Mac G3 Blue & White won,t boot anymore

Hi everyone
I havea a big problem and I hope someone can help me out.
I have a G3 Blue & White with
PCU:300 Mgz
Rams:896 MB
HDD:130 GB
I had Tiger installed on it and worked perfectly,but classic would not boot up because it would say that Mac OS 9.1 was not installed.
So I decided to copy the system folder from my OS 9.1 intall disk to my hard drive(big mistake).
Then I went on Preferences, Startup disk, and it showed the icons of Mac OS X Tiger and Classic 9.1.So I decided to put Classic as startup disk(bigger mistake)because now,my Mac won't boot.It keeps saying
"The system software on the startup disk only functions on the original media,not if copied on another disk.
Now even if I try to boot with my install disk,OS 9.1 or Panther or Tiger,it just won,t boot from the disk.There is that little window with ? in it.
Now I have a Mac that won't boot.
Please,can anyone help me out
Thank you
Mario

Mario:
I don't mind reformating my HDD and do a clean installation but I cannot boot no matter what i do.
This may be a problem, as you will need to be able to boot from both the OS 9 install disk and the Tiger install disk. If you are not able to boot it may be that you are having an issue with the optical drive. In any case, I will post some directions and we will see if you can manage to get it going. First we will do a complete low level format with the OS 9 installer, install and update OS 9 and then when that is working satisfactorily we will install and update Tiger. All of this, of course, is dependent on whether you can boot from the optical drive.
Format and Install OS 9
This process will completely erase everything on your Hard Disk Drive. Be sure to Backup your User Folder and all third party apps you can't afford to lose
• Boot from your OS 9 install CD holding down C key.
• Go to Drive Setup and reformat your drive as Mac OS Extended (HFS+)
• Reinstall OS 9
• Update to 9.2.2: Mac OS 9: Available Updates
• Update your firmware
Once this is completed, you are ready to install Tiger.
Installation Process
• With computer shut down insert install disk in optical drive.
• Hit Power button and immediately after chime hold down the "C" key.
• Select language
• Open Installer and begin installation.
• Select installation option as Archive and Install. *This is important as you do not want to overwrite OS 9, which you just installed.*
• Choose to Customize and deselect Foreign Language Translations and Additional Printer drivers.
Optional: Check box to install X11 (Tiger and later) BSD Subsystems (Panther & earlier).
• Proceed with installation.
• After installation computer will restart for setup.
• After setup, reboot computer.
• Go to Applications > Utilities > Disk Utility.
• Select your HDD (manufacturer ID) in left side bar.
• Select First Aid in main panel.
• Click Repair Disk Permissions.
• Connect to Internet.
• Download and install Mac OS X 10.4.11 Combo update (PPC) (Tiger).
• Repair Disk Permissions as previously.
• Go to Apple Menu > Software Update.
• Install all updates.
Computer may restart after updates.
• Go to Applications > Utilities > Disk Utility.
• Select your HDD (manufacturer ID) in left side bar.
• Select First Aid in main panel.
• Click Repair Disk Permissions.
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[ 240.348617] [<ffffffff81091670>] ? kthread_create_on_node+0x1c0/0x1c0
[ 240.348624] [<ffffffff81562758>] ret_from_fork+0x58/0x90
[ 240.348629] [<ffffffff81091670>] ? kthread_create_on_node+0x1c0/0x1c0
Last edited by ouroboros8 (2015-04-02 12:37:25)

Mac Pro Won't Boot Anymore

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My Mac Pro (Quad Core Intel) will not boot anymore. Sor far I've started the machine in single user mode and ran.
/sbin/fsck -fy
The file system came up clean.
Then I typed exit.
Now the machine endlessly prints out the following message.
disk0s2: 0xe00300005 (UNDEFINED).
It just prints this over and over. Any odea what to do?
Wayne

Although I usually hear otherwise, the preferred fsck for an HFS filesystem is
fsck_hfs
http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man8/fsck_hfs .8.html
A boot into the Safe mode runs the correct fsck automatically, which is why a Safe boot sometimes fixes things.
However, I suggest booting into your Leopard DVD and after the first page, you will see a menu on the top of your screen. Select Utilities and DU and run a check on HD and permissions from there. This will perform the check on an unmounted volume, the proper way to check/fix an HD.

10.2.8 on Blue&White won't let programs open-Need sophisticated help :)

I've posted about this and still continued to have trouble. If the super-initiated users out there would be willing to give me more advice, I'd be eternally grateful. I'm going to be as specific as I can to preemptively avoid confusion, as possible.
I ran a beige desktop G3 for years with OS 9.2.2. When it crashed (before I figured out how to get it back up with the help of this forum), I bought a stripped blue and white and 10.2(.8) from a local Mac store. I finally bit the bullet (my primary use is Pro Tools).
Between the beige's crash and receiving the blue and white in the mail, I was instructed how to start with apple-option-o-f restart commands and got the beige working again (with 10.2). It was fine. But since I had the blue and white with a faster processor, I was excited to get that going. So I took the hard drive (a 120 GB drive), my 320 mb of RAM (2 are clearly marked PC100, the third is marked "Hyandai" with no mark indicating of its PC100 or otherwise). But with this RAM and drive in the blue and white, the blue and white ran pretty smoothly. It was slightly glitchy though. Once in a while, a program would suddenly quit and there it was just a little buggy. But not bad. I decided rather than using the hard drive with the OS 10.2.8 installed on the beige, I would wipe the drive and install it on the blue and white to see if that solved the issue. That was the beginning of the end.
Any time I open a program, it immediately closes. The interesting thing is that if I persist, it opens a little longer and a little longer until, in the case of my internet browser, it works pretty normally. Other programs however just won't work and will not open. They act like they're opening and then they close. Sometimes the screen goes blue in between while it closes. But usually it just opens and closes leaving the desktop in its standard state.
Also, weirdly, I cannot drag anything. If I try to drag something within a folder or at all, it won't move. I tried to drag something out of the trash (that I hadn't put in the trash) and it wouldn't come out.
It's been suggested to me that this is all an issue of RAM. The reason I question that is that the computer ran basically very smoothly prior to me reinstalling the OS. I've tried wiping and reinstalling again with no improved results.
I'd really like to be able to use the blue and white and not have to reinstall everything in the beige. And I am looking into getting more RAM. But I'm a poor musician and since this very same computer just as it is ran pretty well before, it's hard to believe that's the issue.
So, again, the primary issues are that programs close as soon as you open, except with a few programs that if you keep trying to open them eventually stay open after repeated attempts (per startup). And the fact that nothing is draggable. If I could solve these problems, I'd be a very happy songwriter.
Any help you can offer is supremely appreciated.
And no- - I'm not going to upgrade my OS again right now- - can't afford it and I'm already regretting this upgrade a great deal. Would just like to get this one working if possible.
Also, I cannot get OS 9 running. At all. I have tried. If OS 10.x.x is present, no matter what the startup disk is, OS 10.x.x starts. And if I take OS 10.x.x off completely and leave only the OS 9 system folder, the computer won't boot. It's like OS X has ruined my computers.
Please help if you can. Thanks.

When you installed the drive(s) inside the B&W G3, what sort of disk carrier did you find inside the computer? Are the drives to be mounted next to each other or is there a "U" shaped bracket where one drive would be mounted above the other?
There is a machine specific issue with the B&Ws where the drives are to be mounted next to each other. This was the layout in the Rev 1 machines. There is a known corruption problem with just about any other hard drive except the one that originally came with the computer for the Rev 1 B&Ws. You can read more about the compatibility on <http://xlr8yourmac.com>. With these Rev 1 machines, the only real solution is to install a third party drive controller in a PCI slot.
Mac Mini; B&W G3/300

Treo 800w won't boot anymore

For the last few weeks my treo 800w has been having random problems with shutting off and then not wanting to boot or requiring a hard reset to boot again. It now won't boot even doing the hard reset procedure. Also the led doesn't come on when it is plugged in anymore. It comes up to a blue screen with small white boxes in the upper left when it comes on after trying the hard boot. Any ideas what went wrong with it ?
Post relates to: Treo 800w (Sprint)

I would bring it in to your local Sprint store to see if they can fix it or replace it under your insurance plan.
Alan G

G3 Blue/White won't start up with an Icon error on screen

I just booted up my G3 Blue White for the first time since 2 years ago after I brought PB to use. However, since booted up. I can hear the chime noise and then Apple Icon (Dark Grey Apple with light Grey in the background) for a couple of sec before an error Icon on the screen showing as a circle with a single strike (diag) in the circle (same colour as Apple Icon and background) and won't go any further to run. Either batteries is flat or what ever the error is. What should I do.. Leave my mac running until batteries is fully charge but then. What about bios as this will be gone too. Is there a way to recover it?
Help help help. I would like this G3 to act as server.

B&W G3 has non-chargeable 3.6V Lithium battery. A good tutorial concerning batteries is found HERE. Have you zapped PRAM?
The icon you see could also indicate a kernel panic. Have you got your original OS X installation disc?

Mac G3 Blue & White won,t boot anymore

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