Lync 2013 Standard backup questions
Hello
I need to backup our Lync 2013 Standard Edition setup.
We have Only one server atm.
Looking at this post for inspiration:
http://blogs.technet.com/b/heyscriptingguy/archive/2014/06/28/weekend-scripter-basic-lync-server-2013-backup-and-restore-part-1.aspx
As far as i can understand, i don't need to do SQL backup at all? Or am i missing the point?
Would I be able to restore my Lync from these 3 commands:
Export-CSConfiguratiom, Export-CSLisConfiguration and Export-CsUserData - Is that enough for a disasterrecovery?
And a bonus question:
When i run Export-CSLisConfiguration . The export only contains the following:
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<LisDatabase xmlns="urn:schema:Microsoft.Rtc.Lis.Database.2008"/>
Is that not incomplete somehow?
That much would get you back up and running, yes. But it may not be a "full" restore.
For example, if you have persistent chat data, it wouldn't necessarily be included in there. If you have an archiving database where all IMs are sent, that information wouldn't be in the PowerShell exports above. If you don't have a copy of the
certificate and private key, that's lost.
Typically, I run my own custom version of Lasse's backup script https://gallery.technet.microsoft.com/Backup-script-for-Lync-2013-aacbb9b9
That pulls all the data, including your file stores, SQL exports, certificates, and everything into a single folder and zips it for you. If you back those zips up, you'll have most everything.
Restoring directly back into SQL isn't the recommended method, if you did need to get back up you'd want to follow standard restore procedures by using the supported PowerShell, but you'll have other avenues to restore if needed and a more complete copy
of your data.
The LIS export may be complete if you don't have any Lync locations defined. You'd typically enter these for 911 purposes.
Check out Lasse's Channel 9 video as well:
http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/TechEd/Europe/2014/OFC-B331
Check out his backup series docs here as well:
http://tech.rundtomrundt.com/search/label/Backup-Lync2013
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Certificate Requirement for Lync 2013 Standard Edition
I have successfully run the setup of lync 2013 standard edition now I am stuck due to certificates required for lync 2013. when I generate a csr. it show the subjected urls for that.
hostname.domain.com
sip.domain.com
diali.domain.com
meet.domain.com
admin.domain.com
lyncdiscover.domain.com
lyncdiscoverinternal.domain.com
im.domain.com (External URL)
so if I go for 3 party CA then I need 8 certicate only for internal lync. As I also need to connected federated partner and external user so I need Edge for again I need 3 more certificates
web.domain.com
a/v.domain.com
sip.domain.com
now when I go for these certificate it quit costly and I didn't understand why such certifcates required. can anyone help me to fix such requirement.
Or, what are the necessary url to which I buy 3 party CA rest leave as it is.
I also want to deploy Edge with single adopter as we have only one network so can anyone assist me to proceed it further.
Talha Faraz MalikTo save on the cost of your third party certificates, I would deploy an internal certificate authority to sign certificates for your internal front end. For your third party certificate, you would only need the SANs for the edge and for your
reverse proxy and as Edwin said, this can be a single cert with multiple SANs.
For example, for your edge you would need:
sip.domain.com
web.domain.com
You would not need A/V as this role does not require a SAN on your certificate. On the same certificate, which you could also use on your reverse proxy, you'd likely want the following FQDNs.
lyncdiscover.domain.com
im.domain.com (your external web services FQDN)
meet.domain.com
dialin.domain.com
You may also want to consider your internal web services FQDN and include the following so third party mobile devices can connect without needing a certificate installed:
im_internal.domain.com (your internal web services FQDN)
lyncdiscoverinternal.domain.com
I'm sure that's not entirely clear yet, so feel free to ask more questions or what the purpose of each is.
When you say Edge with a single adapter, you mean a single adapter in a DMZ or internal? You definably want two NICS, both in separate DMZs, but I've managed to get the edge working with a single adapter in a DMZ before. What you don't want is
the edge in your internal network.
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Lync 2013- Standard Edition - Persistent Chat
What is the capacity of the Persistent Chat if it is collocated on Lync 2013 Standard edition front end ?
ie, number of chat rooms /usage?
In a Lync 2013 standard edition deployment if Persistent Chat is on separate server, can the SQL be offloaded to central SQL cluster enviornment or it will be held on the local server?I haven't seen a chart that really defines the capacity, and it's difficult to measure because it's difficult to say how active the rooms will be or how much content you'll generate. That much is different from organization to organization.
There are some guidelines in general here:
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg615006(v=ocs.15).aspx but they don't really touch the standard model.
The pChat database can be offloaded to a central SQL cluster if you'd prefer, there are no requirements to collocate it with the local Lync databases.
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Lync 2013 standard edition server disadvantages
I have 3000 users, client is so cost effective , wanna insisting on Lync 2013 standard edition server. no enterprise voice
Feature required :- IM.presence, A/V conf, persistence chat, external access.
planned servers :- 1 Standard server in DC, 1 in DR. 1 edge server in DC and 1 in DR
1. if i make a pool of standard servers, then will it serve as HA, if yes how much time wil take for failover and what would be the impact on users?
2. If complete DC is down how mch time would take for fail-over and what is the procedure, impact on users?
3. can i collocate persistence chat role on standard edition? any limitation? how backend sizing would be for persistence chat as sql express would be there
4. can i suggest any better solution with standard servers where HA in DC .For 3000 users Standard Edition will be fine. Use the capacity planner to size out your environment. http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=36828
1. It won't really serve as HA, as pool pairing is the only option it's more of a DR solution. The RTO for a pool failover is 30mins. So it could take anywhere up to 30mins. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj205079.aspx
2. Same as above. Here is how you failover http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj204678.aspx
3. Yes, you can co-locate Persistent Chat on the Front End with Standard Edition. If sized correctly, there should be no performance issues.
4. The only option with Standard is Pool Pairing, so no better suggestions.
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Lync 2013 standard server for 3000
Planning to deploy Lync 2013 standard server for 3000 users, IM/presence, Audio/video, persistence chat, monitoring/archive. external access required so 1 edge server in DC and 1 in DR. No enterprise voice. DC and DR are corrected with dark fiber
one lync 2013 standard server in DC and 1 in DR. 1 edge server in DC and 1 Edge server in D R.have couple of queries.
1. can i get HA while doing server pairing in DC and DR?
2. how much time will it take for frontend failover if my frontend server is down in DC.
3. how much time will take for external access failover in DC and DR?
4. are there any potential risks if using standard version instead of enterprise?
Basically client need cost effective solution as lync is not critical for him, does not want to use 3 FE servers in DC and 3 FE in DR to achive HA. want to achieve the solution with standard servers.1) HA typically refers to automatic failover, so not with Standard edition, but you can get manual failover with this with nearly full functionality.
2) Again, this is manual, but once invoked less than 20 minutes I'd think, possibly faster, only testing invoke-failover will tell you for sure but it won't be too bad.
3) This involves a topology change to change the federation route, possibly next hop for the edge, and possibly media path for a front end pool. That can be completed and replicated in under a minute. You may want to point your external simple
URLs and such (lyncdiscover) at the remaining server, this may be a DNS change to point to a separate reverse proxy. Your _sipfederationtls._tcp SRV record can have a lower matching partner as well, but I typically prefer to keep low TTLs on the external
DNS records so they can be changed quickly.
4) Sure, no automatic failover, your scalability is limited without building out new pools later, no SQL backend that can be mirrored for a bit more resiliency. But again, you can manually failover without issue, you just have to be able to tolerate
a short outage.
Technically, you'd only need 1 FE in the DR site. You have to match Ent/Ent or Std/Std in a pool pair, but the number of servers don't need to match. Still, the HLB and SQL requirements can be costly so I understand this.
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Lync 2013 standard number of Backends required and pool paring setup?
Hi
I am in the process of putting together a lync 2013 implementation. The plan is to use lync 2013 standard as IM and Presence are the only requirement we have approx. 3000 users
we have two sites
Site A (Primary)
x 2 FE-A1 FE-A2 Lync 2013
x1 BE-A1 Lync 2013
Site B (D.R)
X 2 FE-B1 FE-B2 Lync 2013
X1 BE-B1 Lync 2013
what I want to know is
1. If Site A has two FE servers each will require there own pool if I pair FE-A1 with FE-A2 can I also pair FE-A1 with FE-B1 and the same for 2?
2. Can the servers FE-A1 and FE-A2 use the same BE server or should I be using a separate server for each?
3. In this design I was thinking of using two edge servers 1 at each site that would be published using TMG, would this be correct, this would be for IPhone mobile users to use.
thanks in advance
J1) If site A has to FE servers, and you go with Standard edition, they would be their own pools. If you wanted HA you could put three enterprise servers together into a single pool and load balance them. If you pair FE-A1 with FE-A2, those
two pools cannot be paired with any other pool. You also can't Pair FE-A1 to FE-A2, then FE-A2 to FE-B1.
2) Your diagram looks like Lync 2013 for the back end, it would actually be SQL, and this would specifically apply if you're using Lync enterprise. If the Lync front end servers are in the same pool, they can use the same backend, if they're not they
need separate back ends.
3) Edge servers would be published with a standard firewall, if TMG is your firewall that would work. If TMG is only being used as a reverse proxy, you would use it to publish your web services on your front end servers. Either way, you'll need
to also publish the web services on your front end servers to the Internet for mobile clients to function.
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Lync 2013 Standard Edition on Cisco UCS E-Series
Hello,
We have a working Lync 2013 deployment:
- Front-End Enterprise Pool consisting of 3 FE servers
- one Edge Server
- one Back-End server
- one Mediation Server
- one IP PBX gateway, where ITSP's SIP trunks end.
Because we have geographically distributed offices, we are considering deploying of branch offices deployments.
Technet recommends to use SBA for branch offices where there are less than 1000 users. But in case of WAN outage, no conferencing will be available for branch users.
Lync 2013 Standard edition branch deployment would offer all Lync features in case of WAN outage.
In every branch, we consider deploying a Cisco ISR G2 router for terminating branch SIP trunks. This equipment have option to add Cisco UCS E-Series blade that supports CPU with hardware virtualization and supports decent amount of RAM (up to 16GB and up
to 48GB).
Have anyone experience with deploying Lync Standard Edition on this equipment - Cisco UCS E-Series blades? In every branch office there are up to 50 - 500 users that will use Lync.
Thanks,
Andrei Moraru EndavaHi,
I don’t think you can deploy Lync server 2013 on Cisco UCS E-Series blades.
Here is a link below of “System Requirements for Servers Running Lync Server 2013” may help you:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg398588.aspx
Best Regards,
Eason Huang
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Lync 2013 standard deployment: Exchange 2010 Sharepoint 2010 and outlook 2007 collaboration
HI
I have Exchange 2010 and sharepoint 2010 with all our user using outlook 2007. what options do I have for collaborations between these systems if I was to install Lync 2013. I have seen posts that mention that you cannot use outlook 2007 and lync 2013 and
that you would be better off installing the lync 2010 client?
1. would we be covered from a licensing point of view if we had bought lync 2013 cals but install the lync 2010 software on desktops?
2. what Cals do we require for presence to be available in SharePoint we currently have standard sharepoint cals?
3. what new features will we loose if we install 2010 lync software.
4. if our mobile users use the 2013 lync software will these be able to communicate with the 2010 users?
thanks
JHi,
If you use Lync 2013 client with Outlook, multiple functions will not be achieved, such as: customize Outlook meeting invitations (add logo, help URL, disclaimer, footer text), in Outlook, configure meeting option to mute attendee audio and video by default,
presence status in the Microsoft Outlook To and Cc fields, and so on. As Lync 2013 is the part of Office 2013, the best choice is using Outlook 2013.
More details:
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg412817.aspx
For the CAL requirement, you can refer to following link:
Lync Licensing Guide
You can refer to the link below of “What’s new for clients in Lync Server 2013” to understand the new features for Lync 2013:
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj204933.aspx
If you use Lync 2013 mobile clients, you can communicate with 2010 users with no possible.
Best Regards,
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How to access Lync 2013 standard database?
Just trying to figure out how to access the SQL express database that gets installed during the Lync install. Is there a default SA password or group that i can put myself in? When i installed all the databases were thrown all over the different drives.
I want to clean that up.
Thanks!Three database instances are created with Standard edition Lync. Check out RTC, RTCLocal, and LyncLocal. Everything you need should be in there. Make sure you run as admin when accessing these databases if you're attempting to access
them from the Front End itself.
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Lync 2013 Standard, publishing externally via edge/TMG
Hi
I am looking into implementing lync into our environment and have been considering using lync standard in the following setup
total users will be 3000 so thinking of placing 1500 on each server at primary site A and then pairing them with the servers at site B we will only really be using this for IM and Presence. The Primary site will be where all the users are located and only
in DR will we failover to the DR site.
Site A (Primary)
1x FEA1 1xBEA1
1x FEA2 1xBEA2
1x FEedgeA1
Site B (DR)
1xFEB1 1xBEB1
1xFEB2 1xBEB2
1xFEedgeB1
my questions are this
1. If we have two servers in site A each with a separate pool because they are standard, how many external URLS will I have to have if I am connecting using a Iphone using the lync client?
2. If a server goes down in site A and we fail the users over to site B what will happen to the Iphone users how will they connect back onto lync does this require the users to enter a new URL?
3. does Lync edge server require a public IP address and should its internal address be an IP on the DMZ or the internal LAN?
4. do you need TMG/ARR/WAP to reverse proxy lync or can Lync edge do this on its own for Iphone devices wanting to use IM?
5. In the standard lync model is the backend server a role or a separate server or can it be both, above I have listed as separate servers but was not sure if this could be a role on the FE?
thanks in advance
JHello,
Please find the answers below;
Each Lync pool need to publish external web service URL. Simple URLs can be shared between pools. So you need to publish meet ; dialin , lyncdiscover and webextA1 and webextA2. I assume , your sip domain remains the same for all pools.
In a DR scenario , you will have to make external DNS changes and repoint Lyncdiscover record to site B reverse proxy server.
Yes, edge server require public IP address. Internal edge IP address should be reachable from user VLAN. So internal IP should be fine.
Reverse proxy is required for mobility connectivity.
Lync standard edition backend database will be installed on the same box.
Thanks
Saleesh
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Hi
thanks for any advice.I've just install Lync 2013 Standard as the steps in Technet,When I publish the topology,meet the error as listed.
****Creating DbSetupInstance for 'Microsoft.Rtc.Common.Data.XdsDatabase'****
Initializing DbSetupBase
Parsing parameters...
Found Parameter: SqlServer Value lync2012ek.ek2012.net\rtc.
Found Parameter: SqlFilePath Value C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Lync Server 2013\DbSetup.
Found Parameter: Publisheracct Value EK2012\RTCUniversalServerAdmins.
Found Parameter: Replicatoracct Value EK2012\RTCUniversalConfigReplicator.
Found Parameter: Consumeracct EK2012\RTCUniversalReadOnlyAdmins.
Found Parameter: Role Value master.
Trying to connect to Sql Server lync2012ek.ek2012.net\rtc. using windows authentication...
Exception Stack:
Type: System.InvalidOperationException, Message: Cannot open Service Control Manager on computer 'lync2012ek.ek2012.net'. This operation might require other privileges.
Type: System.ComponentModel.Win32Exception, Message: Access is denied.
best regards,
George
George Guoplease verify your computer name while you creating FQDN pool FQDN of Server name
example
computer name
is server1
domain name is abc.ae
so,
your FQDN pool name will be server1.abc.ae
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Crazy idea about having LYNC 2013 disaster recovery scenario
Hi guys!
We are thinking about one idea with least effort's about having lync backup solution.
We have Lync 2013 std server and Lync 2013 edge server on ESXi, so they are virtual machine.
Because lots of users are using LYNC voip the idea is to have a ready-steady backup solution in case if those virtual machines got corrupted.
The idea is to install another vmware esxi server and copy both virtual machines on this server (let's say every first week on the month).
Would be this a satisfied DR solution in case if lync 2013 std server and edge server got corrupted on primary site, we just power on new esxi server where virtual machines were copied, and turn them on manually?
bostjancYou can pool pair Lync 2013 Standard Edition, in fact it is the recommended and supported method of providing Disaster Recovery.
In Standard you can't have High Availability (multiple servers in a single pool) but you can pool pair.
Configure two separate pools and then pair them together. SHould you need to failover the RTO (recovery time objective) which is the time target for a failover is 30 minutes.
The only thing to note is that you can only pool same editions (so Ent with Ent and Std with Std)
See more here: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj204697.aspx
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Hi,
Im currently working with my client to upgrade their 2010 Lync environment to Lync 2013 with Enterprise voice.
The existing environment is very basic with a 2010 FE pool with only one server (no idea why they didn't just go for Standard ?!), in addition to this there is a single edge server providing external access and federation services.
So I have my design document pretty much their with regards to 2013 and introducing enterprise voice. Its designed for 1000 users and HA is a requirement. They only have one datacentre so DR is not an option.
My solution consists of a single FE pool with 3 enterprise edition servers, 2 Mediation servers, 2 Edge servers and a SBC to connect to the contact centre which is staying on the old phone system for now. VOIP will be provided by an external SIP provider.
We will be taking advantage of DNS load balancing for FE and Edge access and using a reverse proxy solution to load balance HTTP/HTTPS traffic. The customers DB team wish to deploy a 2 node SQL 2012 Cluster as opposed to mirroring so I am taking their lead
on that.
Ive recently been reading about pairing Lync 2013 Standard edition. Would that provide the same (or similar) resiliency to the solution I have proposed? Also for the amount of users I am talking here, do I even need to separate the mediation server role
from the front end?
One final question, can the backend SQL DB, monitoring and archiving DB be located on the same SQL server?
Thanks in advance!Hi, agree with Cro's statement regarding the consideration for collocating the mediation server role (particularly if you have an SBC with media bypass enabled for your environment).
Regarding the pool pairing HA vs DR scenario, I always quote myself answering that;
http://www.gecko-studio.co.uk/dont-play-with-fire-play-with-pool-pairing-configuring-testing/
"Pool Pairing is a disaster recovery (DR) mechanism that was introduced with Lync Server 2013. With two pools in a paired relationship, we are afforded resilience in the form of automated voice failover, and manual failover of CMS and User
Data between those two pools in the event of a pool failure. Each pool will also act as a backup registrar for the other. But lets iron something out before we go any further – Pool Pairing is not a High Availability (HA) solution, despite how
often you might read this in one format or another. By definition alone, the services that a highly available platform provide should remain completely unaffected in the event of any given component in that environment failing. End users are blissfully
unaware of any problem, and are able to perform every single action as they normally would without the need for manual administrator intervention. As we’ll discuss, Pool Pairing does require manual intervention in the event of a disaster or Front
End Pool failure, and the end users will definitely notice the outage. As such Pool Pairing falls short of the aforementioned definition, and should be classed as a DR measure rather than an HA one."
Kind regards
Ben
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Do we need License for Lync 2013 Edge server?
Hello Team,
We are currently running Lync 2013 Standard Edition Server. We are planning to enable users for External access and planning to deploly Lync 2013 edge server.
1. Do we need License for Lync 2013 Edge server?
2. Any other client licenses needed?
Please advise.Hi,
No you don't required any additional License in order to install Lync Edge server. the only license required at OS level i mean windows server licence in terms of Lync concern you don't require any additional License
check this
https://products.office.com/en-us/lync/microsoft-lync-licensing-overview-lync-for-multiple-users
http://lyncuc.blogspot.in/2013/02/lync-2013-licensing-guide-how-to.html
And for client also you don't require any additional license with your existing client license will work for externally as well
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Hello, I'm looking to add an additional SIP domain to Lync 2013 Standard. We plan to give a group of users a login with the new SIP domain and add them to an existing front end pool.
Aside from adding the SIP domain within Topology Builder, what are the other steps required (certificate, etc?). Thanks.Take a look at Shawn Kirkpatrick's blog: http://blog.lyncfreak.com/2011/10/04/adding-new-sip-domains-to-lync/
also: http://ucsip.wordpress.com/2013/03/06/lync-add-additional-sip-domains-to-an-already-deployed-environment/
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