LTP & Prod. Versions validity

Hello,
Just wanted to confirm if there is a way to ignore the validity period of production versions during the long term planning run. The validity of our production versions is quite short around 6 to 8 months though the BOM & Recipes validity is long.
We want to carry out the LTP run for around 18 months. Is there a way to ignore the validity of the production versions so that the LTP creates the proposal without any errors ( ie BOM not found messages - msg 52 ). any customizing or other entry to ignore the validity period of the production versions & just take the bom & recipe validity into account????
Many thx.

Dear Muhammad Sharf,
1.You can not ignore the validity dates of the Production version either in MRP or LTP.
2.This is not possible either by doing any settings in the background or in the front end.
3.Just check out this,remove the BOM slection method value 2 in the material master and let it be
blank,lock the production version and then run MS02 and check(I'm not sure whether this work).
Check and revert back.
Regards
Mangalraj.S

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