Mac book won't go past the start up screen.
So my mac book pro will not go past the loading screen where you see the apple symbol and the rotating gear thing. is there anything i can do to fix this or restart my OS?
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2570 For the part that it says to startup by your disc and run disk utility, if you're running 10.7 or 10.8 you'll actually bootup holding down Command and R on startup. Hope this helps
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Step 8
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Step 9
If the startup device is an aftermarket SSD, it may need a firmware update and/or a forced "garbage collection." Instructions for doing this with a Crucial-branded SSD were posted here. Some of those instructions may apply to other brands of SSD, but you should check with the vendor's tech support.
Step 10
Reinstall the OS. If the Mac was upgraded from an older version of OS X, you’ll need the Apple ID and password you used to upgrade.
Step 11
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Step 12
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