LR4 Not Including Sidecar Files in Backup Destination

I've noticed that when I import files (NEF's) into LR4 and back them up to a second location (external hard drive) the sidecar files are included in the primary destination folder but not in the backup folder. I checked my LR3 backup folders and the same thing is happening.
I'm sure that there is an explanation for this, but I'll be @#$%^& if I know what it is. Does someone have an answer?

Thanks.
I usually import "raws" directly into Lightroom from a CF card (out of a Nikon camera), so I'm not sure what program could be generating sidecar files. I've checked the cameras and they don't seem to be generating any   I also specify "no adjustments" in the import dialog. The side car files are always present in the primary import location. .
This isn't a critical issue, but I sure am curious to know why it is happening.
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 06:52:58 -0700
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Subject: LR4 Not Including Sidecar Files in Backup Destination
    Re: LR4 Not Including Sidecar Files in Backup Destination
    created by ssprengel in Photoshop Lightroom 4 - View the full discussion
XMP Sidecar files may exist at the time of import, either because the files were edited in Bridge/ACR or Lightroom, itself, or another XMP-creating program such as GeoSetter that can create an XMP with GPS tags in it.
    Whether those XMP sidecar files should be copied to a secondary location on import remains an open question.
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- in the beginning of this problem, these were cr2 files. It was then possible, to click on the icon/questionmark and trigger a dialogue "forget sidecar / continue?" but only for single files, NOT for a selection on click - come on.
- I converted the entire folder to dng files (my usual setting), NOW, the question marks all are still there, but NO dialog available any more on click.
- I pressed ctrl-S to create a sidecar file - zero reaction, nothing. Is there a secret place for sidecar files I would have to know?
I can of course remove photos from the catalog, and re-sync - this cures the issue.
- Up until now, I had a reliable catalog of approx. 16k photos - is this the end of it? I do do backups, but I can't afford a "sometimes" performance of Lightroom.
- what do I do about development settings already done when removing /re-syncing photos to get rid of the icons and "missing sidecars" (I don't miss them, why does LR)??
Anyways, this issue pops up on the forum on 1.1 and 2.3 versions... any sugggestions how to go about this on 2.7? Is this a feature?
thanks,
Gerd

Dear dj_paige,
thank you for your note,
please see my comment to your email below in your text
DNG photos do not have sidecar files. So, their absence is not a problem.
- I know, I never generated any sidecar files and understand that there should be none for DNG. However, for the CR2 files, LR displayed the prominent ? and tooltip "sidecar file missing", and this persists even after converting to DNG.
I'm not sure what problem re-synching will cure. I do not recommend you "remove photos from the catalog, and re-sync", as you lose information that is catalog only (such as collection membership, edit history, color labels, pick flags and a few other things). In fact, I think it is a terrible idea.
- agreed. For this reason, I sent a note to the forum
If your catalog within Lightroom is working properly (and you haven't really convinced me that there is anything wrong), then again I don't know what the problem is.
- See above: for the CR2 files, LR displayed the prominent ? and tooltip "sidecar file missing", and this persists even after converting to DNG. Nothing else is wrong, HOWEVER, this icon and message is nonsense and should not be displayed
It sounds as if you are using the metadata as some form of backup of your catalog. It is not a backup; metadata enables you to share *some* information from your Lightroom with other applications. Other information in your catalog is not stored in the metadata written to files. The only way to create a backup of your catalog is to actually make a backup of the catalog file, which is a Lightroom option you can turn on. I consider making backups of your catalog file to be mandatory.
- NO, your assumption is incorrect. I do backup the entire catalog file.
Best regards,
Gerd

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