Lync 2013 multitenant hosting pack and lync 2010 on-prem - coexistence options, alternative migration scenarios

In post http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/lync/en-US/8a22eed7-cc63-4f9e-b422-3c5a57fb32b0/lync-2013-multitenant-pack-and-lync-2010?forum=lyncdeploy , which was already answered, the answer is no, you cannot migrate from 2010 on-prem. to lync 2013
hosted pack.
Trying to get my head around #1 -why, and #2 -what other alternatives are available.
Lisa answered that there can only be 1 CMS per forest. Is it one CMS per forest, or
one CMS per front end pool in a forest? Meaning you can have different CMS pools. If that were true, we could migrate users to a different front end pool in a coexistence scenario between 2010 on-prem to 2013 hosted pack.
Has anyone done this?
This is tough. I guess a cutover then from 2010 to 2013 multitenant hosted pack would be what?
1. Uninstall 2010, decommission users, decom environment/servers.
2. Fresh install in same AD environment of 2013 hosted pack.
That's tough for our users to make such a transition and have potentially days of downtime.
Is there no other way to do this?
Josh

It is one CMS per forest.
There is no official guide to move from Microsoft Lync Server to Microsoft Lync Server Multitenant Hosting Pack.
This topic has been discussed several times before:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/lync/en-US/9d438b55-ec53-478a-9247-6d355abedb78/started-installing-lync-2010-enterprise-discovered-multitenant-hosting-pack-do-i-need-to-uninstall?forum=ocsplanningdeployment
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/lync/en-US/ad0b77ca-d47e-457b-8f77-33f84409a119/schema-update-lync-hosting-pack?forum=ocsplanningdeployment
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