Mac Pro [2006] startup failure

I have a Mac Pro 2.0 Ghz system which will not power up correctly. I have browsed various topics here and searched using google in the hope of finding an answer. Some of this has been helpful and I am now at the stage of replacing either the logic board or the power supply using spare parts from another chassis. Unfortunately the status of these parts is also unknown. I don't want to swap parts from my one working system and risk ending up with three dead machines!
Anyway I have tried the SMC reset procedures, reset the RTC and replaced the battery, changed RAM riser cards and so forth to no avail. The situation still is that the machine responds to power button presses with a slight "click", the front-panel LED glows steadilly and the fans run but accelerate to very high speed over a minute or so after applying power.
The onboard diagnostic LEDs are all extinguished and pressing the diagnostics switch results in only LED1 [trickle power] lighting up. No LED's are illuminated on the RAM risers or graphics card.
There is no system chime.
Keyboard appears dead but the mouse will light up if plugged into a USB port on the chassis instead of one of the ports on the keyboard.
My spare logic board has no CPUs installed and so it will be a major job to do the changeover.
Questions then are:
Is there enough info here to say positively whether it is a PSU or a logic board problem?
Are there other possibilities? Thermal sensors? GPU? Cabling faults?
Is there any way to test a logic board or PSU in isolation from a complete system? Can the logic board be tested without CPUs installed?
Any help would be appreciated.

We have a 2.66 MacPro 1,1 still running fine at present, the original graphics card was replaced by Apple as part of a known issue. This was over 4 years ago, close to the end of the cutoff period for the known issue IIRC.
I'd suggest you contact Apple & see if you can sweet talk them into doing something about the graphics card, even if it's just arranging a better price on a replacement. I recollect at the time of the exchange Apple was switching cards based on the installed OS. Having 10.6 installed meant we got a NVIDIA 8800GT, earlier OS's meant other cards were offered instead. I think it came with a NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT (but I could be wrong - ask me to dig out details if you want to know for sure).
P.S.
Assuming the disk doesn't contain your user data, shutdown & remove your second HD to see if it runs any better, I find that the OS will wait for what feels like a lifetime when requesting data from a disk that has gone to sleep. SSD's change your perception, booting from one will freshen up the Mac, but won't fix the no graphics at boot issue, sorry.

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FBDIMMs
They age, stress, heat fatigue.
You just need to use RMA and warranty once you know which pairs.
And you should be seeing errors or wrong amount or something in Memory tab in System Profile.
Apple Hardware Test will spot parity error DIMMs and some hardware issues with RAM or Risers
Rember can try to look for errors but harder with ECC.
Don't. You can end up with corrujpt files, corrupt system, corrupt directory.
All of which takes more time to find and correct.
And you may need to do a clean install and go from there.
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How I connect a 27 " Mini DisplayPort Display to a Mac Pro 2006?

Dear All,
I need to know if I can connect a 27" Mini DisplayPort Display to Mac Pro 2006
Thanks a lot in advance
Subalv

You can certainly do that, the Apple Online store sells it for US$150.
http://store.apple.com/us/product/H3938LL/A?fnode=MTY1NDA5OQ&s=topSellers
I have not tested it. It is certainly good to know it exists. I hate paying the premium for "leading edge" equipment, so I am writing from my 2009 Mac Pro with used Apple 30 inch Cimena display.
If I were to pay what that new display costs, I would buy a new display card to drive it directly. My recommendation is to upgrade your diplay card for US$100 more (than the cost of the adapter) and get a card capable of Dual-Link DVI AND two Mini Displayports.

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Carmen,
Since the Wireless card was optional back then, you may not have gotten it in your original config?
You can verify if the hardware is installed several places, as Bob mentioned, do you have the option to enable wireless under your System Prefs \ Network (I would imagine not, since your asking). However, while very unlikely, it may be installed but your not able to see/select it for some reason?
So, just to make sure, you can also verify via looking under "System Information" (you'll want some info from there anyway).
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If you don't have the option nor see a card was installed you can go about this a few ways.
1. The absolute easiest route (to NOT have to deal with 3rd party drivers or possible 3rd party issues when you upgrade your OS etc) is check out places like Macsales and see if they have any of the original Air Port extreme cards available and install yourself. - http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Apple/BCM94322MC/
2. You could talk with Macsales and ask which external USB wireless card works best with your rig (least fussy) and go that route. While several brands work just fine, you just never know when something changes in an update and then your faced with the old pointing fingers thing. Rare, but still....
Also, while your in the System Information area you'll want to note your model, if it's 2006, I think that's Mac Pro 1,1 ?
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My stock Mac Pro 2006 just started showing the Kernel Panic screen at start-up. First saw the Kernel Panic this afternoon after leaving the system for less than an hour with a game running (EV Nova in a Pause screen). A reboot brought the system back up for a while, I was running Safari for maybe 10-15 minutes when the Kernel Panic screen showed up again.
Tried the three stock Apple-recommended reboot options, reboot with X key down, reboot with Opt key down and PRAM reset and reboot. No luck; the Panic Kernel screen came on after each one. Also tried the original OS X 10.4 install disk during and Opt key reboot; same Kernel Panic.
And 10.5 and 10.6 universal upgrade disks; the 10.6 disk got to the grey screen with the Apple logo and the spinning activity symbol which stopped after a while, the Apple logo went away and no further screen activity; the 10.5 disk actually got to a light blue screen with a cursor, but no other icons, the cursor did change to a text I-bar at certain areas in the center of the screen and the disk drive would spin up after some mouse or keyboard activity, no screen activity and no further progress.
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Suggestions? Thanks in advance.
Dave

Update: I have switched out every RAM module (4 X 512 MB) in turn and switched the two riser cards in every combination of one pair of RAM in the top riser card. After each reboot, the kernel panic screen comes back. Could one bad riser card, even if unpopulated and on the bottom cause the kernel panic? Any way to test my system more without swapping parts other than the RAM in and out?

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You're welcome
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I have a Mac Pro 2006 with the original hard drives in it and I'm looking to speed it up. I see SSDs are now a lot more affordable so I gotta take advantage.
I use my computer for making music and recording but I do hip hop music, not live music or bands so I don't have to record a lot of tracks at once I just want to speed things up. Plus help my software move a little faster when I make beats.
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I read that there are better/faster SSDs out there but can my old 2006 Mac Pro even make use of better/faster drives speed? Are any of the 3 I've picked reliable enough to feel comfortable purchasing?
I still don't understand what TRIM is exactly, can someone help me with that? I'm gonna go look it up now but just wondered about that specifically with these 3 drives...
I'm also going with a Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB drive for the data... Is that overkill for my 2006 machine? Will I even notice a difference in speed with this Caviar Black as opposed to maybe the Blue or Green drive?
I appreciate the time guys! Thanks so much I'm excited to get my Mac Pro moving like my MacBook Pro with its 300gb SSD

An SSD is probably the best bang-4-buck improvement in performance, and today's are far better than 4 years ago (and avoid all the pitfalls of the early SATA III models).
The larger the SSD, the more "pipes" or channels, and you want to aim for 50% free, you need TRIM to be enabled, and yes you will notice.
Then you want to clone the SSD and have a system restore image that you can boot from and to run Disk Utility repair so that "trimming' is performed.
Sometimes you want to research when you buy one and get it delivered and check to see if there are firmware update for it for your Mac.
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Howdy Le Batch,
I was looking into the issue you are seeing here, and came across a helpful article for this specific situation. It's named Apple computers: Troubleshooting issues with video on internal or external displays and can be found here:
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Hi,
I have a Mac Pro 2006 and it's ben broken for a little while now. I tried all I could to fix it, reset everything, pressed all reset buttons on Logic Board, changed GPU. But the problem remains. When I start it the mac chimes, as usual and starts up in Target Disk Mode if I hold T (as it's obviously supposed to). The video shows you what happens when I start it up in regards to diagnostic LEDs.
http://youtu.be/jCMPG7Be9WE
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Make sure your Ram is paired correctly when you install it --
And the long boot time is due to the previous reply. If you don't set a 'boot drive' the mac pro will look everywhere before selecting the OSX installation.
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