Mac in an all PC environment (revisited) MrHoffman two questions

Last year, I was in a HUGE battle with our IT people about using my Mac on an all PC network.
The discussion is here: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1872433&tstart=0
MrHoffman and many others made some very interesting points, but the bottom line was...I could not use my Mac.
Over the summer, IT got around a million bucks of bond money to rework our old and outdated systems.
We now have a wireless system connected throughout the entire district.
After it was put into service a few weeks ago, many teachers (NOT ME) received a NEW 17" Dell laptop computer to use with the new service.
To log onto the wireless service, all you need is the username and password you use with your "Wired" desktop to log onto the wireless system.
YES, I could not help it, with my built in wireless card in my Mac, I tried to log on. IT WORKED!
Well, for a short time. When using OS X 10.4.11 I get an airport error.
Under OS X 10.5.8 I get a message "Unknown certificate" I push OK and boom I am on the web again after almost a year.
But I really need to be in OS 10.4 because I still use many "Classic" programs.
Why is it that I can log on with OS 10.5 but not OS 10.4?
Next question.....
I asked the IT people if it was OK for me to log on. The Technology Director, Network Engineer
and Network Manager did not respond, even after several e-mails they simply ignore me.
However the IT person on campus informed me that just about everyone is able to log onto the system using their username and password. EVEN THE KIDS are logging on with iPhones.
She said "The kids are using it , so I guess it is OK for you to. So far there have been no security breaches.".
Should I take this as a yes, or should I send another e-mail to the head of IT for the district?
Would there be some reason why they continue to ignore me?
Any advice is GREAT!!!! Obviously, my IT department does not wish to acknowledge that I exist. I suspect that it is because the new system and firewall is safe. Why else would kids be logging on with cell phones.

I don't see any new details or new changes here that might alter [my position and comments|http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1872433] from last year.
Yes, there's newer WiFi equipment. And a WiFi I'd connect onto only with permission, and then only with a firewall raised and tunneling. (The permission because you're on staff and because you've had previous discussions with IT about network access and were denied, and the use of a firewall and tunnel because this WiFi is wicked untrusted; if the kids are freely connecting their own systems and their own WiFi phones, they're almost certainly also connecting port mapping and network sniffers, too. This is a wicked hostile WiFi environment.)
Regardless of the WiFi and the rest of the technologies here, this is (still) something you're going to have to sort out with IT and with the local administration, and with yourself and with your own tolerance for risk and your own personal and career goals.
As foilpan comments, this clearly isn't about Mac OS X Server. It isn't really about technology at all.

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