Lumia 830 cannot charge correctly with car charger...

Guys,
I have tried everything; new charging plates, car window charger replaced and even a hard reset if the phone. The simple fact is that the L830 will not charge when clipped into the holder. If the phone is moved around a little it will make a connection ok. In the normal way when placed in the holder it will simply not begin charging. And no, the phone is not fully charged!

Thank you Blu2t,
I am absolutely sure that the phone is cradled correctly.. but I will try and turn the ensemble into a horizontal position tonight on the way home. Also I would say that I have had the cradle replaced just at the weekend past becasue I thought it was at fault. I now have the CR-201. I have had the phone sitting in the cradle tight against the CR plate and no charging. Then, if I pull the base of the phone away from the CR plate and more towards  the NFC lip (at this position there is a small gap between the phone and the cradle at the bottom) then it will charge but only for say 3 or 4 minutes then it stops charging again. Also when all of this is happening the phone lights up then goes out again, this could happen 4 or 5 times during a 30 minute journey. It finally stops charging and I can see no glance screen then at all.  This is how I first saw the problem., the phone screen would light up for no apparent reason. And I know it only usually lights up when the power is taken away from charging.
Will let you know how I get on tomorrow but I dont hold much hope. I believe the coils are just not in the exactly right position for CR charging. All my other plates are working fine.
And... finally.. I have a CR-201 in another vehicle and it has the same problem. My previous 720 with plate worked prefectly. Hope we can find solution becasuse I really need charging in my car :-)

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