LSO-External WBT

Hi ,
Currently we are using delivery method external elearnig with course content static( urk) infotype. After bookng and completing the coures we are directly uploading the results in HRPAD614.
Now, we are planing to go for Ext. WBT delivery method and want to use the fucntionalities like tracking progress etc, i konw that to use external WBT we need to use AE to get all the fucntionalities - need to maintain course type content.
Can any one please let us know with out using LSO AE tool can we get all the information using the url of the external system directly configured in the system.
Thanks
Kumar

Hi,
you would need to use the webservices available for LSO:
http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/c0aeb020-947d-2b10-048c-82618df6d3d0?quicklink=index&overridelayout=true
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Error 1: Problems have occurred with the external course provider
Error 2: An error occurred when determining the business system (COMMUNICATION_ERROR)
I have done a little bit of research and came across this URL:
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So does this mean XI Web Services must be setup some how? Bit confused how this works.
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Shaun
Please also check if all settings pertaining to the external provider are maintained properly (transaction SLG1, object HCM_LSO)

Hi - I am by no means an expert in this but yes, to connect to externally hosted content, SAP delivers web services via PI (used to be XI.) Documentation can be found: http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_05/helpdata/EN/9b/960440a3135509e10000000a1550b0/frameset.htm
Customers have also used AICC to implement this - less flexible but provides the functionality often needed without use of PI.
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Hello experts,
Frequently, when launching Ext WBT courses-- we receive the following error:
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Status FAILURE
The issue seems to be sporadic as often times, logging out of the portal then logging back in resolves the issue. If not, we are left to launch an InPrivate Browsing session in IE8 which resolves the problem approximately 90% of the time.
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In the main menu choose the cost item,
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Sushma,
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Max

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LSO 300 - Interfacing to External Training Providers

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By extrenal trainings, do you mean course type which is of type "External WBT" or "External classroom training"?.
If so, then usually information is exchanged bewteen the SAP & the other external system in a standard way through pre-defined messages.I have worked only through XI for such a scenario. In Exchange Infrastrcuture, there are standard XML kind of data which is used for LSO & external trainings. Through this, the booking,cancellation & other related data are passed on to the SAP system from the external systems.
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then if I have a non-sap elearning tool that generates WBT content can I use that content within SAP LSO content player to be used within LSO specific WBT courses? Have you ever come across such a situation? If yes can you please provide any pointers/gotchas or share your experience please?
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G'day Sid,
thanks for your reply mate ... I did go through the note you mentioned before I put this post up,..
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Help! SAP-LSO - LSO-AE "A Read-Write Error Occurred when checking in the Object"

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Mass Upload-Ext Training Results

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I have a issue -we need to upload Ext Training results in SAP LSO ,could any one pls share their ideas on how to upload the results is there any std programm is there or we need to upload manually.
regards
Kumar

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Is it possible to integrate LSO 600 with an external system without SAP PI?

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