Lr4 Install+AVOID lr3 catalog possible?

Just downloaded the Lr4 final
Had to search around to see if the beta was to be uninstalled. Never did find that info.
At this time I do not want to merge or connect to the Lr3 catalog. Is there a distinct choice to accomplish that while installing Lr4?
The beta version took over the file association of .Ircat so attempting to open an old Lr3 catalog was stopped with the message that it did not fit with Lr4
Is this the expected behaviour post install Lr4?
Rose

eswrite wrote:
A colleague of mine can't access his 3.x catalog after LR4 installed and converted his catalog. In my case, I can access either the old 3.x catalog using LR3.6 or the converted 4.0 catalog with LR4. Is there a reason for his 3.x catalog somehow being gone or inaccessible?
No reason as far as Lightroom is concerned. Perhaps he uninstalled LR3.x?? What exactly are the symptoms of "can't access"?
His main concern is that point curve edits he had made in 3.x are gone from the 4.0 catalog. I've read LR4.1 should recover those. Is that his best way forward?
These two paragraphs are not the same thing at all. Unrelated to one another. Mark me down as confused.
Anyway, yes the LR4.1 Release Candidate fixes the point curve issue.

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I try to answer your questions. I also have a large list of hierarchical keywords (funny ... also botanical names) but not as much as you have.
1) I think that Lr3 is able to handle your list of keywords. I have not heard from anybody that there is a limit to the number of keywords that Lr is able to handle.
2) There seem to be some keyword issues in Lr4. My keywords were perfectly fine in Lr3 but after upgrading to Lr4 some of my keywords were not populated, meaning that the keywords themselves were listed in the keyword list but the image count showed 0. I still have my Lr3 catalog so was able to check (with Lr3) that, indeed, in Lr3 all the keywords in question were populated with the correct number of images. Fortunately there were not too many of these not-populated keywords, so I corrected the issue manually.
Since correct keywords are mandatory for your stock business, you are right in hesitating to upgrade to Lr4. In my opinion, the improvements that Lr4 offers over Lr3 are mainly in areas that are - probably - not so important to a stock business: improvements in the Develop Module and new Process Version, the Book Module, the map Module. On the other hand I would think that image management is paramount for you and in this area Lr4 is not much different than Lr3.
3) You will not be able to get an upgrade to Lr3 from Adobe now that Lr4 has been released. So you had to find a 3rd party vendor (B&H? Amazon?) who still sells Lr3.
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First you say you deleteted (yes, that's your word) the catalog accidentally. Then in the next sentence you say "The catalog is situated on an external hard drive", present tense, as if you are speaking of a different catalog file that you actually have available. So, I think this is a COPY of the catalog file.
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