LR4 external editor

LR4 defaults to CS6 beta and will not let me select CS5. What to do?
Mike

Install as a additional external Editor:
Frans

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Setting the Primary External Editor in LR4

How can I set the primary External Editor in LR4? I recently upgraded to CS5.5, then uninstalled CS5 and now Lightroom thinks it should use CS4 which is not longer installed. I've unstalled and reinstalled LR4 and nothing changed. I deleted the preferences file and nothing changed.
Why isn't there an easy way to change this setting?
David

Winner, Winner, chicken dinner!
Thanks so much trshaner. A modified Solution 2 from the link you provided below fixed it i.e. The Photoshop.exe Key was already there, so I just changed it to point to the CS5.5 path. woala!
"The simplest solution is to reinstall PS CS5.5, or follow the other procedures outlined at the link jim01403 provided:
http://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/multi/edit-photoshop-command-missin g-photoshop.html"
All the best,
David

Changing external editor in LR4

Hallo,
Recently I have changed from CS4 to CS6. No when I open an image in LR4 and will do" edit in open as smart object", I can not select this option even the HDR or the pano option. In my external editor there is still edit in Photoshop CS4 instead of PS CS6. My additional editor there I can select my PS CS6 because I have add the CS6 as additional editor.

See this Knowledge-Base article:
http://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/multi/edit-photoshop-command-missing-photoshop.html

Why doesn't LR4 offer Bridge CS6 as external editor although it does so with Photoshop CS6?

I shoot in RAW, download my photos into LR 4 and was expecting to edit them with ACR7 before opening them in Photoshop CS6. Photoshop CS6 is automatically offered as an external editor and so is Bridge, but not the latest version of Bridge. After several frustating attempts I finally found out I had to go into the Preferences panel and manually link the bridge.exe app to Bridge CS6!

I have CS6 myself (as well as LR) and do not (or rarely) use bridge. However, I can see a few scenarios where Bridge bundled with Lightroom would be useful.
Lightroom only shows you what is in the Lightroom Catelog, not what is actually on your file store. (ok you can synch or import, but these are work arounds to see what is actually in your folders).
Lightroom only recognises various file types, and you may have multiple other types of files to support your file / project structure (eg PDF's, Indd, autocad, excel, word).
There are times when an image savvy folder browser is useful.
So, I agree with going direct between LR and PS, but somtimes the macro view of your digital assets is what is required.

External editors and read-only folders

I'm trying to use LR4 to work on NEF images I'd imported from a read-only directory. While regular LR4 editing works, using an external editor doesn't because LR4 insists on trying to write a file into that read-only directory. Is there a way to persuade LR4 to put the files it uses to communicate with external editors somewhere else? I intentionally want to keep my NEF directories read-only because they're synced with other programs (which would get upset by LR4 sneaking extra files in there) and because I don't want to accidentally alter anything there.

Not for secondary editors.
Only the primary Photoshop CSx can open a file wihtout creating it first. Then tiy ba use Save As from Photoshop to choose another location.

Problem with using Photoshop Elements as external editor

I am currently trying out Lightroom 4 prior to (maybe) buying it.
I have set PhotoshopElementsEditor.exe as my external editor preference, but when I try to use it, I get the following eror message:- Unexpected error performing command; bad argument #1 to 'lower' (string expected, got nil).
Can anyone please help?

Thanks very much for your help. I have installed LR4.1RC and it has fixed
the problem.
Andrew

PSE12 as a Lightroom External Editor

I have just purchased & installed PSE12 and want to use it as a external editor with Lightroom 4. I have set up LR4, but when I ask LR4 to edit a photo in PSE12, the PSE12 Editor opens but no image appears. I had an older copy of PSE8 set up this way, and the editible image appeared just fine. What do I need to do differently? In LR4, I have PSE12 set-up as an additional external editor with PSD format, 8 bits, Adobe RGB (1998) and 300 resolution. I am working on an iMac running OSX 10.8.5.
Thanks in advance for any help with this

In Lightroom, where you set up the external editor, you need to point the the PSE12 Editor app executable and not the PSE12 application itself. As I am not a Mac user, I cannot provide the exact details.

Using Photoshop as external editor

On a 64 bit machine with the 64 bit version of LR installed, evoking Photoshop as external editor still incorrectly opens the 32 bit version of PS, not the 64 bit as used to happen with LR4. One can work around this if one remembers to open the 64 bit version of PS beforehand, but still, this is surely an easy bug to correct.

Which version of Windows are you using Walterono?
Also, have you tried resetting Lightroom's preferences and trying again?
Do you get the same behavior?
blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2013/06/lightroom-basic-troubleshooting-to-fix-most-issue s.html#Preferences
Let me know how it goes,
regards
PG

Why do external editors i.e. nik plug-ins disappear from the Edit in menu?

Time and time again , after creating external editors in the Edit in menu, they disappear. I've had this happen in LR3 and now in LR4. Does anyone know of this?

daikambu65 wrote:
Corky, I just tried the path you suggested. I moved the files up one level from LIbrary>Application Assistants>Aperture>Plug Ins>Edit to the Plug Ins folder. It worked.
I can now start the NIK plugins either from the pull-down meny under photo in the Menu Bar, or by right-clicking my mouse.
A slight change of subject. I've got the 200-page book, Exploring Aperture. Also have the downloaded .pdf file of the same book. How is it that, on the Apple Support webpage, they have a .pdf book for Aperture 3.4 that is 800-pages? Did anyone else notice that?
Good to hear you got it working.
The 'Exploring Aperture' is the book that came with Aperture 3 in the retail box (in downloadable form). It goes along with the Sample library that was on the install disc and was designed to walk new users through the basics of the program.
The 800+ page PDF is the actual user's manual which describes all aspects of Aperture 3.4 in detail (although there may be some omissions here and there due to updates since 3.4). I read the original version of the user's manual when it was Aperture 3.0 and it is very informative (especially if you like that kind of reading - which I do).
If you do read through and understand the user's manual PDF, then you will know the program well. You can use the Exploring Aperture book but there will be references to the sample library which you won't have unless you have the retail install disc.
Note - there are books you can buy, but none of them really cover Aperture 3.4.x (a couple were updated for Aperture 3.3, but some significant changes were made that - IMHO - don't make buying those books of more value than just reading the user's manual). It took me about a week of reading each evening to complete it.

File format passed to external editor

I could do with some help understanding how LR4 passes files to an external editor. My files in LR are RAW, and I am using both Photomatix and the Nik SW bundle. In the "External Editing Preferences" dialogue I have set the file format to TIFF.
To access Photomatix I go through the File>Export menu and it seems that TIFFs get exported. This makes sense to get key LR edits (esp camera profiles etc) burnt into the images that Photmatix sees, and to retain 16b resolution in the exported file. Is this correct? I can separately define the output (i.e. from Photomatix) file format in Photomatix itself.
Most of the Nik editors though are accessed through the Photo->Edit In menu though, and this pops up an additional "Specify Copy file" dialogue. I only get the option to pass the "Original with LR edits" as I'm working in RAW, this makes sense as above. I get an additional option to enter a copy file format of TIFF,PSD or JPEG though. Does this specify (a) the exported file format, (b) the file format to reimport, or (c) both? If (a) or (c) and I select (say) JPEG, it must be overriding the settings I have in "External Editing Preferences"..?
Many thanks, Steve

My problem is not the master file name but the random names. Lets say the original file name is _DSC0058 and I have done a rename of this project and the new file name is Jeanne 05. When I send it to CS3 it comes back Jeanne 006.
I am currently rebuilding my library because this problem is not happening in all projects.
Jeffrey

Lightroom 4 does not work with external editor

Hi All,
I am using Lightroom 4 and Photoshop elements 9 on Mac OSX. I upgraded from LR3 to LR4 a few weeks ago and since I updated I can not anymore use Photoshop Elements 9 as external editor. I did all setups, still does not work.
Anyone has an idea what could be the issue or did anyone experience the same issue?
Thanks,
Csaba

http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2012/03/lightroom-4-1-now-available-on-adobe-labs. html
Bugs Corrected in the Lightroom 4.1 Release Candidate
Lightroom 4 did not properly open external applications when using the “Edit In” functionality.

Using Adobe Bridge as Aperture 3 External Editor

I have a problem that I can't seem to solve and I'm hopeful that a post here can get me closer to some resolution. I recently started using Bridge for noise reduction and PS for high pass sharpening. The downside is my work flow is now shot full of holes! I have Bridge as my external editor; I make the edits in Bridge then do a high pass sharpen as well as any other edits I might choose to make in PS. If I need to, I flatten the image if I have layers. It is here that my problem begins.
Aperture creates the new tiff version within it's program as soon as I choose to edit in Bridge, but I don't know the exact process to save that image while in Bridge or Photoshop to reflect the changes in Aperture. Another question I have is which version of the image in Bridge I should be editing the jpeg or tiff? any help here would be greatly appreciated!

I use Bridge as editor because once there, I go into "camera raw" to process images.
So now you're bringing a third app into the equation. Bridge, ACR and Photoshop are all individual applications. If you're not using an app like Aperture then Bridge might be the front end for the other two, but in the case you describe it has no role.
Another thing to think about: ACR ("camera Raw") is for processing Raws - which job you are currently doing with Aperture. You're not sending Raws to Bridge/ACR... You're sending tiffs.
I think you need to rethink your workflow somewhat. I'm not sure you've grasped what the various tools actually do.
Regards
TD

Feature Request: Option to Load Master in External Editor

Right now, if I want to edit a file in an external editor, Aperture makes a version first. While I understand the design reasoning, I need to override this behavior in two specific cases:
First, sometimes I want to use Adobe Camera Raw to process a RAW file. Aperture should allow me to do this directly from the application without exporting the master and loading it from the Finder.
Second, and this is more important for me, I'd like Aperture to send original layered PSD files as imported back to Photoshop for editing. Aperture will import my layered PSD files without difficulty. If I export the master, I get the original file. But if I try to open it in an external editor (Photoshop) from Aperture, Aperture makes a flattened intermediate version. That's not what I want - and it destroys my non-destructive workflow by flattening all my layers in Photoshop. What I'd like is an option to have Aperture send the master layered PSD file to Photoshop, allow me to edit it, and perhaps save the changes back in Aperture as modifications to the original layered PSD file.
There's an interesting semantic issue. "Non-destructive" is more than just not touching the original files. It's allowing for a workflow which can be rolled back to previous states. My work in Photoshop uses layers, masks, adjustments, and channels to achieve this. I need Aperture to allow me to keep using Photoshop in a non-destructive way, while enabling me to edit my RAWs and other flattened files in the powerful ways that Aperture offers.

Managing layered PSD files in Aperture
For those who absolutely must manage layered PSD files in Aperture, here is the way to do it...
1- In your original PSD file, HIDE ALL LAYERS above the background layer
2- IMPORT this PSD file into Aperture
3- CREATE A VERSION in Aperture by choosing to edit externally in Photoshop.
4- Back in Photoshop OPEN THE ORIGINAL PSD file along with the new version
5- LINK all the LAYERS in the original PSD file and DRAG them TO the new VERSION (holding the shift key down so they pin register)
6- SAVE the new version in Photoshop
7- Back in Aperture your version is now an exact layered copy of your original which will not flatten when reopened from Aperture into Photoshop.
Obviously this process will be rather tedious if you need to deal with hundreds of layered PSD files, but if you are in that situation that implies you already have a workflow and a storage strategy that works well for you. So why change, especially to Aperture?
Adobe Bridge or Media Pro or Portfolio are the obvious programs for you !
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A Better Way to Edit RAW with External Editor?

The settings for the external editor will only let you edit the images in Tiff or PSD, I want to edit the RAW image itself. The only way I know how to do that is expert the master, edit it and then import it back in.
This is a hockey workflow and frustrating especially when I then do a quick fix in Aperture itself and then want to edit the image again externally in GIMP.
I just want to edit the RAW image in my external editor when needed, yet do my folder management within Aperture.

I was afraid of that...
I don't use lightroom or Photoshop. I used to be a Photoshop user until the cost became so prohibitive. I have since switched to using GIMP as my eternal editor, it's native files are .xcf (musch like the Photoshop .PSD) but Aperture doesn't support .xcf files and I doubt they ever will since GIMP is a free open source tool, rather than a commercial product.
I have been playing with 3.01 now for a few days and finding that the heal tool and burn and dodge tools seem to be improved. Even though in GIMP they were destructive to the original RAW file those items were noticeably better in the external editor.
Also, any extreme editing still needs to be done outside of Aperture, so I will take a Catapult or just keep my current workflow....

I am using both PSE 13 and Lightroom 5. When I use Lightroom as an external editor and save the photo, it shows up in PSE13 as an edited file but does not look any different. Why doesn't it appear edited?

I am using both PSE 13 and Lightroom 5. When I use Lightroom as an external editor and save the photo, it shows up in PSE13 as an edited file but does not look any different. Why doesn't it appear edited?

People who have Photoshop, but don't have Lightroom, need ACR so that they can use Raw files. Without ACR they could do nothing with those (they may also like having ACR so that they can work on other kinds of image using the same kinds of adjustments and techniques, as are used with Raw files).
People who have Lightroom, can get access to Raw files regardless whether ACR is present or not. They can use Lightroom on other kinds of image also, using the same methods. LR can pass images directly into Photoshop without passing via ACR (or else does so transparently, which amounts to substantially the same thing).
ACR does not, strictly speaking, even need to be installed for this external editing to happen. In fact, not even PS needs to be - since a different image editor can be used instead, while still retaining the Adobe Raw conversion etc.
Lightroom "subcontracts out" specialised external tasks, in this workflow, but is still your "main contractor": the image is otherwise located, viewed, managed, adjusted/presented and output entirely using LR.
So IMO we can divide image processing into:
operations that involve pixels and layers and layer masks and adjustment layers etc (of the kind done inside Photoshop)
operations that involve parametric edits (of the kind done in ACR where you are not using a Lightroom based workflow; otherwise, done inside Lightroom)
When PS is called in, that's because those tasks are impossible or unsuitable to do in Lightroom. But those tasks can't be done in ACR either - by definition, since LR and ACR have exactly the same image processing "feature set".
Lightroom is irrelevant to the Bridge + ACR + PS workflow. This workflow requires both your PS and your ACR to be current enough, to support your Raw format etc.
ACR and Bridge are irrelevant to the LR + (image editor) workflow. It is in this case, only LR which needs to be current enough to support your Raw format etc.
RP

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