Mac Mini Server Benchmarks? Performance? vs. HP MediaSmart Server

Has anyone compiled the performance or speed of the Mac Mini Snow Leopard Server?? The one thing that worries me is the 5400 RPM hard drives in the server.
I'd like to know what the throughput is for this device and using it as central storage.
I'm coming from an HP MediaSmart Server and I am happy with it's speed but it's feature set doesn't match what I'd like from Snow Leopard Server.

The one thing that worries me is the 5400 RPM hard drives in the server.
Whether or not that might be a problem would depend on exactly what you intend to use it for and what kind of load you expect in terms of users.
I ordered a Mac mini server to evaluate as a potential replacement for our expensive leased servers. It appears to be a server in a box that's ready to configure and run. For individuals and small businesses who need a cost-effective general purpose server, it looks like a pretty good deal, at least based on the specs. Once I actually have my hands on one I'll know for certain.

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  • Mac Mini OSX 10.6.5 config w/ cable/modem-AEBS-mac mini server

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