LR4 Book-module: formatting type

It would be great if we would have the ability to select (at least some) OpenType features under "Type".
For example being able to choose between lining figures and oldstyle figures or lowercase and smallcaps would greatly enhance the look of the text.
You are, after all, creating a book.

Text is text and should always be set proper, no matter what sort of book you are dealing with.
The beauty of OpenType fonts & font technology is that it makes it so incredible easy to set text… proper.
It's no hassle, it's not rocket science, just a click of the mouse.

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Printing PDF from LR4 Book Module

I am having a difficult time getting accurate color when printing a PDF Book file genetrated by the Book Module in LR4.
I've tried exporting the PDF with a Pro Photo profile, but when I open the file and try and print in Adobe Reader I can't figure out how to select an approriate output paper profile as is done in LR or Photoshop. Doesn't seem to be a way to tell Adobe Reader to manage the color. I can turn off having the printer manage the color in the Adobe Reader printer dialog screen, but have no idea what profile Adobe Reader is using when it sends the file to the printer. I get somewhat accurate color but well off that produced by a direct LR4 print.
I've also tried exporting the PDF from the Book Module with the appropriate printer/paper profile chosen as the "Color Profile" (e.g. Canon iPF8300 Premium Semi-Glossy paper 2 280 (high)) and then printing from Adobe Reader with color management turned off in the printer and get decent color but still does not match up with the accurate colors produced by LR4 or CS5 using the same paper profile. My guess is Adobe Reader is not just passing the file on but is changing something before sending to my iPF8300 printer.
Is there a more color aware program I can use to print these PDF's? Am I missing something really obvious here?
Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
Conrad

When you open Lightroom and go to the Book Module the first time, it must do two things:
1. The Book module has a more sophisticated text engine than the other modules and it must load fonts that are installed on the system into memory. The more fonts on your system the greater the potential delay.
2. To a greater extent, when you first open the Book module, all of the page-templates must load into memory for access. Once loaded, they do not need to be loaded again until you close Lightroom.
No matter how much processor or Ram you have will not appreciably affect these two operations. They are purely disk-read operations and are primarily limited by your disk data path.
Map Module requires interface with the internet to access Maps.
Web and Slideshow can be sped up by not having large numbers of available images standing by to render. Keeping the toolbar set to "Selected Images Only" rather than "All Filmstrip Images" helps this.

Page caption text won't flow into multiple columns : LR4 book module

Hi,
I'm in process of creating a photobook using LR4's Book Module. Whenever I create a multiple columns page or photo caption, the text won't flow from the 1st column into the suceeding column... does this happen to anybody else. The multiple columns feature however does work for normal text placeholders.

Dorin,
You guess right but that's not very useful to me because sometimes I just want to have a few lines of text at the bottom or at the top of the photo but in 2 or 3 columns for easier reading. I can do that with text placeholders like the one below and the ability to do that with page or photo caption would be desirable too.

LR4 - Book module takes forever to load

OK....so I've asked this question previously on both here and the Photoshop Feedback forum, without any real answers/responses. So I'm giving it one last shot....
Here's the deal - when I first start LR4, loading the Book, Slideshow, Map and to a lesser extent, Web modules take forever. Especially the Book module - it takes a good 25-30 seconds to load. Once it's loaded it's fine. I've been told everything from "that's normal" to there's something wrong with my computer.
Laptop Spec's - Spring 2010 15" MBP 2.4 i5 with 8gigs of RAM, 256mb video RAM, 500gig 7500rpm HD.
Other's have reported similar delays (none reaching 25-30 seconds though), where as others don't have any issues at all. Would appreciate any thoughts/input/encouragement before I kick LR4 to the curb permanently.

When you open Lightroom and go to the Book Module the first time, it must do two things:
1. The Book module has a more sophisticated text engine than the other modules and it must load fonts that are installed on the system into memory. The more fonts on your system the greater the potential delay.
2. To a greater extent, when you first open the Book module, all of the page-templates must load into memory for access. Once loaded, they do not need to be loaded again until you close Lightroom.
No matter how much processor or Ram you have will not appreciably affect these two operations. They are purely disk-read operations and are primarily limited by your disk data path.
Map Module requires interface with the internet to access Maps.
Web and Slideshow can be sped up by not having large numbers of available images standing by to render. Keeping the toolbar set to "Selected Images Only" rather than "All Filmstrip Images" helps this.

Book Module format issue with Blurb

I uploaded a book to Blurb with two separate 2 page spreads filled with one photo across the two pages. This first photo appears mismatched with the right side being slightly smaller than the left side. The second photo appears with properly matched sizes.
When I export the book as a PDF both images are cooreclty sized and aligned. Have tried my book creation & upload on windows 32 bit and windows 64 bit. Same results.
Is there any solution to this glitch or some sort of work around?

trshaner wrote:
Essentially there is only one Blurb.icc file and its paper type agnostic.
No such thing really. Profiles must take paper into account. Like you, I have that swatch book and measured each. They are all over the map in terms of their measured values for paper and worse, OABs. One size doesn't fit all but can if you don't mind suboptimal to really poor results!
My guess is that the single Blurb.icc profile is actually the Blurb Standard paper profile.
It isn't even a blurb standard paper profile, it's based on GRACoL which I'm fairly certainly isn't what they are producing on all those papers given the standards. What they are doing is supplying a profile for soft proofing that has no bearing on the output to make those who feel they kind of, sort of understand color management and want to soft proof feel better. If you owned an Epson printer and output to Luster paper, how would supplying a profile for that printer but based on Matt work out? Not well. This is akin to the silly photo lab, RGB workflow where you are given an output profile you can't use and told to send sRGB. Rather pointless but if it makes the user feel that by soft proofing they've done something useful, better than a sharp stick in the eye.
Based on sending the same images to differing vendors who produce books using Indigo (at least for the inside of the book), Blurb is far from best in class in my experience. And for B&W, on top of all the issues I've outlined, even the best shop is going to have issues with the Indigo screening which produces crossover in terms of color over the press sheet. That alone is a problem unless HP has updated their screening as they have promised for some time. Dead nuts neutral is hard to do!

Book Module Export PDF Quality Poor - any solutions?

Hello,
I am trying to figure out a solid solution / workflow for making PDF porfolio's for clients.
The commercial studio where I work needs to send pdf portfolio's to potential clients quite often.
So far we have not been able to find a perfect solution on how to do this with any adobe product (including ACROBAT!)
one of 2 things seem to continually happen.
1. Gigantic file sizes for decent quality PDF's (75 mb +)
2. Horrible color shifts and degraded picture quality for usably sized (3-7mb) portfolio's.
I was hopeful that the new Book Module in LR4 would solve this issue.
admitedly the quality is better IF I save it at jpeg quality 100 and a dpi of 240 but this resulted in a 74 MB file (for 31 images on a 8x10 page)
I clearly can not send a file that large with email....
as soon as I make the dpi or jpeg quality lower they look like total garbage...
Further more the colors shift greatly (on the lower res versions) when opened in something other then Acrobat reader (ie Mac Preview)
Could someone please share a workflow that will result in profesional quality PDF's at a screen resolution.
We have / use the CS5 suite / LR4 / Acrobat Pro
In short as a PRO studio I want PRO quality our of my PRO software...
I would like to keep it as simple and streamlined as possible.
and if at all possible do it all within LR4.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
thanks.

Thanks, I haven't used the LR4 Book module that much and only saw the 'Export Book to PDF' button at the left-bottom of the screen. I tried a Book module 'PDF' Export using 7x7 size, Quality 80, sRGB, 150 dpi, and Standard Glossy sharpening. Here are the results:
1) PDF file size = 3.3 MB
2) Standard Optimized PDF (Acrobat 9 compatibility) = 3.2 MB
I next tried the 'Export Book to PDF' button:
3) PDF file size = 4.8 MB
4) Standard Optimized PDF (Acrobat 9 compatibility) = 975 KB
When viewed on my 25" 1920 x1080 monitor on Windows 7 64bit in Acrobat 9 Pro at 'Fit to Page' zoom size all four PDF files look identical in color and sharpness. When viewed in 'Full Screen' mode only the largest file size PDF (#3 above) created using the 'Export Book to PDF' button exhibits good sharpness. This is probably due to the size of the exported JPEG image having insufficient resolution to fill the screen at 100% (1:1 pixel mapping):
7" x 7" Book at 150 dpi = 6.88" x 150 = 1032x 1032 (Mapped to my 1920 x 1080 monitor)
Requires 1080/6.88" = 157 dpi minimum
7" x 7" Book at 170dpi = 6.88” x 170= 1170 x 1170 (Mapped to your 2560 x 1440 monitor)
Requires 1440/6.88" = 210 dpi minimum
I next created a Book PDF file (3.7 MB) with the above calculated 157 dpi for my 1920 x1080 monitor viewing in Full Screen mode. The results are as sharp as the full-size ‘Export Book to PDF’ file (4.8 MB). I then tried a PDF optimization of the 4.8 MB file using Acrobat Optimization downsample setting of 157 dpi for images above 235 dpi and obtained an equally sharp file 1.0 MB in size. So this method still seems to produce a smaller file than obtainable direct from the LR Book module.
For your NEC MultiSync PA271w monitor with higher 2560 x1440 resolution try using 210 dpi, 80 quality and Standard Glossy Sharpening. When I used Matte High settings the image was clearly over-sharpened for screen viewing. Next try the ‘Export to PDF’ button and then ‘PDF Optimization’ in Acrobat Pro using 210 dpi downsample setting. It shouldn’t hurt to go slightly higher in dpi, but you don’t want to go lower than ‘Full Screen’ 1:1 pixel mapping.

LR4.2 & 4.3 crash when entering book module

Hi,
Both the LR4.2 & 4.3 Crash when I enter to the book module...
Anyone with the same problem ?
Thank you !
Julien

Ok, thanks again.
I gave a big hug to my iMac when I saw my Library module raising from the graves (sorry for my terrible french-english...)
But when I go to the book module, it's just goes wrong... -> Exit ...
I don't know if there's a link but I've replaced my superdrive with a SSD drive and so there have been some movement in my HDDs ...
All the applications are on the SSD but the preferences files are on the old HDD. (Someone did the change for me, I'm just a Mac's newbie...)
Do you think it can be the sources of my problems ?
What should I do with all that mess ... ?
Thanks,
Julien

Book module of lightroom changed book format

I am having an issue with the book module of lightroom (using it for blurb)
I made a book chosing the large landscape format.
I completed it all and only when exporting to blurb, surprised by the low price,
I had noticed that it had become a "standard format".
I never had changed the format.
So I made a copy of the book, changed the format.
And in order to do that I confirmed that I would accept changes in layout.
Lightroom did not to a bad job,but
1) some pictures had disappeared
2) some pages templates were not available in large book format (e.g. the 4x3 multiple page)
I started correcting the book again and half way I noticed that lightroom HAD CHANGED AGAIN THE FORMAT
and brought it back to standard format, WITHOUT ASKING FOR CONFIRMATION.
I am now starting again.
Not nice to have to redo again considerable work on a 160 pages book, on a deadline.
Definitely there is something to be fixed there.
If anyone had experienced anything like this, please let me know
I will try to reformat the book again now, hoping that it will work.
Otherwise I have really no idea about what to do.

Are you using Lr 4.3? If not, upgrade to Lr 4.3. There were issues with the Book Module in Lr 4.1.
For Lr 4.xx users the upgrade to Lr 4.3 is free of charge.
Download it from Adobe's website, install it, and - when asked - enter your serial #.

How can i type in arabic in Lightroom 5 book module?

i'm trying to type in arabic in the book module but the letters are always seperated how can i fix this ?
thank you

You get the develop module to function properly by installing the standalone installation of Lightroom. If the develop module is disabled you still have the creative cloud installation. It will have to be removed. You can download from here:
Adobe - Lightroom : For Windows : Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5.7.1
Adobe - Lightroom : For Windows : Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5.7.1
Performing this uninstall/reinstall will have no impact on your images or the work you have done in Lightroom. The catalog and your images are left intact.

How Do I edit/create customised page formats in Lightroom 4 Book module?

Better still, how can I import page formats already created in Blurb's BookSmart program?

You are not doing anything wrong - except to try this in the Lr Book Module.
The Lr Book Module is not a full fledged book layout program, and many things that you expect for a book layout program can't be done.
I would not be so "picky" as to wanting to avoid any up- or downsampling.
But if you absolutely have to, use Blurb Booksmart or Adobe InDesign to do this. In Blurb Booksmart you can design an image box to exact dimensions in inches.
In Lr you cannot do this, a feature that many users want but it seems that Adobe is adamant that templates is the way to go. Lr 5 beta has not changed this.
You can download Blurb Booksmart free of charge from Blurb's website. You will like the freedom of page design that Booksmart offers.
Disadvantages: Your workflow is more complicated than using the Book Module in Lr. And you are bound to print with Blurb.
With Booksmart you have to export the images from Lr to a specific folder from which Booksmart loads the images. But every time you change an image in Lr you have to export it again and load it again in Booksmart.
If you also use the Blurb plug-in for Lr you can create a Blurb Publish Service. Changes to an image that has already been published have to be re-published in Lr but the changes will "carry through" into the book automatically.
Finally, I question whether you can actually test the size of an image in the Lr Book Module by printing the page with your printer. There are reports on this forum that the printed image size is not exactly as shown in the Lr Print Module. I have observed this too with my printer. Mostly the printed image is about 1/8 of an inch larger than in the Lr Print Module. The reason might lie in how the printer translates pixels into ink droplets - just a guess of mine.

Can I Control Book Module Zoom Levels in LR4

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I'm frustrated that using zoom in/out in Book module doesn't seem to let me control the level of zoom. On my macbook this makes text in captions either too small to read without straining or too large to see more than a few words at a time. I can control Grid size virtually everywhere else - can i do something about this in Book? Any help would be appreciated.
I finally found this thread. Not a perfect solution but better than nothing.
http://forums.adobe.com/message/4479451

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Why does book module not export ?

Lightroom’s Book Module may crash on export to pdf and Blurb.
This is not a new topic, I know, but a frustratingly regular one. As it has happened to me on several occasions with several books I offer advice but would like to be given some too. Please don’t anyone say I shouldn’t expect the module to handle text as well as InDesign – this problem is a basic instability within the software, or so I believe. There is no obvious reason for the export to get almost to the end and then crash and there is no dialogue box that says what’s wrong with the book. When the report dialogue box appears, there is never any useful response.
I recommend, and will follow my own advice religiously from now on:
1. At the end of every day working with a Lightroom book, export to pdf to check it’s working.
2. Always, when doing anything with Lightroom, quit Lightroom and back up the catalogue at the end of the day.
3. If you’ve are doing a lot of work in a session, quit Lightroom from time to time and back up the catalogue more frequently than in 1 & 2 above.
4. If Lightroom should crash unexpectedly, don’t just carry on after re-opening it. It is quite likely that a book’s data has been compromised, so try to export it to pdf to check. If that fails, re-open a previous back-up and re-do your lost work.
5. If you have not been doing regular checks and back-ups, and there was an unannounced problem at some earlier stage, the danger that arises is that your catalogue has developed photos and structure that will be lost if you have to return to an early back-up to regain control of the book export function. It is very hard work, but occasionally possible, to discover what the problem with the export is and change the page with the problem. Don't bank on that.
I am going to take the opportunity in the next couple of days to start restructuring a 120 page book that no longer exports. I'll re-type it all from scratch. I couldn’t possibly, reliably, carry on in any other way. If you think it would be possible to avoid this labour, plese let me know how.

If you do file >> export in CS6 you should see tif here and these settings
The plug in that creates these is here
/Applications/Adobe Illustrator CS6/Plug-ins.localized/Illustrator Formats.localized/TIFF.aip/
Your plug in may be damaged, or a setting that works with this. Try resetting the illustrator preferences as this fixes many items.

I am having trouble typing text in the book module in Lightroom 4.3

Hi, I am trying to create a book in the "book module" in Lightroom 4.3. Putting pictures in the picture containers doesn't seem to be a problem, but when I try to type in text into the text containers it will not let me. I click onto an empty text container, it highlights, then I cannot get a cursor to appear and it will not let me type in text. I have watched several videos now on making books in the book module and all they do is click on the text container and start typing, it looks like it should be easy. Please help, thanks

Juan Z wrote:
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This is just feeddback from a few moments with the Beta version of LR4.
Then it should have been posted here: http://forums.adobe.com/community/labs/lightroom4?view=discussions

Book Module Export To JPEG Does Not Apply Sharpening

I'm running LR4.1 on Windows 7 64 bit with 5D MK ii raw images and just discovered the Book module 'Export Book to JPEG' produces files that do not have output sharpening applied.
Book = JPEG
Size = Standard Landscape
Cover = Hardcover Image Wrap
JPEG Quality = 90
File Resolution = 300 ppi
Sharpening = (Every setting produces the same results)
Media Type = (Every setting produces the same results)
When selecting 'Book = PDF' the sharpening is very obvious and is applied as expected based on the Sharpening setting:
Glossy Low = least sharpening
Matte High = most sharpening
Maybe I'm doing something wrong since I can't find a single post in the LR forums where this has been raised, but maybe not!
Can anyone help out or verify?

Are we looking at printed or screen proofs here?
Not that I have an answer for you but sharpening might not be visible on screen if that is what you are comparing. Sharpening for print should differ for print processes from sharpening for screen. The 'print' sharpening, presumably for inkjet although it should be for offset, will be related to final image size, so viewing on screen at a potentially different size and resolution might be obscuring what would occur in a printing process.
I can't verify since I am still using LR3.6.

Unable to Publish from Book Module LR-4.2 to Blurb

Windows 7
Adobe CS5
Lightroom 4.2
Have not been able to publish to Blurb after creating a book in the Book Module
All images are jpegs and of sufficient resolution to be printed.
Variety of Error messages have occurred. Sometimes the message identifies a specific digital image.
Once at least there was no evidence that an image with the name and number given was in my file.
Using internal hard drives.
Have tried working with Tech from Adobe.
Earlier was also having trouble converting Book Module images to PDF, but for unknown reasons
it worked, but the same file could not be published to Blurb.

I would consider it more simple to copy the images on portable storage space and plug that into the computer you will use for book creating.
First you should go for LR4.3RC, as a heinous bug in book module has been fixed, which is still present in LR4.2 (book being empty all of a sudden).
If you still prefer to work on 2 computers on 1 book: export the saved book=a collection of type book as catalog, including previews and negatives.
Import this partial catalog on the 2nd machine (Import from Another Catalog), because thus collection membership travels along from one catalog to the other.
Then select it and switch to book module.
Export as catalog before you switch computers again.
Cornelia

LR4 Book-module: formatting type

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