Mac Pro 8 core Nehalem RAM upgrade

Hi All,
I own a 8 core 2.26 mac pro. Its Ram configuration is the most basic, 6G.
I am looking to do some upgrade, and would love some pointers to do so. I work mainly with music, and I have been getting out of memory message from Logic Pro so I assume I need more RAM.
The default configuration is 6 X 1G RAM, so that means i have 2 more RAM slots left. As I understand, its best to assigne a RAM to each core for the best performance, so should I:
1. Buy 2 more 1G Ram and put them in the slots and have 8G?
2. But 2 x 2G Ram have a total RAM of 10G, would this work? Would this case any inbalance in RAM, because assuming if I have to assigne a RAM to each CPU, that would mean, 1G for 6 and 2G for remaining 2?
3. Ripe all 6G out and get 2G for 8 slots, meaning a total of 16G?

Memory isn't 'assigned' to anything.
I'd rebate to OWC and pick up 6 x 4GB probably.
Mac Pro Memory 1066
The other, to see what upgrading to 8-core 2.93GHz or above in some manner.

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is this a significant hit in performace over Unbuffered DIMMs?
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http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Western%20Digital/WD6400AAKS/
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If you buy only one book to understand and get the most out of OS X: "Mac OS X: The Missing Manual" (Pogue has a Missing Manual Series on most everything, and this is the most popular recommended for Mac OS).
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