website states "There is a problem with your bookmark/favorite or cookie settings" - then provides steps in Firefox to correct the problem, i.e. set history to accept cookies and accept third-party cookies. I select "use custom history", select the proper cookie settings, click OK, and close the window. However, when I re-open the options window it's always reset to "remember history" and I can't access the website I want to use.

Choosing the "Use custom settings for history" setting doesn't make any changes to history and cookie settings.<br />
Firefox shows the "Use custom settings for history" setting as an indication that at least one of the history and cookie settings is not the default to make you aware that changes were made.<br />
If all History settings are default then the custom settings are hidden and you see "Firefox will: (Never) Remember History".<br />
Never Remember History" means that Private Browsing is active and "Always use private browsing mode" gets a check mark.

Annoying 'Could not use the history eraser because the current canvas size does not match that of the history state' message

Does anyone know if it is possible to get rid of the message 'Could not use the history eraser because the current canvas size does not match that of the history state'?. It comes up if I hit the alt/option key while I have the eraser selected. Something I do by accident all the time.

The way you've described it, one gets the distinct impression you do not have a clue as to what the history brush does and how to use it.
You need to read up on it. Read the Help files and google for tutorials.
First you need to create an image (with actual pixels in it), edit it as desired, then make a snapshot of the edited image, then target the snapshot with the history brush tool, then go back in the History panel to the step before your edits and selectively paint your edits in with the History Brush.

What is the use of History Brush Tool?

What is the use of History Brush Tool?

"The History Brush takes the power of the History panel and lets you focus it on
specific parts of an image. So instead of sending the entire image back in time, you
can use this brush to paint edits away selectively, revealing the previous state of
your choosing. For example, you could darken a portrait with the Burn tool
and then use the History Brush to undo some of the darkening if you went too
far."
Which is precisely what I said, in only 9 words
(sorry, couldn't resist)

How do I check internet usage history? When i use the "History" tab on the tool bar all I see is today's activity & the calendar does not change when I click on it. Thanks

How do I check internet usage history? When i use the "History" tab on the tool bar all I see is today's activity & the calendar does not change when I click on it. Thanks

zedzed,
Here's another thought.
Navigate to HD > Users > Library > Safari: Make a duplicate of History.plist.
To duplicate the file, click once to highlight it. Press the Command + D keys.
Drag the History,plist copy file to the Desktop.
Highlight it. Press the Command + I keys, to get info.
Change Open With to TextEdit.
When you open the file in TextEdit, it will be difficult to read, but you will be able to pick out some sites.
ali b

LR3 Behaving badly, using LR2

So I went to open my LR3 in my typical catalog ( I segregate some for testing, hence multiple cats ), program starts then fails? Tried holding down the option/alt key to force into another catalog, nada.
On a Mac ( 10.6.8 ) dragged app to trash emptied trash restarted machine ( MacBook Pro ).
Reinstalled 3.4.1, same behavior?
Re-importing my images into LR2 ( 2.7 version ). It runs.
Did not find this issue in a basic search of forums.
I was expecting to have to re-enter my serial number so I think I did not completely "un-install" by dragging app to trash. Hidden corrupt preferences?
Suggestions sought.
Terence Dodge

Larry,
lalittle wrote:
"The reason for this behaviour is that LR takes an existing XMP file into condideration when importing a RAW file. And in the XMP sidecar, all the development settings applied to the image (not the history) are stored."
Do I understand correctly that this is only an issue when importing existing edited photos in Lr3 rather than openning your Lr2.5 library with Lr3? In other words, would this NOT be an issue if simply openning an existing Lr2.5 catalog with Lr3 (or when upgrading at some point later)? If I take my Lr2.5 catalog and open it with Lr3, I'll still get EVERYTHING, including the history, correct?
Thanks,
Larry
This is correct. If you will open an LR 2.5 catalog with LR 3, you'll get all the history, which is stored in the catalog, rather than in the XMP data.
This also applies when you've never written metadata to disk.
Beat Gossweiler
Switzerland
Edit:
Of course I'm not Adobe, and by saying the above, I just assume normal upgrade procedures. So don't quote me if Adobe would - for whatever reason - not implement a full catalog migration
Message was edited by: b_gossweiler

Catalog hell since upgrading to LR3 from LR2. Please help.

Ever since I upgraded from LR2 to LR3 I've been in a hellish runaround with my catalog. Whenever I start up LR3 a dialog box pops up asking me to "Please upgrade the catalog file "Lightroom_Catalog (original)" for use with Lightroom 3." It then makes a new catalog file. The problem is that I'm asked this question every time I open LR3 and I haven't had time, until now, to research the problem and I now have 3 different catalogs. AND when I allow it to upgrade the file I'm now getting a pop up saying "LR couldn't update the format of its catalog file because the file appears to be damaged." As far as I'm concerned LR3 is what damaged it in the first place. What can I do? I have jobs coming up and I just need LR to work and I need access to my catalog of photos. PLEASE help!
Forever in your debt if you can help.
Anita

How do you start Lightroom? Do you start via a Lightroom Icon or by double clicking on a catalog file within Windows Explorer or some other shortcut?
Keep in mind that when Lightroom 3 upgrades your catalog, the catalog is saved under a different name, usually the original name with a "-2" appended at the end of the name. Your original Lightroom 2 catalog remains untouched, so if you keep opening that version it will ask you if you want to upgrade it again or if you want to open the Lightroom 3 version.
Hope this shelds some light on your issue, otherwise please let us know so we can continue troubleshooting.

Same images in LR3 and LR2.7?

EDIT: I just reset Camera Calibration->process back to 2003 from 2010(Current) and I get the speed.
- Terje
Hi,
I am one of those that has been struck by the LR3 effect with a slow handling .
I have to do some image prosessing and will use LR 2.7 to get the speed back. I have processed some images in LR3 already. Can there be anything in these images "marked" by LR3 that can give me some kind of conflict when opening them in LR2.7?
I will try of course but wonder if someone has done it and experienced something.
- Terje

Hello, deltorno.
Thank you for visiting Apple Support Communities.
I understand that photos are not updating using Photo Stream. Here is a troubleshooting article that may help resolve this issue.
Get help using My Photo Stream
http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203511
Cheers,
Jason H.

Upgrade to LR3 from LR2

I mainly use LR as an image catalog, and quick edits like exposure adjustments (batch). For the fine tune editing and post processing, I still resort to Photoshop. Do you guys think it's a cost effective upgrade from LR2 to LR3? Thanks.
FYI, check out my photography portfolio on Flickr

Yes, absolutely: upgrade.
Lr3 is better, period (why not use it instead of Lr2?)
The upgrade price to me is so reasonable that its a no-brainer.
I mean unless you just cant afford it, in which case I'd say hold off until you can afford it, then buy it...
But, try it first to make sure it runs OK on your system.
PS - I only use a fraction of the features in Lr3, but many of the ones I use are better than they were in Lr2 - I assume the same would hold true for you.
PPS - I mean, there are no real ground-breaking improvements in the native cataloging features, so if thats really all you care about, then I suppose it may not be worth it. Still, I encourage upgrading just the same - Adobe can and will use the money to make Lightroom better in the future...
Rob

Using LR2 w/ Photoshop CS2 and Camera Raw 3.7

I am using Photoshop CS2 and Camera Raw 3.7 on a Mac G4, OS X 10.4.11.
I am about to install my upgrade to Lightroom 2. Is this a bad idea?
I have read about some compatibility issues re Camera Raw, and I have also read about how to solve the issue of exporting the keywords.
Will this keyword issue fix work on my system?
What are the real-world practical implications of still having Camera Raw 3.7? I usually adjust images in Lightroom, then any further adjustment is done in Photoshop (not CR). So is the only downside going to be that if I revisit the image in Camera Raw, the adjustments will not show up? Or will it also not show up in Bridge?? And if it is only in CR, is it that the image does not have the adjustments; or does it show the adjusted image, but has just all the sliders zeroed out?
I am hot to install LR2, but I want to make sure that I am not going to open a can of worms. And yes, I could buy PS CS4 (which would get me CR 4.5), and I would like to, but I don't have a G5. And I cannot afford to buy a new desktop computer right now.
Any input would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Dean Abramson

>so is the LR version of RAW as good as the one in CS3?
It's far better as it has local adjustments and such. Lightroom is more equivalent to the ACR in CS4. To make changes you make to images in ACR outside Lightroom show up in Lightroom, you need to sync the metadata. ACR does not write the changes to RAW images to the Lightroom database, but it writes it into xmp sidecars either right next to the RAW file or embedded into it. So Lightroom has no idea you did anything until you specifically ask it to check for updated metadata.
Note that trying to work with both bridge/ACR and Lightroom on the same set of data will inevitably make you lose data or edits at some point as you're dealing with a synchronization issue, so be careful.

LR3 using too much memory??? Running very slow!

I'm running LR3 (3.2) on my desktop , which is fairly powerful (Intel Q6600 Quad core @ 2.4 GHz, 4Gb ram, Win 7 64-bit, Radeon 4850 1Gb, dual monitors) with all main drivers & patches up to date.
Using the 'Library' module LR3 runs fine with ram usage low at around 250-500Mb & CPU at 1-5%.
Trouble starts when I start using the 'Develop' module. It virtually brings the computer down on it's knees - with ram usage consistently increasing to about 2-2.5 Gb of ram, which brings total ram being used up to approx 85% when taking into consideration the other programs & services running in the background. CPU usage continues to run low though - between 1-5% when inactive in 'Develop' increasing to 25-35% when doing stuff.
I've tried the 32 bit version in case there was a memory leak, but if there is, it happens on this version too as ram usage is still around 1.5-2Gb mark.
I've noticed this mainly when working on some of the larger photos - these are generally RAW files (CR2) taken on a Canon 7D @ 18mp - approx 20-25mb in size. JPEG's tend to be much quicker and less resource hungry - trouble is I'm shooting in RAW, so not much help to me!!
Anyone else suffering or suffered from this and have any tips on how to improve performance? I regularly optimise my catalog (approx 13,500 images - 72 Gb) which doesn't really make any noticeable difference.
Would it help if I created individual catalogs for each year of photos, thereby reducing the number of photos as well as overall size of catalog?
I'm more than a little stumped!

Mark Byron wrote:
I was having similar issues on my macbook pro using LR3. LR3 was using 1.5gb of my 2gb of ram and my overall workflow slowed to a crawl. Thanks to the forums here and elsewhere I've been able to speed up my workflow considerably without having to buy more ram.
1. I downloaded the LR3.2RC and have been using it instead of LR3.0. This resolved the issues I was having with the adjustment brush. (Still running slow at this point.)
2. Under catalog settings/file handling I changed "preview quality" from medium to high. (this helps when resizing previews)
3. Under preferences/file handling I moved the raw cache from my local hard drive to a folder on my external firewire 800 drive where I keep my image files. I also increased it to 50gb. (Once I moved the raw cache everything changed. LR3.2 went from using 1.5gb of ram to just 700-800mb of ram. Also LR became much more responsive overall. No more hangs or odd behaviors.)
Since moving the raw cache everything sped right up.
Mark,
I'm unclear as to why preview quality would impact the resizing aspect? I would think that selecting the preview size most closely associated to the resolution of the monitor would have a much greater effect..
All,
I added a post to the new LR3.3 thread set up by Tom Hogarty regarding LR 3.3RC memory consumption. I'm on a Macbook Pro (2.1) with 4GB RAM. With both LR 2.7 and LR 3.3 processing the same file (simple load, edit, and export to JPEG) LR 3.3RC is taking an additional 1GB of combined Real and Virtual Memory to complete the task. After the processing is done, LR 3.3 is not releasing anything back in memory. If you have a Mac, load up the activity monitor and you can follow how much LR 3.3 is grabbing.
Jay S.

LR3 using LR2 history

Similar Messages

Maybe you are looking for