Mac Mini Intel Duo or Imac g5

I have an imac g5 with that lovely logic board problem and a fan that is on 24/7 that sounds like a rocket. It has 1.5 gig of ram in it right now. I am thinking of getting rid of the imac and purchasing an intel mac mini duo with about 1 gig of ram. Would the mini stand up to my imac g5 as far as speed and using programs? I will only use photoshop cs 2 (which i know runs under rosetta)so I know it might be slower in that program.. how much slower are we talking about? Does it take a couple minutes to finish a task? I'm just doing web graphics so nothing major like 3d or anything like that. I am thinking of purchasing a 20" display as well. Any thoughts on if I should wait until the mini gets a speed bump or just keep what I have?
iMac G5 Mac OS X (10.4.3) 1.5 gig RAM

I did the same, switched from a iMac G5 20" 1.8 GHz and 1.2 GB RAM to a Mac mini Core Duo 1.66 with 2 Gig RAM witch a 23" CD.
For me the Mac mini is quite faster then the iMac. Universal Binary Programms are as fast or faster as on the iMac. I only have a small amount of not so much used PowerPC Programms which are not available as Universal Binaries today (one of the is Photoshop Elements 4 and Office 2004). Office runs very well for me. Photoshop is slower as on the iMac. I do not make difficult stuff in Photoshop so Performance is for me still ok, but if you work the whole day with it I would wait for a UB Version.
Something which I will change soon is the 5400rpm Harddisk, when doing a lot of Disk I/O (copying Files, backup etc.) it's slower than in the iMac. I probably will change it to a faster 7200rpm HD.
Overall I'm impressed from the Mac mini and the change was a success because I have one Windows Programm which I need daily and that was a pain in Virtual PC. Now with Parallels Desktop it works like a charm.
Regards,
Stefan
Mac mini Core Duo 1.66GHz 2 GB RAM/80GB HD/SD Mac OS X (10.4.6) Apple 23" Cinema HD Display; iPod mini 2GB; iPod Shuffle 1GB; Airport Express
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If you break something you will void your warranty for that part and anything directly affected by the damage caused to that part (or if you live somewhere w/o halfway decent consumer remedies you might just void the whole thing by thinking about opening it so check you local rights regarding this matter). If you've seen repair sheets from Apple you know how much components cost so don't break anything or be prepared to live w/ it.
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Hi all,
I'm thinking of changing my Apple Computer from a 20" iMac G5 1.8 GHz 1.2 GB RAM to a Mac mini Core Duo 1.66 GHz with 2 GB of RAM with a Apple 23" Cinema Display.
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Looking at your list *I think* you should be, for the most part, better off. You list a large amount of Apple applications what are all Universal binaries. Windows will work under Boot Camp or Parallels. Microsoft Office 2004, from all reports, works extremely well even though it's not Universal. The rest being utilities don't really matter much.
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Hello,
Only the Permissions keep getting messed up,
You can ignore repeated Permission fixes if the last line says completed in it.
See if the Disk is issuing any S.M.A.R.T errors in Disk Utility...
http://support.apple.com/kb/PH7029
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PS. Safe boot may stay on the gray radian for a long time, let it go, it's trying to repair the Hard Drive
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