Mac Pro 2013 Slow UI Animations

I have just got a new Mac Pro, its a six core model with d300's and 64GB of RAM. My problem is that i am having real slowdown when using mission control and when sliding between spaces using the mouse. I am running 2 4K displays with "retina" mode on scaling them to 2650x1440... Though i have tested with scaling off and i still have the problem albeit slightly better than with it on...
I am beyond disappointed with this and i am really considering sending it back, is this normal or could there be something wrong with my model? My 2011 iMac handles this better even at 30 hertz its much smoother. When i use only 1 screen the animations become smooth again.. Even after a reinstall of Yosemite i still have the issues..
Is this normal? Should i send it back?

Yeah was like this from day one (Yesterday ) and i didn't upgrade from an older OS it came with Yosemite pre installed. I have since reinstalled Yosemite without any change. I have also found a way to turn off "HighDPI" by holding alt to select scaled in display preferences and choosing a low resolution option. This has returned animations to super smooth! This is heartbreaking after buying 3 4K monitors and a nearly 4 grand computer
Here is my output from EtreCheck. I know there are lots of devices plugged in but last night when checked i was doing it with a clean 2 displays \(one via HDMI and one via TB). As i run this check i am not having the issue (explained how above) but i am desperate to use the 4K displays with High DPI.
Problem description:
Mission control and space switching animations slow when using scaled desktop mode with HiDPI.
EtreCheck version: 2.0.11 (98)
Report generated 14 November 2014 13:20:16 GMT
Hardware Information: ℹ️
Mac Pro (Late 2013) (Verified)
Mac Pro - model: MacPro6,1
1 3.5 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon E5 CPU: 6-core
32 GB RAM Upgradeable
DIMM1
8 GB DDR3 ECC 1866 MHz ok
DIMM2
8 GB DDR3 ECC 1866 MHz ok
DIMM3
8 GB DDR3 ECC 1866 MHz ok
DIMM4
8 GB DDR3 ECC 1866 MHz ok
Bluetooth: Good - Handoff/Airdrop2 supported
Wireless: en2: 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac
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Encrypted AES-XTS Unlocked
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Western Digital Elements 107C 4 TB
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Encrypted AES-XTS Unlocked
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VIA Labs, Inc. USB2.0 Hub
VIA Labs, Inc. USB2.0 Hub
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Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus_2
Apple Inc. Macintosh
Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus_1
Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus_0
Kanex Thunderbolt to Gigabit Ethernet+USB3.0 Adapter
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Mac App Store and identified developers
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Grant Bennet-Alder wrote:
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Here is a screen shot of Mac Book Pro running PS CC Smart Sharpen:
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I was interested in your comment regarding 64 Meg ram. Yes that would be a hudge boost to PS performance, but would it be better to purchase from Apple or wait for OWC who offer RAM at major discounts over Apple. Once again, no info yet that I am aware of.
I believe the flash drive is upgradable but rumor has it that it uses a proprietary connecter. Makes me want to go with the largest size but once again OWC might be the way to go for an upgrade in a year or two.
In the past, the 6 core 2012 Mac Pro's were somewhat of a sweat spot in terms of horsepower vs cost. I will be considering that in my decession to upgrade. So I am considering a 6 core, will check out the Ram and Flash diIsk based on price - which is the infor I don't have. If you have anything please post
Thanks

Mac Pro 2013 Using Too Much RAM

I have a 6-core Mac Pro (2013) with 64GB of RAM. I have this feeling that the computer, and some assortment of processes, is sucking up a lot more of the RAM than they need to. As a point of reference, I use the vast majority of the RAM for audio production.
My concern is that, when I turn my computer on, it is already using 10 GBs of RAM right off the bat. One particular process, kernel_task, likes to use anywhere from 2-10 GBs. I can't imagine there is any reason for the Mac and all of its other processes to ever exceed even 4 GBs of RAM, let alone the upwards 20-30 that it will eventually consume. I say this because I migrated all of the data and processes form my 2010 Macbook Pro, which only has 8GB. Upon start-up, it is never using more than 2-4 GBs of RAM. I would assume, then, that my Mac Pro can get by using little more 4GBs (preserving the other 60GB for my much more resource-intensive music work). Both the MBP and Mac Pro have Mavericks 10.9.
Is there a way to cap the amount of RAM the computer, and any other process, uses, so I can preserve the majority of it for the tasks I know need it most?

Have you seen www.macperformanceguide.com ? focus is more on graphics and photography and where 128GB is shown to help.
The old method, to conserve and not use memory, went away years ago so as not to let a valuable resource sit idle and not being used.
Even if you don't have pageouts the system dynamically will use more if and when there is more memory present.
The numbers you report are not unusual. 1-2GB in today's world is like 50MB might have been 20 years ago - people were moaning over the fact that OS 7 was a memory hog as it now needed 40-50MB just to launch the Finder.

Mac Pro 2013 and Premiere Pro - The performance issue that Adobe don't want us talking about!

In May 2014 I bought a 2013 Mac Pro to help my business with the ever increasing demands video editing was placing on our systems. I was so excited to see how the 12GB of power the AMD D700s would affect my workflow and ability to edit footage seamlessly without delays to the creative process.
However, to my dismay pretty much since starting to work with the system I found that there was an issue with the GPUs, Mac OS and Adobe’s applications. It was first reported by many other users in early 2014 and as yet know one from Adobe has really commented officially on the issue.
Sadly it appears to still be present today and speaking with an Adobe rep confirmed this. Trouble is no one is doing anything about it. My hope is that, if you have watched this video and are experiencing the same issues then please let’s get the comments going, share and like the video and let’s get Adobe, Apple and AMD to pick up this with immediate haste! Thank you.
Below is a video of the problem I have been experiencing. It's a little long but I wanted to give a good account of the problem we are seeing so that someone can help! PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE help!
Mac Pro 2013 and Premiere Pro GPU Issue - YouTube
Thank you for your time and I'd love someone to help!

Thanks for responding! It's such a pain and I have been chatting to one of Adobe's senior consultants about this and still none the wiser. I have sent my machine off to the retailer as it was still under warranty. Nothing wrong with GPU apparently which is a relief although I kinda wish it had been that as it would have been an easier fix. Adobe told me that working with H.264 is totally possible but if you have a complex sequence with multicam and nested video with effects applied then it will seriously hinder performance. Sadly transcoding to ProRes doesn't seem to help either and they suggested not adding any effects to the nested clips, flattening out the multi cams etc and this has improved things a bit. Sent a sequence to SpeedGrade the other day though and the machine had a fit. FCPX though seems to be working great and has a few advantages over Premiere so I may be making a switch for this type of work until Adobe can sort out this issue. I still feel that the application isn't fully making the most of the GPUs. In fact, I found out that multicam is actually all still on the CPU and that they are trying to implement GPU handling of multicam soon.

Mac Pro 2013 crash when attempting to drag object

IIllustrator CC (17.1) and Illustrator CC 2014 both crash if I try to drag any object on new Mac Pro (2013 model, running Mavericks). Anybody else run into this? Works fine on my MacBook Pro 13.

Hi Mark,
Have you submitted the crash log to Adobe via the crash reporter along with your email ID ? If not then can you please share the crash logs with me at [email protected]
To get the crash log please open the "Console" application and under the label "DIAGNOSTIC AND USAGE INFORMATION" expand the layer/label "User Diagnostic Reports" and open the latest AdobeIllustrator.............crash file.
If possible can you please join the connect room: Adobe Connect Login
With Best Regards,
Raghuveer Singh

Bootcamp is different on two identical Mac Pro 2013 towers, Windows 7 vs 8

OK, so we bought two identical Mac Pro 2013 towers, took them out of the box and updated the system, and checked to see if could use Bootcamp. Hopefully to install Windows 7, but, failing that, Windows 8. We got two different results:
One of the machines says only Windows 8 can be installed, but the other has a dialog about Windows 7.
The only difference here is that I messed around with the partitions on the second one. I may have jumped the gun and called one partition "BOOTCAMP" before being advised not to do so and attempting to get rid of that partition. My partition attempts have led to that system dialog...
What's the reason these two are different? IS it possible to install Windows 7?

According to Boot Camp: System requirements for Microsoft Windows operating systems - Apple Support
Mac model
Windows 8
64-bit
Windows 7
64-bit
Windows 7
32-bit
Windows Vista
64-bit
Windows Vista
32-bit
Windows XP
32-bit
iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2014)
BCA
BCA
iMac (21.5-inch, Mid 2014)
BCA
BCA
iMac (27-inch, Late 2013)
5
5
iMac (21.5-inch, Late 2013)
5
5
W7 64-bit is supported, but W7 32-bit is not. Are you certain your W7 media is correct and complete? If the media has both 32-bit and 64-bit on it, it will be rejected.

Mac pro too slow to use, spinning ball, no finder response, only hard power off, installing system stalls at 18 minutes left.

mac pro too slow to use, spinning ball, no finder response, only hard power off, installing system stalls at 18 minutes left.
It is taking an hour to power up and mac apple logo appear onscreen. No finder controls or "clicks" are being recognized. Spinning beachball all the time.
Using hard power off and holding the mouse down, I was able to open the optical drive and then restart with "c" and ask the dvd to reinstall the system, but it has stalled before finishing the installation.
This happened about 4 days ago, first it started responding slowly, and then it just keeps spinning the beachball. I can't find hardware test. I did run etrecheck, it did not have any error messages, but I can't copy or move the data anywhere.... I am not able to access the mac pro with another machine, and now I am stuck in install freeze, so I can't copy etrecheck by hand onto a piece of paper.
Without being able to finish a reinstall, what can I try?
After it got bad, and before it got REALLY bad, I managed to repair permissions, but it took a long time. Most of a day. When I restarted from that, things were only worse.
Mac Pro 1,1 , 11 GB ram, 7300, 5TB hard drives, OS 10.6.8, the drive containing the system folder is/was 700 used, 290 free. While I could get commands to respond, I put Activity monitor on the desktop and watched it. System memory was 3.31 GB used, about 7 free, and some wired. No app was using a huge amount.
what should I try next? I put a bid on a new/old machine so that I could move the 4 hard drives over.

Thank you for all your suggestions. Please correct me as I articulate this.
I have three versions( 5, 6, CC) of the Adobe Master Collection which I keep active for different clients. I have final cut and motion. I have Office 365. I have a collection of graphic apps that are individually not too big but in all, my app folder is 65GB and my bootcamp partition is 61GB. I can't fit all this on 120 ssd and a 256 will be full once I install, correct? drives should be half open?
Somehow I did not make it clear enough that I was trying to copy onto a 2TB drive I had just initiallized in order to try and save files from my startup drive. I don't use time machine. I take a day or a few days worth of documents and physically move them to another drive at night. If a series is finished I make two dvd's as well. The second black drive that was failing was the drive I moved my backup documents onto. At no point was I trying to backup onto the failing drives. I was trying to copy off both of them onto the other two drives, a third aux backup that has been there for a while, and a newish 2 TB which I designated as the startup drive when all this trouble started.
I wondered if there were any good techniques for trying to get the data off the failing drive. Thanks for the suggestion of Data Rescue 3. I don't have it yet, but I will try it as soon as I get it. I was never trying to repair in place.
I am very interested in getting a pci bracket and an ssd, but I may wait until I can afford the larger one. If I get an older bracket that is compatible with my old mac pro 1,1 , I'd like to be able to move it to a mac pro 3,1 if I get one. Will the larger ssd drives be compatible with the sata in a pci bracket that can work in my mac pro 1,1 ? sata 2 versus something else? If 240 or 256 is my size limit, how much more than my 65 and 61 GB partitions can I put on there? How much of a scratch disc can I make if I leave another 39 GB of headroom on my bootcamp partition? I'm filling 165 GB without making any allowance for temp files.
You have said that 120 is enough for any system. I think I must be misunderstanding something. Are you saying that assuming that most people run office and photoshop and maybe lightroom?
I have and use 4 HDD in this machine, mostly for document storage in two places.
I took out all but the group of 2GB ram chips I bought a year and a half ago. The old ram had passed the hardware test the last time I had access to the hardware test. Two black drives failed, one was a year old and one was a year and a half old, and that it may have been exacerbated by the heat wave. I don't know why the video and the monitor were affected save that the startup drive was failing. I am trying to replace the card.
With all this said, I am also looking at a used mac pro 3,1 with a better video card since a newer machine will likley be compatible through another OS upgrade. If a machine costs only a little more than a new card, it might be a better way to go.
I don't have any sources that offer an ssd for 100. ( of a size that is useful)
How large is your application folder?

CUDA NVIDIA video card to Mac Pro 2013

Is there any way to get the Mac Pro 2013 to run a CUDA enabled NVIDIA video card?

This graphic from ifixit.com shows the two special cards, still with heatsink paste in place, just after removal. The silver diamond surrounds the big graphics chip, just inside the RAMs on the card. Those RAMs contact heatsink pads on the central cooler. The whole business is secured with four screws beyond the RAMs, roughly centered on the sides of the diamond. So the Big GPU chip and the RAMs are pressed with heatsink paste and heatsink pads, respectively, against the central cooler. This is in lieu of allowance for a separate fan (which in many "standard" cards is what takes up the space of the second slot.
Power appears to be supplied by lugs in the outer corners of each card, so the cards are deliberately not interchangeable. One has connections that feed to the graphics outputs, the other has connections for the PCIe SSD socket.
The text says those connectors resemble the CPU daughter card connectors used in the late G4 and G5s.
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Mac+Pro+Late+2013+Teardown/20778

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